If a new college/university grad has 4 years of REAL working experience accumulated while in college....

[wasserkool]

Lets say a college grad worked very hard during his college years and accumulated 4 years of working experience while studying and graduated, will he get a higher salary than his peers due to his extensive experience?

And his job is with well known companies in the industry and world wide
And his work experience is in companies like AMD, IBM, Hewelett Packard and Intel in various business roles like marketing, sales and finance.

Will the hard work and perservation pay off after graduation?

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Yes, it should, why wouldn't it?

 

[scarfase99]

the answer to this, is about as accurate as does a person with a 4-year degree from a tougher university get a better paying job than someone from a JC or lesser college.

while you'd like to say yes, of course. i know plenty of people that didn't work a dime in college that are making way more than me, who worked 2 jobs throughout.

 

[wasserkool]

Originally posted by: scarfase99
the answer to this, is about as accurate as does a person with a 4-year degree from a tougher university get a better paying job than someone from a JC or lesser college.

i don't get that..mind explaining??

 

[cchen]

depends on the job after graduation

 

[Hyudra]

I don't think previous experience will matter. I think it's luck. If you think about it, even the lowest GPA student next to you could become the CEO of the next big company.

 

[rezinn]

If you had a job with IBM or Intel, etc during college and you were graduating, you would know the answer because if you were worth a crap they would have offered you a job already. From what I have seen yes it helps and sometimes you wont get a job without it.

 

[The Stigenator]

well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Maybe not a higher salary, but it will most definitely give him a major edge in competing for the kinds of jobs that are more likely to lead to better paying positions down the road.

 

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

Maybe that's how they recruit at the schools, but the vast majority of employers away from that environment could give a damn about GPA. I've never been asked my GPA, ever, when applying for a job.

 

[SuperFreaky]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

Only for your 1st job out of college does GPA matter. After that, GPA does become just for kicks.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

it will help, but unless you have been working full-time, you will probably get pulled in as entry-level and start off in roughly the same pay scale anyways.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
it will help, but unless you have been working full-time, you will probably get pulled in as entry-level and start off in roughly the same pay scale anyways.

:thumbsup:

 

[Jzero]

In my experience, it was worth more IF I was seeking jobs at the places I had worked (which is what I ended up doing), but "new" employers seemed to view my resume as "Here's a guy who has lots of experience, but we can pay him less! You're hired!"

 

[purbeast0]

obviously yes, you will.

i mean, any job that is entry level and only requires a college degree will pay less than a job that requires 4+ years experience plus a degree. its just common sense.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

for the more exclusive jobs, they won't even look at you if you have a 3.0. you need to do MUCH better than that.

still, if you're applying to a company that you've worked at before and have shown the determination needed, you may get precedence. if you're a new face to them, however, it will be harder.

as for the OP's question directly: more work experience is ALWAYS a plus. showing that you can juggle a full-time college courseload plus a full-time job is pretty impressive. even having that part-time work experience can help, provided that you gained the skills necessary for the new job.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: wasserkool

Originally posted by: scarfase99
the answer to this, is about as accurate as does a person with a 4-year degree from a tougher university get a better paying job than someone from a JC or lesser college.

i don't get that..mind explaining??

he means that if you went to an ivy league school, your chances for a good job are much better than if you went to community college. in fact, any 4 year college degree is viewed upon more highly than a 2-year college degree.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: SuperFreaky

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

Only for your 1st job out of college does GPA matter. After that, GPA does become just for kicks.

Yep... couldn't agree more. However, the OP is asking about work after college so it is very much relevant.

 

[wasssup]

Yeah, everyone asks me for my GPA...mine is a 2.93 and since it's not a 3.0 most won't even look at me

that's what i get for screwing around in engineering before switching to CS

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: tami

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
well i dont know, i got work experience from the past, but nothing right now, i am going to try get an internship for the next 2 sems so i will have some field related experience. as long as you got field related experience you should be good to go.. GPA is just for kicks. anythign about 2.0 is okay..

Wow.. biggest SHENS on this thread ever.

About 5-6 companies are coming to my campus for interviews and they won't even accept your application if you have a GPA less than 3.0 (in some cases its 3.2)

Anything about 3.0 is okay.

for the more exclusive jobs, they won't even look at you if you have a 3.0. you need to do MUCH better than that.

still, if you're applying to a company that you've worked at before and have shown the determination needed, you may get precedence. if you're a new face to them, however, it will be harder.

as for the OP's question directly: more work experience is ALWAYS a plus. showing that you can juggle a full-time college courseload plus a full-time job is pretty impressive. even having that part-time work experience can help, provided that you gained the skills necessary for the new job.

Even with the investment banking job listings from recruiters (as lucrative as it gets for undergrads), the highest I've ever seen a GPA requirement be is 3.2. Most don't even disclose a "required" GPA and during interviews with recruiters (in IB) a lot say that GPA is a relatively unimportant factor.

Andrea Baum of Goldman Sachs (the ultimate IB firm) states there's no GPA cut off at all, and that she's seen a lot of analysts (entry IB level job) with low GPAs turn out to be great successes.

The only thing is a lower GPA candidate will have to make it up with amazing extracurriculars and past job experiences..but it's still very possible.

Engineers and CS majors may be different however, as what's learned in the classrooms is directly used in the job.

 

[HumblePie]

It all depends on how you market and advertise yourself.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Originally posted by: wasssup
Yeah, everyone asks me for my GPA...mine is a 2.93 and since it's not a 3.0 most won't even look at me

that's what i get for screwing around in engineering before switching to CS

Hahah... I was in Engineering too and I switched to CS... luckily I did it during my Sophmore year so I hadn't really take any core engineering classes. I'll hopefully be graduating with summa cum laude in december because of the fact!! CS pwnz ;D ;D

 

[Corporate Thug]

coming out of college, grades speak louder than anything else (in most cases)

 

[jiggahertz]

One of the group leaders at the research lab I work for has an unofficial policy that he won't make anyone an offer with < 3.8 coming out of undergrad.