rpanic
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- Dec 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
OMFG! A LEGAL immigrant from south of the border?
Quick, get out the white sheets and brown shirts!
Bienvenido y encantado señor!
I have been told that it is impossible. Why would anyone come here legally, oh ya because it?s the right thing to do.
I bet you are Republican, your Company registered overseas and you pay zero taxes or a fraction of what you should too.
I think we need to make residency, citizenship, employment authorization etc a bit more obtainable.
We need more workers handling the applications and investigations to help speed the process.
Currently the costs are high and the processing times even higher. It's no wonder no one wants to do it.
Illegal immigrants are bad for our economy and a strain on our resources, but if they want to come and do it the right way I'd welcome them all.
We need more workers handling the applications and investigations to help speed the process.
Currently the costs are high and the processing times even higher. It's no wonder no one wants to do it.
Illegal immigrants are bad for our economy and a strain on our resources, but if they want to come and do it the right way I'd welcome them all.
JeepinEd
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- Dec 12, 2005
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My ideals align close to the OLD Republican Ideals, except I have no problem with gay marriage, I'm pro choice and since I'm atheist, I don't agree with all their religious dogma.
I also think GWB screwed the Republican party.
My company is registered in Culver City, CA. Because I'm in California, I pay some of the highest taxes in the nation and will soon be paying even more!
The Federal government is prohibited from rounding up mother's of children and deporting them immediately. They put a monitoring bracelet on the mothers and released them and told them to show up in court. I think that is pretty humaned.
No one forced them to come to the USA Illegally and brake our laws. They are invaders. Hard to feel hard for people who invade your country. Lots of them probably are guilty of using faudulent identification, and for tax evasion.
No one forced them to come to the USA Illegally and brake our laws. They are invaders. Hard to feel hard for people who invade your country. Lots of them probably are guilty of using faudulent identification, and for tax evasion.
Is that for all mothers or just the ones who gave birth here and thus created an "anchor baby"? Otherwise what would be the problem with deporting them and their children immediately?
This may be true.
But I am convinced that too many people act like this is anti-illegal, when it's actually anti-hispanic.
Complaining about their music, their dress, their culture, and their language has nothing to do with their legal status. Complaining about a perceived cost to society and to our government, THAT is about legal status and I have no problem with that discussion.
(I'm not referring to you personally in this response, I am saying that all too frequently the person ranting about "those illegals" is talking about cultural or ethnic characteristics that they resent.)
BoomerD
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- Feb 26, 2006
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No, this is AMERICA...The United States of America...In case you haven't noticed, most parts of this country are already getting pretty dammed crowded. The reasons that the "other parts" aren't so crowded usually include a cold/harsh climate, lack of jobs for those who choose to live there, perhaps not good crop growing climates, etc.
We don't need an unlimited supply of untrained, unskilled workers.
We DO need highly trained & educated workers.
I do NOT argue that point...in fact, it's one of the biggest points of my immigration rants. We, as a nation, have not only the right, but the responsibility to pick and choose who we allow to immigrate here.
We NEED scientists since so many of our youth have no interest in math and the sciences...
We NEED well educated people since so many of our youth only wants to party and be cool...
We NEED people who are trained and well skilled, NOT "unwashed peons"
who are suitable for farmwork or low-skill construction work.Need farmworkers? Set up a program that allows a certain number of immigrant farmworkers to enter every year, but with the provision that they have to leave again every year.
Withhold 1/2 of their pay in a trust account, (yes, they'll need verifiable identification); something similar to the old Bracero program, but done properly so they actualy can collect the portion of their pay that gets withheld.
We have enough people who drop out of school or don't want to go to college, that with the proper guidance and incentives, could fill the needs of our construction and manufacturing industries, they could do "the jobs that Americans won't do," (or more properly, won't do for the low wages industry gets away with paying the "wetbacks," because they don't/won't complain.
Originally posted by: Lothar
What's that person from Germany doing there?
Someone's gotta take command.
Schadenfroh
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Getting busted
I know some people who have friends and family working there. I have lived in the area, my best friend's father still works for them and various members of my family have worked there in the past.
Few tidbits (mostly 2nd-hand information, for I do not live in that town anymore):
- Howard Industries is the largest transformer maker in the world (of the type they manufacture).
- MAJOR employer for Jones County, at least in the top three.
- It would be a disaster for the county if their plants closed (unlikely to happen unless the government shuts them down as some kind of punishment).
- They should have no trouble filling the open positions left by those who were actually illegals even though Laurel traditionally has had a lower unemployment rate than the rest of the state due to the oil / timber industry (not so much timber industry anymore, but IIRC Laurel grew around the timber industry earlier in the century), Sanderson Farms, Masonite Corporation, etc. Masonite Corporation (inventors of the revolutionary hardboard by the same name), is suffering from the downturn in the housing market and axed many workers over the past few months, so hopefully many of the people that were downsized will be able to find a job at Howard Industries.
- Howard Industries is a private company, I have seen Billy Howard (electrical engineer, founder and owner) around town and in restaurants on occasion. He is usually wearing working class clothing, eating in working class restaurants, and seems like a regular guy despite owning a ~billion dollars in assets. His kids are different. He actually fired one of his kids one time from the company for hiring his (or her) buddies rather than the best man / woman for the job:laugh:
- One of the ladies that worked in the offices for nearly two years stood up and put on an ICE jacket the morning of the raid and joined in. So, they have had the place infiltrated for a while... gathering information.
- When the ICE raiders approached their data center and gained entry, they told the computer scientists in there, "WE CAN DO IT THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY!" Replying in a rather smart ass fashion, one of the computer scientists replied, "What is the hard way?" The hard way was simply that they take the entire data center, rather than just taking copies of the data that they required for the investigation.
- Another shift was not impacted (so any illegals on that shift got away).
- Several of the assumed "illegals" detained were in fact legals (as expected), they are still sorting all of that out.
- Nearly all of the Mexican restaurants in town closed for a short while (most have reopened).
- Many families in the predominately Hispanic areas fled town that day in a mass exodus.
- An immigrant rights group has secured the final paychecks of many involved and promised to keep them safe until they can retrieve them.
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