ICE to turn detention centers into inclusive resorts

[spidey07]

This is beyond ridiculous. Who ordered these changes? With this kind of luxury why wouldn't more people come here illegally? If you get caught, you are just sent to a plush facility complete with dance and cooking classes.

The "it smells funny" part of me thinks it's to offer training to illegals in preparation for amnesty, what forms they'll need to fill out, look how great the federal government is for you, etc.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7043040.html

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are preparing to roll out a series of changes at several privately owned immigration detention centers, including relaxing some security measures for low-risk detainees and offering art classes, bingo and continental breakfast on the weekends.

Other major changes include:

• Eliminating lockdowns and lights-out for low-risk detainees.

• Allowing visitors to stay as long as they like in a 12-hour period.

• Providing a unit manger so detainees have someone to report problems to other than the guard.

• Allowing low-risk detainees to wear their own clothing or other non-penal attire.

• Providing e-mail access and Internet-based free phone service.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I think the OP should take full advantage of this egregious government handout. Please check into your local ICE detention facility and sign up for those cooking and dance classes although I'm not sure you need any additional internet access

 

[Linflas]

I think the OP should take full advantage of this egregious government handout. Please check into your local ICE detention facility and sign up for those cooking and dance classes although I'm not sure you need any additional internet access

So you believe that someone caught entering the country illegally deserves an extended stay at Club Med courtesy of the taxpayers of the United States? Yes that is a bit of hyperbole but in reality what they should expect is fairly spartan accomodations until they can be sent back to their country of origin, no more, no less.

 

[MotF Bane]

Illegal immigrants have committed a crime whereupon they are to be held in prison until such time as they are deported from the country. Why the fuck can our government, and for that matter, some of the idiotic hacks here, not understand this?

 

[Red Dawn]

This is beyond ridiculous. Who ordered these changes? With this kind of luxury why wouldn't more people come here illegally? If you get caught, you are just sent to a plush facility complete with dance and cooking classes.

The "it smells funny" part of me thinks it's to offer training to illegals in preparation for amnesty, what forms they'll need to fill out, look how great the federal government is for you, etc.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7043040.html

Is this different than how they deal with other low risk criminals. If it is then it's bullshit. They should be treated the same.

 

[spidey07]

Is this different than how they deal with other low risk criminals. If it is then it's bullshit. They should be treated the same.

The article makes it very clear that ICE believes detention centers are not meant to be prisons nor punishment. It's almost like even ICE doesn't think they are criminals, just people that need to be detained for some time until deportation.

12 hour visitation? Hey! Have the whole family over for a Great getaway!

 

[theeedude]

They should have them do jobs that Americans won't do for wages Americans won't take. That will teach them not to come here illegally.

 

[dullard]

Immigrants who usually have committed a crime whereupon they are to be held until such time as they are deported from the country.

Fixed.

ICE detention is not punitive and it is not a prison. If you wish it to be a prison, then you should help change the laws.

I changed it from "committed a crime" to "ususally have committed a crime" since you can be held in a detention center and deported without committing crimes. For example, a person could be in the US legally but have a communicable disease or a mental disorder. Both of those aren't crimes, but both could lead to deportation.

 

[Red Dawn]

The article makes it very clear that ICE believes detention centers are not meant to be prisons nor punishment. It's almost like even ICE doesn't think they are criminals, just people that need to be detained for some time until deportation.

12 hour visitation? Hey! Have the whole family over for a Great getaway!

And bag some more illegals. Brilliant!!!

How long does it take to deport them? It's might cheaper to just put the low risk deportees in a camp like this rather than a regular county jail or prison though the art and dance lessons seems ridiculous.

 

[dullard]

And bag some more illegals. Brilliant!!!

How long does it take to deport them? It's might cheaper to just put the low risk deportees in a camp like this rather than a regular county jail or prison though the art and dance lessons seems ridiculous.

1 to 2 months is common. But it depends a lot on if any of the parties drag their feet (the US, the other country, or the detainee). This move supposedly will reduce costs slightly (by a few dollars per day), I suppose that is why Spidey07 is so against it. He has been against any cost cutting move by this administration.

 

[Linflas]

And bag some more illegals. Brilliant!!!

How long does it take to deport them? It's might cheaper to just put the low risk deportees in a camp like this rather than a regular county jail or prison though the art and dance lessons seems ridiculous.

That probably depends on whether they are making some type of asylum/residence claim. I believe the way we typically dealt with this in the past was if it was determined that their asylum claim had some merit then they would be given some type of temporary visa and released while the process worked its way through the bureaucracy rather than have them locked up in a detention center.

 

[Jaskalas]

Illegal immigrants have committed a crime whereupon they are to be held in prison until such time as they are deported from the country. Why the fuck can our government, and for that matter, some of the idiotic hacks here, not understand this?

They do not recognize the crime. Best way for them to attack the legal system without changing the law is to simply not enforce it.