ICE fires first shot.

[mikeymikec]

Murder is a state crime

Two funny things about rules:

1) They can be changed
2) They can be ignored

 

[Jaskalas]

This is the actual 5th avenue moment

And the ENTIRE Administration, Every. Single. Person., stands firmly behind walking up and murdering American citizens on the streets.
As we witnessed, as they wholeheartedly endorse. Time and again and again and again.
This is still just the beginning. In the 1940s, Nazi Germany required millions of deaths to move past. Can Nazi America do any better?

No matter what follows, we know who broke the peace.

 

[pauldun170]

Hmm… it seems they may have fielded a few angry calls from their members…

View attachment 137270

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2vi0/heres_your_proof_with_the_moment_of_truth_isolated

Investigation over

 

[VRAMdemon]

I normally don’t watch people saying shit on social media, but this guy’s righteous anger is spot on!

 

[Jaskalas]

I normally don’t watch people saying shit on social media, but this guy’s righteous anger is spot on!

He's wrong... insofar as, the justification is not important to the Nazis.
They would have killed this guy with or without disarming him first.
I find it immaterial to their wanton desire for murdering Americans.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Still a dismal 41% oppose getting rid of the masked Gestapo that is disappearing people off the streets, and now murdering two on the street recently.

Yeah, it's sometimes coined "symbolic strength to a cause" ...

When people repeat things that they know are wrong, they’re of the mindset that anything but total adherence to their cause, to their group, to their conspiracy theory or belief, is weakness. They are showing what they consider to be strength - symbolic strength - by doubling down on the thing that’s wrong to show their loyalty/faith to whatever group or belief they identify with. It’s really pretty similar to the mindset you learn as a religious person, only applied to other sorts of non-reality. Things that contraindicate your belief are a test. It’s weakness to give in and lose your faith. You show your faith is strong by asserting your untrue beliefs in the face of contrary evidence.

When people support Trump and he starts doing heinous, illegal shit, they decide - do I defend him, or do I admit I supported an incompetent, evil asshole? Most of them chose to support him rather than admit they were wrong. So when he does something even worse, do you admit you were wrong in the first place AND you were wrong to double down and support him again, or do you just double down a second time? And when he does a 4th even more horrible thing, or a 40th, or a 400th, you’re in even deeper. Do you admit that you were wrong in the first place and wrong when you doubled down 400 times, or do you just keep showing your symbolic strength, never admit you were wrong, and double down again for the 401st time?

At this point a significant portion of a lot of people’s identity is deluding themselves that Donald Trump is worthy of their support and their worship and their commitment and if they were to admit that wasn’t true, and that they were conned, and that they supported evil this whole time, their whole identities could collapse, as well as their social group. Most of them are not capable of that level of personal growth. It’s the sunk cost fallacy written in blood. So long as it’s not THEIR blood why would they change?

 

[pauldun170]

Yup

 

[KMFJD]

from Alex Pretti's parent's

 

[Artorias]

If somehow its gets to election day this what will be happening. Close polls, cause chaos and swing the election.

Cause fear, and panic, that's the plan.

 

[KMFJD]

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qm2vi0/heres_your_proof_with_the_moment_of_truth_isolated

Investigation over

but they will keep covering for them....just watch, they've almost all bowed down

 

[Jaskalas]

If somehow we make it to election day this what will be happening. Close polls, cause chaos and swing the election.

And with the electoral collage, it only takes a military occupation in a few cities.

 

[MrSquished]

Unless cutting out a person will severely hurt your own ability to survive, they should be gone

This is a well written post someone sent me this morning.

 

[hal2kilo]

View attachment 137246

ah look, the nra crept up from under some shit for a few seconds

Was going in here to ask what's the NRA stance. If you are not on the team, the rules don't work for you, huh. One thing the cons have down pat, hypocrisy.

 

[hal2kilo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015218874111639976

remember when they had snipers stationed against federal agents and nothing was ever done to them....

View attachment 137223

Well, the whole purpose of this operation is to take control of the blue states voting systems, duh!

