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[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Drag, how many new features are added to older OSes (any)? I don't see much if any in the windows world, not sure about linux, but I'd bet new features are rolled out with new OSes, no?

New features are often backported in the freenix world.

Again, these are not fixed, they are blankets. Want to make 2k just as secure as XP? It's possible. Do you think SP2 makes XP so much more secure than 2K? What can XP do that 2K can't?

Utilize atleast portions of NX. How do you add that to win2k?

Run trusted code, however, that is one of the better examples where the screw is tightened my MS.

Also, thinking back, the example of new features to linux isn't fair. After all new features are the impetus to get a new version, and when you actualy sell the product, it isn't marketable to provide backwards compatible features (also cost more to make I'm sure, freenix may be free to the consumer, but it still has costs).

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Drag, how many new features are added to older OSes (any)? I don't see much if any in the windows world, not sure about linux, but I'd bet new features are rolled out with new OSes, no?

New features are often backported in the freenix world.

Again, these are not fixed, they are blankets. Want to make 2k just as secure as XP? It's possible. Do you think SP2 makes XP so much more secure than 2K? What can XP do that 2K can't?

Utilize atleast portions of NX. How do you add that to win2k?

Run trusted code, however, that is one of the better examples where the screw is tightened my MS.

That's not the same thing. Far from it in fact. That scores a 10 on the ridiculous scale, IMO.

Also, thinking back, the example of new features to linux isn't fair. After all new features are the impetus to get a new version, and when you actualy sell the product, it isn't marketable to provide backwards compatible features (also cost more to make I'm sure, freenix may be free to the consumer, but it still has costs).

I'm not sure WTF this means at all.

 

[Phoenix86]

Did I mention your example was one of the better ones? Most the other features have better answers (infobar, firewall, etc.). Are you saying running trusted code is a bad computing practice? I consider it fairly high on the list.

It means there is no reason to pay for an upgrade in they provide all new features to an older OS. Should you expect an XP kernel update for W95 users? That's not a very sound business model IMO, unless you charge subscriptions.

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
cant wait for XPSE

There's no such thing.

The next "new" version of Windows wont be till '06 (Longhorn); until than there are only service packs and marketing hype.

 

[Phoenix86]

There is XPSE, it's just not "second edition" it "starter edition" for developing countries. It's a netuered version of XP for less $ so countries in the APAC region don't go all linux.

XPSE

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Did I mention your example was one of the better ones? Most the other features have better answers (infobar, firewall, etc.). Are you saying running trusted code is a bad computing practice? I consider it fairly high on the list.

It depends on what you mean by trusted. Trusted source, or trusted as in Trusted Solaris?

Trusted as in a known good source is silly. No code is bug free, and relying on proper coding practices does not work (see: OpenBSD).

Trusted as in trusted solaris (and similar technologies) does not solve the problem. It also creates new ones.

It means there is no reason to pay for an upgrade in they provide all new features to an older OS. Should you expect an XP kernel update for W95 users? That's not a very sound business model IMO, unless you charge subscriptions.

Oh, ok. I get it now. No, I don't think backporting all new features is the right way to go. I suspect the main reason it goes on in the freenix world is to help out people that cannot upgrade easily.

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
There is XPSE, it's just not "second edition" it "starter edition" for developing countries. It's a netuered version of XP for less $ so countries in the APAC region don't go all linux.

XPSE

mmm, forgot about Starter Edition...

Though I wouldnt really consider Starter Edition a "new" OS; it's really just existing XP code with major pieces cut out and/or additional limitations applied. Besides isnt it already released?