IDEA! GPS device that automatically governs car to speed limit

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: yukichigai
Lesse, ignoring the massive invasion of privacy, I'm sure this would work out great for situations where, say, some gang bangers start shooting at you and you're only able to hobble away at 25 miles per because of the limiter. Or you need to get to the hospital ASAP and don't have the time/money for an ambulance. Sure, you die from massive blood loss because you hit a school zone, but knowing that this technology has saved maybe 12 lives, tops, will be of great comfort as you slip off into the final black unknown.

In most accidents speed is a factor, not a cause. Idiot drivers are perfectly capable of taking out a school bus full of innocent children while doing the speed limit.

Not really an invasion of privacy, but I think this is a good argument against it.

Domo.

By the way, here's another argument against it. From the report:

In 2004, speeding was a contributing factor in 30 percent of all fatal crashes.

30 percent, as a contributing factor. Not the cause, but a contributing factor, which according to the definition they use includes any crashes where the driver was speeding at all, regardless of whether or not that was what actually did 'em in. Why does that matter? Well let's scroll down the report a bit, shall we?

Let's look at the average sobriety of the drivers involved in these crashes. Shocker, only 15% of the drivers in these fatal crashes were sober. If anything, that tells me we have more of a DUI problem than a speeding problem.

Speeding isn't the issue, it's drunk driving, distracted driving, or just being an asshole behind the wheel. Speeding is just the straw that breaks the camel's back in some instances. We should be spending all of this anti-speeding money cracking down on drunk drivers, something that would actually save lives. The statistics indicate that roughly 39% of all fatal crashes involve alcohol. (though again, they neglect to track "caused by alcohol") I'd go after the drunks rather than the speeders, especially since so many of the speeding-related fatalities involve alcohol.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Speed is the primary reason in a LOT of fatal accidents.

Nationally, 31% of all fatal accidents

Look up some statistics...

Interestingly enough I wrote my previous post before I saw this. Still counters that argument just fine.

Speed is very loosely defined as a contributing factor because they lump in any accident where someone was speeding, even by all of 5mph over. The amount of human splatilarity which occurs at 60mph versus 55mph is not that different. (Though the difference between 25mpg and 30mph might be a little more substantial)

 

[JulesMaximus]

That would fvcking blow. :thumbsdown:

 

[DivideBYZero]

You can still drive dangerously, maim and kill at or below the posted speed limit.

 

[revnja]

die plz

 

[Drakkon]

i say the GPS device makes them drive AT LEAST the speed limit...no less...thus no traffic jams...no looky loos...and if there is an accident you better get out the way fast cause pretty soon another ar is coming at 55+

 

[Vic]

Speed never causes a collision, it just makes the damage worse. The leading causes of collisions are congestion, driver inattentiveness, and DUI.

Waxing slippery slope on the OP's argument, if we used a GPS system to automatically govern all cars to a speed limit of 5 mph at all times, we could make it so there was never a traffic-related fatality again.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Vic
Speed never causes a collision, it just makes the damage worse. The leading causes of collisions are congestion, driver inattentiveness, and DUI.

Waxing slippery slope on the OP's argument, if we used a GPS system to automatically govern all cars to a speed limit of 5 mph at all times, we could make it so there was never a traffic-related fatality again.

nope the vehicle is still moveing. the only safe way is to make sure the GPS does not allow the car to start or move. the gps can be used to track to make sure it does not go anyplace.

that is the only safe way to stop vehicle deaths. oh and make sure the doors do not open at all.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can still drive dangerously, maim and kill at or below the posted speed limit.

There was a fatal accident at a truck stop here in Oregon recently. A man was hauling his owner-operator rig across the country with his 13 year-old son and stopped overnight so they could sleep. In the morning, he got out to work underneath the truck on one of its axles. The son woke up later, assumed his dad had gone out for breakfast, and decided to take the truck for a spin around the parking lot. I'm pretty sure no speed limits were broken.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Vic
Speed never causes a collision, it just makes the damage worse. The leading causes of collisions are congestion, driver inattentiveness, and DUI.

Waxing slippery slope on the OP's argument, if we used a GPS system to automatically govern all cars to a speed limit of 5 mph at all times, we could make it so there was never a traffic-related fatality again.

nope the vehicle is still moveing. the only safe way is to make sure the GPS does not allow the car to start or move. the gps can be used to track to make sure it does not go anyplace.

that is the only safe way to stop vehicle deaths. oh and make sure the doors do not open at all.

Well, I'd argue that we should just outlaw the car and go back to the horse and buggy, but there were traffic fatalities (and speed limits, it's true) even back then.

 

[MrWizzard]

DrPizza

Speed is the primary reason in a LOT of fatal accidents.


quote:

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Nationally, 31% of all fatal accidents
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Look up some statistics...

So what your saying is I am more likely to survive if I speed and crash than if I obey the law....

Sorry I couldn't resist.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: KillyKillall
THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ORIGINAL! OMG. you're going to be soooooooooo rich!

haha you beat me to it

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: D22
Well, I was born in 83 and never heard of this before. So yes maybe I have been under a rock, certainly is possible.

or you're dumber than hell...

i was born in '83, too. i thought i came up with this idea in 8th grade.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor

Originally posted by: D22
Well, I was born in 83 and never heard of this before. So yes maybe I have been under a rock, certainly is possible.

LOL not the year. The title of the book. Sheesh you were born in 1983 and haven't heard of 1984?

proof positive the op is an idiot.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Vic
Speed never causes a collision, it just makes the damage worse. The leading causes of collisions are congestion, driver inattentiveness, and DUI.

Waxing slippery slope on the OP's argument, if we used a GPS system to automatically govern all cars to a speed limit of 5 mph at all times, we could make it so there was never a traffic-related fatality again.

nope the vehicle is still moveing. the only safe way is to make sure the GPS does not allow the car to start or move. the gps can be used to track to make sure it does not go anyplace.

that is the only safe way to stop vehicle deaths. oh and make sure the doors do not open at all.

Well, I'd argue that we should just outlaw the car and go back to the horse and buggy, but there were traffic fatalities (and speed limits, it's true) even back then.

hmm yeah that would'nt be good. how about we just outlaw killing someone with a car?

 

[MBrown]

NO!

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You can still drive dangerously, maim and kill at or below the posted speed limit.

There was a fatal accident at a truck stop here in Oregon recently. A man was hauling his owner-operator rig across the country with his 13 year-old son and stopped overnight so they could sleep. In the morning, he got out to work underneath the truck on one of its axles. The son woke up later, assumed his dad had gone out for breakfast, and decided to take the truck for a spin around the parking lot. I'm pretty sure no speed limits were broken.

I'm pretty sure the kid was unable to get the truck in gear. Just rolled over daddy.

 

[Pepsi90919]

driving the speed limit does not save lives, only pisses me off