 

[hal2kilo]

I would not be surprised if that was intentional so they can say the gun was fired …

That was my first thought, discharge the gun so you have an alibi, but the gun self discharged when flipped onto the street. Known problem with that gun.

 

[Jaskalas]

Well, the whole purpose of this operation is to take control of the blue states voting systems, duh!

This need to be repeated loud and clear.
The militarization of American streets, the MURDER of American citizens. In a swing state. Is SOLELY about seizing the next election by force.
Now the MAGA Nazis have DIRECTLY come out and stated this.

Trump AG: ICE will leave MN only if they turnover their voter database to Trump.

 

[trenchfoot]

Was going in here to ask what's the NRA stance. If you are not on the team, the rules don't work for you, huh. One thing the cons have down pat, hypocrisy.

These people are playing to a crowd that had their brains so thoroughly fucked over they're practically one last sneeze away from being lobotomized. They're all in a locked down ward being threatened into compliance by Uber Karens in the name of their Saint Head Nurse Ratched. They're all trained to have memory that will only kick in from the next hypocritically ludicrous accusation coming out of Trump's ass that they arm themselves with no matter how insanely asinine his declarations are. Ergo, they have no clue what hypocrisy is because they mysteriously forget what was said to make their current lie/fabrication/hoax conspiracy a hypocrisy to begin with. All their brains are used for is a programmed buffer waiting to be triggered by the next insult/accusation they hear being thrown down at Trump's muffin topped cankled feet.

 

[KMFJD]

it appears that the Minnesota national guard is there now wearing reflective vests and handing out hot chocolat and donuts to protestors ?

https://bsky.app/profile/onestpress.onestnetwork.com%2Fpost%2F3mdbmif4wh224

also wtf is this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015444911391146352

 

[burninatortech4]

I normally don’t watch people saying shit on social media, but this guy’s righteous anger is spot on!

He's absolutely right. We're not mad enough.

I don't normally post here but please hear me out.

The right has, for my entire life, been screaming that the big bad government was going to take our guns and our rights. The government is now doing that very thing and MAGA people I know are cheering it. Fuck them btw, I've cut them out of my life.

I'm done with MAGA's alternative facts, lying, bullshit.

Yesterday, a white, 37 year old, male, VA ICU nurse, was filming ICE in his city (which he has a right to be upset about) from the side walk. Another protester was pushed into him by ICE while he was filming. He was tackled to the ground, ICE discovered a lawful concealed carry, he did not brandish, he was disarmed, and then mag dumped and murdered by 2-3 ICE goons.

Imagine if a MAGA supporter was protesting Biden's FBI outside of a J6'ers house. The J6'er is being arrested for participation in J6. The MAGA supporter is filming and is pushed over by FBI. He has a concealed carry permit. He is disarmed and then murdered.

I proposed this very same hypothetical to my last MAGA acquaintance yesterday and he just blinked at me. I... just can't anymore.

When facts, logic, and morals are so twisted and fucked for these people - I can't see how it ends in any other way than more violence leading towards civil war.

 

[jdubs03]

Just got back from enjoying some nice walking through the snow here and was immediately confronted with this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015525476169547893

86% of Republicans are either in support of a cold blooded murder or aren’t sure.
This number man, this number. I’m absolutely disgusted. I didn’t think the “Not Justified” crowd would be 13%. Cooked.

The United States is going to fail. I don’t think we last before a reckoning happens in the next few years. At this point it seems nothing less than inevitable. Not when you have that many people bootlicking.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The United States is going to fail. I don’t think we last before a reckoning happens in the next few years. At this point it seems nothing less than inevitable. Not when you have that many people bootlicking.

What's this 'going to' talk? Was the pandemic response not already conclusive evidence that the US is a failed state? Personally I think this has been a failed state since the 2008 economic crash that robbed the Millennials and later generations of their futures while not a single criminal on Wall Street went to prison. And ever since they have been ruthlessly and relentlessly looting our wealth.

