ICE To Refuses Processing Of Illegal Immigrants From Arizona

[blackangst1]

This is interesting considering ICE has already processed 34,150 illegals from Maricopa County alone (according to Maricopa's own website).

 

[blackangst1]

Since when is treating a criminal like a criminal a bad thing?

He's complaining that the Arizona law makes it a crime to be in the country illegally. Isn't that already a crime? Aren't there already federal laws about that?

Liberals are very, very confused.

 

[Lemon law]

Excuse me, there are due process of law questions even in deporting illegal aliens, and under the accepted legal doctrine of fruit of a poisoned tree is invalid, Morton has a duty to make the statement he did.

But still a somewhat side question now, the AZ law is now a ward of the courts and may never take effect.

 

[CrackRabbit]

I changed it to be more accurate BUT the new news today is that they are actively looking into it (and this has been confirmed by ICE).

If that is true the ONLY reasons I can think of for doing that would be that the government feels that Arizona is stepping on federal toes with SB1070 or the Justice Dept is going to file suit against Arizona claiming SB1070 is unconstitutional and has instructed ICE to not accept illegals caught by SB1070 until it resolved.
I don't think it is some Machiavellian scheme by the Obama admin for amnesty or "reform".

 

[Red Dawn]

This is interesting considering ICE has already processed 34,150 illegals from Maricopa County alone (according to Maricopa's own website).

So they are processing illegal immigrants from AZ. Oh well, another typical bullshit thread started by Patsanaus

 

[Patranus]

So they are processing illegal immigrants from AZ. Oh well, another typical bullshit thread started by Patsanaus

I guess you don't know what the 'ed' means at the end of processed.

 

[Red Dawn]

I guess you don't know what the 'ed' means at the end of processed.

I know what anus means at the end of Patranus.:twisted:

 

[EagleKeeper]

So they are processing illegal immigrants from AZ. Oh well, another typical bullshit thread started by Patsanaus

But they want to process those that are caught by ICE methods. Taking anyone via SB1040 will demonstrate that ICE was not doing enough.

The government should be happy to get help on this issue from any group of LEOs. Less chasing that they have to do.

Why look at a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[cubeless]

Since when is treating a criminal like a criminal a bad thing?

He's complaining that the Arizona law makes it a crime to be in the country illegally. Isn't that already a crime? Aren't there already federal laws about that?

because his management doesn't fund or direct him to do that...

not that this is anything new for the past bunch of admins...

 

[Linflas]

But they want to process those that are caught by ICE methods. Taking anyone via SB1040 will demonstrate that ICE was not doing enough.

The government should be happy to get help on this issue from any group of LEOs. Less chasing that they have to do.

Why look at a gift horse in the mouth.

If the local offices start doing that you can guarantee it came from political appointees in DC. The career professionals would have no issue with deporting as the law calls for.

 

[EagleKeeper]

If the local offices start doing that you can guarantee it came from political appointees in DC. The career professionals would have no issue with deporting as the law calls for.

And the political appointee follows the direction of his boss who does not believe immigration laws should be followed

 

[cubby1223]

ICE doesn't deport anyone anywhere, why would it be any different this time they refuse to enforce their own laws, perform their own duties?

 

[Throckmorton]

Since when is treating a criminal like a criminal a bad thing?

He's complaining that the Arizona law makes it a crime to be in the country illegally. Isn't that already a crime? Aren't there already federal laws about that?

I think the problem is that it's a federal crime, illegal immigration can't be a state crime by definition. It would be like if you or I "arrested" an illegal immigrant and took him to the ICE office and told them to deport him. Regardless of whether the person is breaking federal law, we have no legal authority to enforce it. Is that true or can local police enforce immigration law?

 

[nobodyknows]

Fence in Arizona and make it a federal detention center for illegals.

Arrest and then put the illegals to work building that fence..... or the one between us and Mexico might make more sense.... you think???

 

[nobodyknows]

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html


http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html


It's no wonder the illeglas think we're stupid.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I think the problem is that it's a federal crime, illegal immigration can't be a state crime by definition. It would be like if you or I "arrested" an illegal immigrant and took him to the ICE office and told them to deport him. Regardless of whether the person is breaking federal law, we have no legal authority to enforce it. Is that true or can local police enforce immigration law?

LEO have the authority to detain anyone that has committed a crime.
Then the overall authority (International/Fed/State/Local) that has jurisdiction is normally responsible to taking control (physical custody) of the person and following through on what ever legal procedures are required.

 

[Hacp]

Wait, so if terrorism is a federal crime, it can't be a state crime? Or if rape is a federal crime, it can't also be a state crime? Or stealing?

 

[piasabird]

Make them sweep the streets with a tooth brush.

 

[Linflas]

Wait, so if terrorism is a federal crime, it can't be a state crime? Or if rape is a federal crime, it can't also be a state crime? Or stealing?

Bingo! So if the state police make a traffic stop and the driver turns out to be a wanted for violating a Federal law they should just let him go rather than detain him and turn him over to the Feds?

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

All this outrage (by both sides) over a law that is going to have absolutely zero net effect on illegal immigration.

 

[Patranus]

I think the problem is that it's a federal crime, illegal immigration can't be a state crime by definition. It would be like if you or I "arrested" an illegal immigrant and took him to the ICE office and told them to deport him. Regardless of whether the person is breaking federal law, we have no legal authority to enforce it. Is that true or can local police enforce immigration law?

The problem is not local law enforcement enforcing federal laws rather the federal government refusing to enforce federal laws.

 

[Linflas]

All this outrage (by both sides) over a law that is going to have absolutely zero net effect on illegal immigration.

It definitely had an effect here when we did something similar. It probably had no effect on illegal immigration into the country but it certainly eliminated one place they felt welcome to settle down in.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

It definitely had an effect here when we did something similar.

Where is "we"? Is it on the border?

They can't do anything unless they commit a crime first right? So it really isn't any different than what Arpaio was already doing.

We aren't going to see levels of illegals dropping in the state because of this law. I guarantee that.

..and that is ok by me, I'd have to pay 10 times more to get my yard work done.

 

[PokerGuy]

Regardless of whether the person is breaking federal law, we have no legal authority to enforce it. Is that true or can local police enforce immigration law?

No, local/state law enforcement can indeed enforce federal law, and federal law does not preclude local law enforcement from enforcing criminal activity under federal laws so long as it's covered by state/local law. There is a ton of legal precedent for local law enforcement enforcing federal law, appeals court rulings in all circuits and the SCOTUS.... but you won't hear that from the idiot media.

 

[PokerGuy]

We aren't going to see levels of illegals dropping in the state because of this law. I guarantee that.

I'd take you up on that bet. There's already anecdotal evidence to support many illegals seeking to go elsewhere, many businesses catering to them are now whining that their business is impacted. If you were here illegally, would you rather be in a state where there is a significant risk that if you get pulled over for something small you're going to get deported, or a state where you know you can be illegal and not have any problems?