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NWRMidnight

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Absolutely pathetic. The only thing that can stop any of this now is the masses - without igniting an opposition with literally peaceful steps, you will never get that. You need to ignite the masses. The only thing that will do that is an inspiring opposition.

and you didn't answer his question - WHAT DO YOU RECOMMMEND DOING?

Man up and answer you little coward.
But we are not talking about the masses, we are talking about your suggestion that the democrates should be pushing and organizing protests, and general strikes. Yes, the masses are the ones who can and will stop this, not the democrates in office, which history shows. History shows it was the people who stopped shit like this, united by activists, not the people from a specific party.

What? Man up? WTF dude.. I garantee I am more of man than you will ever accomplish in your pathedic, lying, manipulating life. Counter where i am wrong in the repliles I have given you..l starting with how you believe the democrats can do anything you suggest without this adminstration putting them in jail for breaking the law. You tell me to man up, yet you have ignored everything I have said, only to lie and manipulate the subject.
 

MrSquished

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But we are not talking about the masses, we are talking about your suggestion that the democrates should be pushing and organizing protests, and general strikes. Yes, the masses are the ones who can and will stop this, not the democrates in office, which history shows. History shows it was the people who stopped shit like this, united by activists, not the people from a specific party.

What? Man up? WTF dude.. I garantee I am more of man than you will ever accomplish in your pathedic, lying, manipulating life. Counter where i am wrong in the repliles I have given you..l starting with how you believe the democrats can do anything you suggest without this adminstration putting them in jail for breaking the law. You tell me to man up, yet you have ignored everything I have said, only to lie and manipulate the subject.
Holy shit - you do realize that opposition needs leadership and what everyone is fucking looking for from the opposition party, and not getting it, which is why Dem approval ratings are in the shitter.

Without leadership and unity, the masses have nothing to rally around. You are absolving the opposition party of doing even the most basic and peaceful activities to rally up the population.

It's fucking disgusting, pathetic, sad, cowardly - and none of these words can even convey how shitty what you are saying is. You are literally a fascist enabler. You are helping the evil happen by excusing even the most basic responsibilities from an opposition to get something going. The literal only thing that can potentially stop this. You are quashing it.

I can't even. There are literally no words to express how disgusting your statements are.
 

jdubs03

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I wouldn’t be so sure that that will protect those that fired the rest of those shots. It was clear as can be that the victim was on all fours incapable of even reaching for his nonexistent at that point firearm. Thus he was not a threat at all. Let alone those other shots where the guy was just literally dead on the ground at that point.

I don’t think there could be a valid defense for “my coworker accidentally discharged a firearm so we all thought it was the victim that we were beating so we saw it as a threat and we started popping off”.

I can’t see the agent getting away with it if there are state charges, which there absolutely should be.
 
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pauldun170

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Will the media or the opposition party establishment finally stand up to this?
The media needs to play the video and report on exactly what happened, the chain of events. That a citizen, white male nurse who served veterans was attacked and murdered while protecting a woman from an assault.
They need to report on the Trump regime reponse to the facts and the contrast between the truth and the lie.

They should report the facts all weekend and continue to follow the story throughout the week.

They should create follow up stories capture every thing.

 

brycejones

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I wouldn’t be so sure that that will protect those that fired the rest of those shots. It was clear as can be that the victim was on all fours incapable of even reaching for his nonexistent at that point firearm. Thus he was not a threat at all. Let alone those other shots where the guy was just literally dead on the ground at that point.

I don’t think there could be a valid defense for “my coworker accidentally discharged a firearm so we all thought it was the victim that we were beating so we saw it as a threat and we started popping off”.

I can’t see the agent getting away with it if there are state charges, which there absolutely should be.
Also let’s not forget this entire incident started because they bum rushed a guy for exercising his constitutional rights. His death is a very foreseeable consequence of their illegal actions to deny his civil rights.
 

NWRMidnight

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I think you are probably someone that even John Lewis would have punched in the face with who condescending and straight up misleading your nonsense is. We need a unified opposition leadership to cut through the misinformation and evil of this administration. You are excusing the opposition party from being an opposition because you are a total coward of epic proportions. The fact you count out peaceful opposition steps from the actual opposition party is so utterly disgusting that it is impossible to put into words how gross you are. You may as well hold the fascists hands while they perform their evil. The opposition party against Hitler did exactly what the Dems have done and continue to do so. They offered a pathetic resistance, and put up a pathetic candidate and opposition against them. You are advocating repeating history;.