 

[burninatortech4]

Just got back from enjoying some nice walking through the snow here and was immediately confronted with this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015525476169547893

View attachment 137299
86% of Republicans are either in support of a cold blooded murder or aren’t sure.
This number man, this number. I’m absolutely disgusted. I didn’t think the “Not Justified” crowd would be 13%. Cooked.

The United States is going to fail. I don’t think we last before a reckoning happens in the next few years. At this point it seems nothing less than inevitable. Not when you have that many people bootlicking.

Those polls are not surprising when both sides are being given different accounts of reality. Video “proof” or evidence no longer appears to matter.

Alex Pretti didn't brandish. He didn't point his gun. He didn't even touch it. He was murdered after the gun was removed from his holster by an ICE agent. Yet, despite what the videos clearly show, numerous officials are not only saying he pulled a gun, they are saying he came there with the "intent" to "massacre" federal agents.

In this country, where we have the right to carry legal weapons, what does it turn out is the official word on this from the Administration that supposedly upholds our laws?

1) ⁠Kristi Noem: He was a "domestic terrorist" who "assaulted" officers and came there to "perpetuate violence."
2) ⁠Greg Bovino: Claimed Pretti had intent to "massacre law enforcement" and do "maximum damage."
3) Stephen Miller: Pretti was a "would be assassin" who tried to "assassinate federal officers."
4) Tricia McLaughlin (DHS): Pretti "approached US Border Patrol oficers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun" and "violently resisted being disarmed," prompting "defensive shots."

In Stephen Miller's case he didn't even wait for the footage to be posted before saying that absolute lie.

All they have is narrative control. And they will shamelessly resort to it when video directly contradicts it. And it won't stop no matter how much video is available. Blaming the victim is their MO. All that they care about is what "side" you're on.

 

[KMFJD]

yeah look at this shit



it's ice and cbp whio are the real victims here....

 

[jdubs03]

What's this 'going to' talk? Was the pandemic response not already conclusive evidence that the US is a failed state? Personally I think this has been a failed state since the 2008 economic crash that robbed the Millennials and later generations of their futures while not a single criminal on Wall Street went to prison. And ever since they have been ruthlessly and relentlessly looting our wealth.

I mean failed as in a true reckoning/revolution. Like the 92 LA riots on steroids plus HGH. But we know that’s what dipshit in chief and his Jewish Nazi sidekick wants.

Those polls are not surprising when both sides are being given different accounts of reality. Video “proof” or evidence no longer appears to matter.

Alex Pretti didn't brandish. He didn't point his gun. He didn't even touch it. He was murdered after the gun was removed from his holster by an ICE agent. Yet, despite what the videos clearly show, numerous officials are not only saying he pulled a gun, they are saying he came there with the "intent" to "massacre" federal agents.

In this country, where we have the right to carry legal weapons, what does it turn out is the official word on this from the Administration that supposedly upholds our laws?

1) ⁠Kristi Noem: He was a "domestic terrorist" who "assaulted" officers and came there to "perpetuate violence."
2) ⁠Greg Bovino: Claimed Pretti had intent to "massacre law enforcement" and do "maximum damage."
3) Stephen Miller: Pretti was a "would be assassin" who tried to "assassinate federal officers."
4) Tricia McLaughlin (DHS): Pretti "approached US Border Patrol oficers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun" and "violently resisted being disarmed," prompting "defensive shots."

In Stephen Miller's case he didn't even wait for the footage to be posted before saying that absolute lie.

All they have is narrative control. And they will shamelessly resort to it when video directly contradicts it. And it won't stop no matter how much video is available. Blaming the victim is their MO. All that they care about is what "side" you're on.

Oh I get it. But when I watched yesterday what MS NOW did by side by siding what those Nazi fucks said and the actual video, it is glaringly obvious the Nazi’s are lying.

 

[VashHT]

yeah look at this shit

View attachment 137301

it's ice and cbp whio are the real victims here....

Oh no they were locked in a restaurant, so much worse than being beaten and executed on the street.