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cytg111

cytg111

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HomerJS said:
Trump was impeached twice first term but you need 67 in the Senate for removal and Republicans have no spine or moral core
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Yes. Suppose you got SO much power in the midterms that you could pull it off though. Senate votes to impeach.

Then what?
 
cytg111

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Greenman said:
That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
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Show us the clip where he was in danger for his life when he fired the shots? Even the first shot, he was out and to the side no?

This is what you get when the guys is not trained and have no accountability, not even a body camera. *THEY DO NOT KNOW WHEN LETHAL FORCE IS WARRANTED*. How could they. They're not trained.
 
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"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. George Orwell, 1984"

and they do so because they are fundamentally rotten to the core evil humans. They get off on this stuff - they are powered by pure evil hate.
 
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Interesting that NYT regularly is choosing to feature Venezuela on their front page story rather than the ICE shooting.
 
Jaskalas

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pete6032 said:
Interesting that NYT regularly is choosing to feature Venezuela on their front page story rather than the ICE shooting.
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To be fair... Americans are shot every single day. Gun violence, et al.

We have not chosen regime change for a nation since Saddam and Iraq, 2003. Especially not while enacting the colonial practice of claiming ownership of a nation and its people. Such notions of conquest are both Hitler-esq and an unfulfilled promise of far more death and destruction. It is the war of a nation against the very notion of civilization. If realized, it will be horrific, it will be evil.

OTOH, MAGA Nazi SS going around and murdering Americans is going to be increasingly common. To the point where we may not contain the violence. If the media is stunned by which existential crisis to cover, I wouldn't blame them. Either topic points America as a threat to world peace and stability. A rogue nation determined to cause as much death and destruction as Dear Leader's appetite allows.

Speaking of Dear Leader, Feds proclaim that no one has the authority to look into or investigate their murder of Americans. You have no rights, essentially.

Noem Says Minn. Officials 'Don't Have Any Jurisdiction'​

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009310641102966853
 
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This should "seal" it for everyone, this guy is prior right wing navy seal who went with the America First split from maga ... lots of conspiracies in his feed, but this should peel over any right wing with two brain cells intact

 
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cytg111 said:
This should "seal" it for everyone, this guy is prior right wing navy seal who went with the America First split from maga ... lots of conspiracies in his feed, but this should peel over any right wing with two brain cells intact

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Yeah I thought it was pretty obvious from the first videos in this thread that the guy fired from the side of the car, meaning the car was already past him and he was in zero danger of being run over.

Also, I have to lol at greenman saying left wingers are driven by hatred, he has so much hatred for immigrants that he thinks it's acceptable for armed and masked thugs with zero accountability to kill civilians as long as they're deporting people.
 
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VashHT said:
Also, I have to lol at greenman saying left wingers are driven by hatred, he has so much hatred for immigrants that he thinks it's acceptable for armed and masked thugs with zero accountability to kill civilians as long as they're deporting people.
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He pretends he's driven by logic and sense which somehow happen to arrive every time at the preferred opinions of a typical right wing Trump voting conservative. See it's just science!
 
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mindless1 said:
Ridiculous way to put it. I don't support, let alone applaud what happened but the shots were one after the other, no time to stop and gauge what effect the first one had.

I recognize why they did it and it was an inexcusable reaction considering their proximity and the delay of any possible effect on a moving vehicle that close. Due to that, if they absolutely had to fire a weapon to make a point for her to not behave that recklessly, then it should've been a warning shot, not a death sentence.

UNSUBSCRIBED because clearly this is another topic gone off the rails with false nonsense beyond the consensus that it never should've happened.
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It was an inexcusable execution. DOJs own rules do not allow shooting someone for leaving the scene unless agents life is in danger or person is a danger to the public.

Then DOJ lies about what happened on the scene. That’s called conscienceness of guilt
 
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Greenman said:
That's an interesting take on the situation, and probably what she was thinking. The reality is that she interfered in an ongoing and legal police action, ignored a legal order to step out of her vehicle when confronted by ICE agents, decided to flee rather than face arrest, and put an Ice agent at risk.
I think the shooting was unnecessary, but I wasn't the one looking at the car coming at me, nor did the agent have the benefit of three different viewing angles. The fellow had half a second to make a decision, I think he made the wrong one, but it's really easy say that sitting in my comfortable chair and watching it from 3 different perspective's.
A car is just a car until it's accelerating toward you, then it's a deadly weapon.
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what's interesting is how a pedophile Trump cuck like yourself shows up using this "Beta" language. lol. You think you're the Alpha in any room? You haven't managed to dislodge your wrinkled worm from Trump's brown tunnel over the last 10 years, and you're the alpha?

YOu think people are actualy interested in what a Nazi racist that very proudly endorses pedophiles thinks about how a murderous gestapo should just go about murdering innocent citizens?

History will remember you, and your friends, as fucking Nazis. Because that's what you have become, and everyone knows it. Your are no different from any old German that sat back and let Hitler do his thing because "it wasn't my fault! and he's not hurting me because I'm not a jew or a gypsy!" You are the exact same, and this is where history will place you. Congratulations, cuck.
 
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zinfamous said:
what's interesting is how a pedophile Trump cuck like yourself shows up using this "Beta" language. lol. You think you're the Alpha in any room? You haven't managed to dislodge your wrinkled worm from Trump's brown tunnel over the last 10 years, and you're the alpha?

YOu think people are actualy interested in what a Nazi racist that very proudly endorses pedophiles thinks about how a murderous gestapo should just go about murdering innocent citizens?

History will remember you, and your friends, as fucking Nazis. Because that's what you have become, and everyone knows it. Your are no different from any old German that sat back and let Hitler do his thing because "it wasn't my fault! and he's not hurting me because I'm not a jew or a gypsy!" You are the exact same, and this is where history will place you. Congratulations, cuck.
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You're wrong, he's like a nazi that cheered sending Jews to concentration camps. He's not stupid, he knew what he was voting for.
 
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