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HAL9000

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lols. Except apple doesn't make anything. So that doesn't work. None of their hardware is made by them and they can't even build their own cloud services. It's quite telling of the company. I wouldn't invest so heavily in a company that relies so heavily on others for their tech.

So you think companies like dell build their own processors / RAM/ HDD's etc? Or do they outsource the parts... Hmm... I suppose that means that no companies make anything except for manufacturers.
 

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I suppose that means that no companies make anything except for manufacturers.

Someone can assemble a product, and still call themselves a manufacturer.

The problem comes in when a company neither assembles, or manufacturers a product from raw materials.

When you call dell and order a workstation, there is the workstation assembled?
 

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Lifer
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Someone can assemble a product, and still call themselves a manufacturer.

The problem comes in when a company neither assembles, or manufacturers a product from raw materials.

When you call dell and order a workstation, there is the workstation assembled?

When you call Apple and order a Mac Pro, there is a Mac Pro assembled.... I don't get your point.
 

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when you call apple and order an ipod/ipad, it was probably made by foxconn, and resold by apple.

OH Noes!

But it was designed by apple, software was written by apple.

But it was constructed by a subcontractor.... Who gives a shit?
 

Texashiker

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But it was constructed by a subcontractor.... Who gives a shit?

The product is not a "real" apple product, its a foxconn product.

Where does an idea end, and the physical product start? How do you justify an idea as a tangible product?
 
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Assets bitches

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lol!! Could someone photoshop that or another phrase in the pic?
 

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Lifer
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The product is not a "real" apple product, its a foxconn product.

Where does an idea end, and the physical product start? How do you justify an idea as a tangible product?

When you buy a computer from anyone it's a collection of Intel etc etc products, who gives a shit. an iPod is clearly an apple product, they designed it, contracted it out etc. If you can't see that then this conversation is pointless.
 

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When you buy a computer from anyone it's a collection of Intel etc etc products, who gives a shit. an iPod is clearly an apple product, they designed it, contracted it out etc. If you can't see that then this conversation is pointless.


He obviously can't see that. His brain must be too small to compute.

Texashiker is providing lots of lulz for me. Sure Apple might not have assembled an iPod/iPad/iPhone in their own plant, but designing and giving direction to someone you contract out is like an extension of your business.
 

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Lifer
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He obviously can't see that. His brain must be too small to compute.

Texashiker is providing lots of lulz for me. Sure Apple might not have assembled an iPod/iPad/iPhone in their own plant, but designing and giving direction to someone you contract out is like an extension of your business.

True enough.
 

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The product is not a "real" apple product, its a foxconn product.

Where does an idea end, and the physical product start? How do you justify an idea as a tangible product?

Wow, seriously? Example

Lets get this straight. A band writes and performs music, but the CD should be titled "Music Publishing House" because obviously, by your freaking idiotic notions, the band did not press the CD themselves and the music is now no long their music and it's really whoever made the CD. I mean, just because they wrote and played the music it's obviously not their music because they didn't manufacture it. It's not a physical product until it's manufactured. How do you justify such an idiotic idea and your stupidity?

Target stores are not really Target stores. We should start calling them Jacks Construction Company. It's clearly obvious that Target did not build that store themselves and oursourced it to a construction company in the local area. Therefore, it's not a real Target store because they didn't physically build the building. You should place a call to Target and have a talk with them.
 

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Lifer
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lols. Except apple doesn't make anything. So that doesn't work. None of their hardware is made by them and they can't even build their own cloud services. It's quite telling of the company. I wouldn't invest so heavily in a company that relies so heavily on others for their tech.

No company makes their own stuff. The zune was made the same way the ipod was made. It's just a bunch of third party parts put in a single solution. You think your laptop or computer was made by the name on the box? Guess again. You think your headphones were designed by the name on the package? Nope, they went to some design firm in the area.
 

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The product is not a "real" apple product, its a foxconn product.

Where does an idea end, and the physical product start? How do you justify an idea as a tangible product?

By that logic, Bose or Sennheiser does not make headphones.
 

Texashiker

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wow you are an idiot. It would only matter if foxconn could make the same devices without apple.

You are saying foxconn can not make their own products?

The employees at apple do the designing. Employees are portable, foxconn hires a few people, and guess what, who needs apple?


By that logic, Bose or Sennheiser does not make headphones.

Does Bose and Sennheiser own the manufacturing plants, supervise the construction and ensure quality control?


No company makes their own stuff.

Please do not use blanket statements. I worked in manufacturing for around 14 years, and we produced our own products.
 
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You are saying foxconn can not make their own products?

The employees at apple do the designing. Employees are portable, foxconn hires a few people, and guess what, who needs apple?




Does Bose and Sennheiser own the manufacturing plants, supervise the construction and ensure quality control?




Please do not use blanket statements, I worked in manufacturing for around 14 years. and we produced our own products.

no. They don't. I worked for bose, so I would know. In fact, Bose, Senheisser, and a bunch of other audio headphones are made at the same plant in China.

You do not understand the concept of design. Foxconn is a manufacturing company, not a design firm.

So, when did you leave the manufacturing industry? Even the US tool companies have outsourced their manufacturing to off site places.
 
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no. They don't. I worked for bose, so I would know. In fact, Bose, Senheisser, and a bunch of other audio headphones are made at the same plant in China.

So those products are Bose and Senheisser in name alone


So, when did you leave the manufacturing industry?

My last job in manufacturing was in 2003 - 2004, when I worked at a heat exchanger shop in southwest Louisiana.

Before then, it was 1986 - 1999 in various pressure vessel, heat exchanger and structural shops.