Fucking gross.
As I said, it's clear you don't know your history. John Lewis wouldn't be punching me in the face if he was here today, because what is happening today, has never happened in this country before. He would know what I have said to be true, because he would be looking at the big picture, which you refuse to do. He wouldn't be setting up protests, setting up general strikes, breaking the law, as you believe the democrats should be doing. He would know, that it would put him behind bars with this adminstration, where he couldn't help the people of this country. You know, the actual topic, we are talking about that you keep maniulating and trying to change. John Lewis would be supporting the activists pushing for change, without activily organizing protests and general strikes. There is a difference, one is legal, one is not.. something you can't seem to grasp, so you lie and manipulate.

Once again, you are manipulating and lying. I never counted out peaceful opposition steps. I mearly gave you facts of why they can't organize protests and general strikes. Where you started lying and manipulating. Yet, you have not countered with anything other than calling me discusting, gross etc, along with straight up lying.

You tell me to man up.. well, here's the thing, I am not going to tell you that someone else would punch you in the face.. that is the definition of a pussy, someone who has to use others because they are not man enough themselves to stand up for what they believe and defend. But that isn't me, that's you. If we where talking face to face, where you flat out manipulated and lied about what I said, and was talking about, the conversation would not have continued, because you wouldn't be able too. you would be to busy picking your teeth and youself up off the ground. No man needs to use others to hide behind whether it be in text on a forum, or in person.

Now, I am not threatening you, I am mearly telling you what would have happened.. You don't know me, but let be clear, I am 100 times calmer in these forums than I am in person. I don't make threats.. never have, never will. I follow thru with what I say, and I don't hide behind others. So when I tell you that would have happened, you need to take it to heart. Stop lying, stop manipulating, and stop with the name calling. If you can't respond without doing so, then you need to not respond.. If you can, then counter what I actually said, tell us how they can do it, without this administration throwing them in jail, for breaking the law, which would not help the people.
 
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HomerJS

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She got a hard gaslighting BS thing going on. I saw what I saw you fucking, lying, bitch.
Reporters are really stupid sometimes. When she danced around the “did he brandish his weapon question”. Next reporter should have re-asked the same question and the next until she either answers or ends the presser. Then the story would have Gnome duck question if cops were really threatened with the gun
 

UNCjigga

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The NRA and all the so-called defenders of the Second Amendment be like..

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NWRMidnight

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Holy shit - you do realize that opposition needs leadership and what everyone is fucking looking for from the opposition party, and not getting it, which is why Dem approval ratings are in the shitter.

Without leadership and unity, the masses have nothing to rally around. You are absolving the opposition party of doing even the most basic and peaceful activities to rally up the population.

It's fucking disgusting, pathetic, sad, cowardly - and none of these words can even convey how shitty what you are saying is. You are literally a fascist enabler. You are helping the evil happen by excusing even the most basic responsibilities from an opposition to get something going. The literal only thing that can potentially stop this. You are quashing it.

I can't even. There are literally no words to express how disgusting your statements are.
LOL! Go back to school and learn History. Leaders are created thru hardships, crisis, bad times, and in some cases, activists who are standing up for what they believe in. Rarely do the leaders during a crisis of the magnetude of what we face today, come from those already in government leadership rolls. The United States would have never existed and broken away from Britian if that was the case. We would still be under British rule. Hitler would have never been stopped by the people of Germany, if that was the case (most of their party leaders where executed). If the leadership we need to get us out of this, existed in our government or party, right now, we wouldn't be here. You are putting your faith in the wrong place. The leaders who will pull us out of this, are walking among us, and not even realized yet. It's not the majority, of those who you claim, need to do something (current democrats), all though there are a handful, who are activily doing stuff, legally.
 
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Heartbreaker

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I for one am shocked that the people who thought forgiving student loans was excessive federal power have so little so say about masked government agents executing innocent US citizens in the street.

Calling them hypocrites would be understatement. They are fucking cowardly liars. Always were, and still are.

Trump could literally take off his failing human skin suit tomorrow, and reveal he's a demon sent to destroy the USA and the world, and they would still vote for his picks in the Midterms, to own the Libs and stop "woke".
 

Wreckem

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The Trump 33% are longer deplorables or facists. They are pure evil and complicit in the death of their fellow Americans if they continue to support Trump.

I also remember all that pearl clutching and trying to cancel people over pointing out the irony of Charlie Kirk’s death. These same people are now celebrating what were executions of multiple US citizens in a span of two weeks.
 
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brycejones

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The Trump 33% are longer deplorables or facists. They are pure evil and complicit in the death of their fellow Americans if they continue to support Trump.

