Identification Laws in MA?

[BeauJangles]

If a store demands to see an ID for a credit card purchase in MA (not alcohol, tabacco, or pron), are you legally obligated to present your ID?

 

[Atheus]

In most places in the world you are not required to show ID to a shop, but the shop is not required to sell you anything either.

 

[WiseOldDude]

you can walk out, but they are doing it to protect themselves and you. get over it and show your ID, unless you are trying to use a stolen card

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: WiseOldDude
you can walk out, but they are doing it to protect themselves and you. get over it and show your ID, unless you are trying to use a stolen card

I didn't refuse, I was just curious because at some point someone told me there were laws against showing your ID. But they were probably morons.

 

[bctbct]

I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: bctbct
I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

Proof?

It's the law that they ask for your ID if you look underage.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: bctbct
I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

Proof?

It's the law that they ask for your ID if you look underage.

It is a violation of the CC merchant agreement. (there was a thread about this before)

He said NOT alcohol, tobacco or porn, so age isn't an issue.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: bctbct
I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

Proof?

It's the law that they ask for your ID if you look underage.

It is a violation of the CC merchant agreement. (there was a thread about this before)

He said NOT alcohol, tobacco or porn, so age isn't an issue.

Yup, you're right, probably should have read more than the first couple words of the OP.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Atheus
In most places in the world you are not required to show ID to a shop, but the shop is not required to sell you anything either.

^^^

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: bctbct
I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

Proof?

It's the law that they ask for your ID if you look underage.

It is a violation of the CC merchant agreement. (there was a thread about this before)

He said NOT alcohol, tobacco or porn, so age isn't an issue.

One time this guy came into a store I was working at and handed me his CC for payment. I swiped it and he asked me why I didn't ask him for ID (made a fuss about it). He said look at his signature on the card, which read "please ask for ID."

I then told him that I wouldn't accept that card for his purchase because it wasn't signed. He seemed a bit pissed off at that, and then I told him since he wanted to make a fuss over me not asking him for ID, I was going to make a fuss over him not having a valid signature on the card.

Eventually, he signed the card in front of me and was on his way.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: WiseOldDude
you can walk out, but they are doing it to protect themselves and you. get over it and show your ID, unless you are trying to use a stolen card

I pretty much share this opinion as well. Yeah, they're not supposed to do it. But anything they do to prevent credit card fraud is good for all of us. I'd rather see them doing more than they're suppose to do than what I typically see (they never even check your signature).

And just in case someone brings this up again, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WRITE "CHECK ID" ON THE BACK OF YOUR CREDIT CARD. NO! DON'T DO IT! BAD!

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BigJ

One time this guy came into a store I was working at and handed me his CC for payment. I swiped it and he asked me why I didn't ask him for ID (made a fuss about it). He said look at his signature on the card, which read "please ask for ID."

I then told him that I wouldn't accept that card for his purchase because it wasn't signed. He seemed a bit pissed off at that, and then I told him since he wanted to make a fuss over me not asking him for ID, I was going to make a fuss over him not having a valid signature on the card.

Eventually, he signed the card in front of me and was on his way.

When they do that, I believe you actually ARE supposed to require ID AFTER you make them sign the card, but you can't accept the card until it's signed. Good job though. :thumbsup:

Signing the card indicates that you agree to the terms of the credit card agreement, meaning among other things that you are protected if your card is stolen. If your card is not signed and it is stolen, I don't believe the credit card companies are obligated to remove fraudulent charges, although they typically will anyway.

 

[mjh]

Since I live in California, I am very used to having people ask me for my ID when I use a credit card. It now feels weird when I don't get asked to show some form of ID.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: bctbct
I think it is a violation of the CC user agreement that they ask for ID.

Proof?

It's the law that they ask for your ID if you look underage.

It is a violation of the CC merchant agreement. (there was a thread about this before)

He said NOT alcohol, tobacco or porn, so age isn't an issue.

You sure? I live in MA and i worked at two retail chains and the call for action for suspicious signitures (non legible, not signed on back) was some form of ID w/ signiture

That said, it is also a break in the policy if they require a min. amount, but so many places still do it.

 

[George P Burdell]

Originally posted by: Atheus
In most places in the world you are not required to show ID to a shop, but the shop is not required to sell you anything either.

True.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

You sure? I live in MA and i worked at two retail chains and the call for action for suspicious signitures (non legible, not signed on back) was some form of ID w/ signiture

That said, it is also a break in the policy if they require a min. amount, but so many places still do it.

You ARE supposed to require ID if it's not signed on back, but you also have to make them sign it or you can't take the card. I'm not sure about illegible signatures.