I also remember all that pearl clutching and trying to cancel people over pointing out the irony of Charlie Kirk’s death. These same people are now celebrating what were executions of multiple US citizens in a span of two weeks.
You know it’s really horrific behavior when Tucker Carlson points out the hypocrisy.
 
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MrSquished

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As I said, it's clear you don't know your history. John Lewis wouldn't be punching me in the face if he was here today, because what is happening today, has never happened in this country before. He would know what I have said to be true, because he would be looking at the big picture, which you refuse to do. He wouldn't be setting up protests, setting up general strikes, breaking the law, as you believe the democrats should be doing. He would know, that it would put him behind bars with this adminstration, where he couldn't help the people of this country. You know, the actual topic, we are talking about that you keep maniulating and trying to change. John Lewis would be supporting the activists pushing for change, without activily organizing protests and general strikes. There is a difference, one is legal, one is not.. something you can't seem to grasp, so you lie and manipulate.

Once again, you are manipulating and lying. I never counted out peaceful opposition steps. I mearly gave you facts of why they can't organize protests and general strikes. Where you started lying and manipulating. Yet, you have not countered with anything other than calling me discusting, gross etc, along with straight up lying.

You tell me to man up.. well, here's the thing, I am not going to tell you that someone else would punch you in the face.. that is the definition of a pussy, someone who has to use others because they are not man enough themselves to stand up for what they believe and defend. But that isn't me, that's you. If we where talking face to face, where you flat out manipulated and lied about what I said, and was talking about, the conversation would not have continued, because you wouldn't be able too. you would be to busy picking your teeth and youself up off the ground. No man needs to use others to hide behind whether it be in text on a forum, or in person.

Now, I am not threatening you, I am mearly telling you what would have happened.. You don't know me, but let be clear, I am 100 times calmier in these forums than I am in person. I don't make threats.. never have, never will. I follow thru with what I say, and I don't hide behind others. So when I tell you that would have happened, you need to take it to heart. Stop lying, stop manipulating, and stop with the name calling. If you can't respond without doing so, then you need to not respond.. If you can, then counter what I actually said, tell us how they can do it, without this administration throwing them in jail, for breaking the law, which would not help the people.
This is why you are so stupid. What is happening right now in this country has not happened before but it has in history. My entire point. And you refuse to learn from it.

Again, you are lying. I acknowledged that you are not against peaceful protest, I am calling you out for absolving the sole opposition party from taking leadership actions. Fuck you and your disgusting rules that these 'legalities must be respected' even when it comes to peaceful protest against pure fascism. The exact thing that the Democrats did by enabling Trump 2.0 is playing by the old rules, and you want to encourage them to do the same. You rebuke them taking the mantle of leadership, which they already literally own, to inspire peaceful protest. That is simply, and frankly, obscene. You are gross. You are an enabler. You encourage the fascists to do what they are doing. You are complicit. You have blood on your hands.

It took me a long time to ever block anyone on here, but I eventually did for the lost like Greenman and PCGeek, but you are about to be next.

You are puke inducing. Literally.
 

UNCjigga

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I for one am shocked that the people who thought forgiving student loans was excessive federal power have so little so say about masked government agents executing innocent US citizens in the street.
Pepperidge Farm remembers when asking people to wear masks in public (in the midst of a deadly pandemic) was the height of tyranny.
 

Jaskalas

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...tell us how they can do it, without this administration throwing them in jail, for breaking the law, which would not help the people.
Like Nazi Germany, this admin is going jail people who oppose the systematic loss of civil rights and the murder of innocent civilians.

The man murdered by ICE today was not breaking the law. He was murdered anyway. Because he did something they did not like. He was filming their crimes. Putting ICE on the record so the law could one day hold ICE accountable for their crimes. That IS the peaceful, law abiding option. ICE responded with violence and murder.

We are past the point of the opposition "not breaking the law", because MAGA Nazis will still murder the innocent. Let alone use violence on them to beat them into submission.
With Nazis, peace was never an option. Our existence will be labeled unlawful until we all surrender and become slaves. Or, like 1940, they suffer loses in the millions and lose the war.

We are beyond politicians. So I do not fault them for not knowing what to do. Or how to raise a stink and garner greater public and world attention, while they still can. Eventually the media will not even allow them that. We have a limited window where voices in America can still be heard. They might as well scream unto the heavens as their final act. For the next move is armed conflict.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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The NRA and all the so-called defenders of the Second Amendment be like..

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I'm a very strong 2A proponent and I say fuck all this noise, even if he wasn't a lawful carry (which he was) it was still grossly illegal. We're heading toward a wall of violence at a thousand miles an hour and the brake lines are cut.
 
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