IBM Offers To Move Laid Off Workers To India

[halik]

Originally posted by: rchiu
You people need to get a clue. Indian wage for IT professional is awesome, maybe not as good as your average IT people in the US, but it is much better then the average local salary. And with that salary, you can live really well over there.

Go check out the living style of Indian IT professionals like the ones from Infosys, TATA consulting...etc. Just because average Indian salary is crap doesn't mean IT salary in India is crap.

Yeah Indian IT wages are awesome compared to other indian wages, simply because half of the country is in poverty... third world poverty.
Here's a fun exercise in futility : go and calculate what percentage of your income would consumer goods account for on indian salary. How much of your annual income would it take to buy that 40" LCD TV or a new car.... and don't even get me started on the quality of medical care.
As someone else pointed out, there's a reason why there are lines in India for U.S. H1B visa

I wonder, though, if that plan is set up to move all the H1B people back to their home nation - presumably only indian nationals would take the job and even that's a maybe.

I'm a former Czech national and there's no way I'd take a job in Czech on local salary... The Land of the Free > *

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: rchiu
You people need to get a clue. Indian wage for IT professional is awesome, maybe not as good as your average IT people in the US, but it is much better then the average local salary. And with that salary, you can live really well over there.

Go check out the living style of Indian IT professionals like the ones from Infosys, TATA consulting...etc. Just because average Indian salary is crap doesn't mean IT salary in India is crap.

Yeah Indian IT wages are awesome compared to other indian wages, simply because half of the country is in poverty... third world poverty.
Here's a fun exercise in futility : go and calculate what percentage of your income would consumer goods account for on indian salary. How much of your annual income would it take to buy that 40" LCD TV or a new car.... and don't even get me started on the quality of medical care.
As someone else pointed out, there's a reason why there are lines in India for U.S. H1B visa

I wonder, though, if that plan is set up to move all the H1B people back to their home nation - presumably only indian nationals would take the job and even that's a maybe.

I'm a former Czech national and there's no way I'd take a job in Czech on local salary... The Land of the Free > *

you might be on to something there. I know we had two (man and wife) Indian doctors in our small town. They lived here almost 20 years, even raised their kids here but then they sold out their practices and moved back to India to retire.

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

I've said for years that ANY company that sends American jobs to a foreign country should lose any tax breaks they get PLUS be taxed heavily for their services/products..

completely agree with ya.

also , bail out money shouldn't be used on any company as such.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
hmm, that doesnt sound like a bad idea actually. If they have to pay for the trip there and back, then you basically get a free vacation to India before you quit!

Also, I am sure you could slack of a little bit in India as like said before me, you are a highly skilled worker.....



Also, think of the women.

Dude that article said 'India' not 'Italy'

dude Indian women are the hottest in the world no question.. walk onto a college campus in India and it is perfect 10s one after another walking around. I used to rank them lowest until I went there it is insane

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
hmm, that doesnt sound like a bad idea actually. If they have to pay for the trip there and back, then you basically get a free vacation to India before you quit!

Also, I am sure you could slack of a little bit in India as like said before me, you are a highly skilled worker.....



Also, think of the women.

Dude that article said 'India' not 'Italy'

dude Indian women are the hottest in the world no question.. walk onto a college campus in India and it is perfect 10s one after another walking around. I used to rank them lowest until I went there it is insane

You just have low standards...

 

[Farang]

I'll eat moldy bread but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy caviar

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Farang
I'll eat moldy bread but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy caviar

Then, by all means, THESE should be perfect for you.

link fixed...I think. :roll:

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Zebo
Speechless. I'm glad I own a liquor store and have $75,000 worth of booze to drink through this nightmare so long as bank doesn't come take stock from me as my US Customers are exported to work in India.

Guess we know where to come when the zombies/apocalypse/(insert political party of your choice) has their way/etc come. I'll bring some guns and ammo, so we will be set.

I'll definitely need sentries, study up: http://www.usmcpress.com/heritage/general_orders.htm

No drinking ON DUTY! That'll be my job and the fishing part , deal? I mean someone HAS to feed us, right? Sacrifices I make...

I'll teach Skoorby how to clean them.

Our Women Folk can cook them like they should. Man - shooting, fishing, drinking, Zebo camp is sounding better by the minute actually.

 

[mxyzptlk]

I wish I could do my job from a 3rd world country.. I'd pick the Philippines, cuz my gf has family there, but India's just as good. Mark me down as another "it sounds like fun"


more fun than being jobless in America anyway.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Farang
I'll eat moldy bread but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy caviar

Then, by all means, http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2280592&enterthread=y should be perfect for you.

link failed

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I wish I could do my job from a 3rd world country.. I'd pick the Philippines, cuz my gf has family there, but India's just as good. Mark me down as another "it sounds like fun"


more fun than being jobless in America anyway.

You missed the part where they may be making local wages.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
hmm, that doesnt sound like a bad idea actually. If they have to pay for the trip there and back, then you basically get a free vacation to India before you quit!

Also, I am sure you could slack of a little bit in India as like said before me, you are a highly skilled worker.....



Also, think of the women.

Dude that article said 'India' not 'Italy'

dude Indian women are the hottest in the world no question.. walk onto a college campus in India and it is perfect 10s one after another walking around. I used to rank them lowest until I went there it is insane

Yeah right,
I don't think I've ever met an indian guy with high standards... brown people love err "voluptuous" womens (and im being generous here...)

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: rchiu
You people need to get a clue. Indian wage for IT professional is awesome, maybe not as good as your average IT people in the US, but it is much better then the average local salary. And with that salary, you can live really well over there.

Go check out the living style of Indian IT professionals like the ones from Infosys, TATA consulting...etc. Just because average Indian salary is crap doesn't mean IT salary in India is crap.

Yeah Indian IT wages are awesome compared to other indian wages, simply because half of the country is in poverty... third world poverty.
Here's a fun exercise in futility : go and calculate what percentage of your income would consumer goods account for on indian salary. How much of your annual income would it take to buy that 40" LCD TV or a new car.... and don't even get me started on the quality of medical care.
As someone else pointed out, there's a reason why there are lines in India for U.S. H1B visa

I wonder, though, if that plan is set up to move all the H1B people back to their home nation - presumably only indian nationals would take the job and even that's a maybe.

I'm a former Czech national and there's no way I'd take a job in Czech on local salary... The Land of the Free > *

Exactly, there's a lot more to standard of living than relative income. There are so many services and luxuries we enjoy in the US that just aren't available even in other first world nations.

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
hmm, that doesnt sound like a bad idea actually. If they have to pay for the trip there and back, then you basically get a free vacation to India before you quit!

Also, I am sure you could slack of a little bit in India as like said before me, you are a highly skilled worker.....



Also, think of the women.

Dude that article said 'India' not 'Italy'

dude Indian women are the hottest in the world no question.. walk onto a college campus in India and it is perfect 10s one after another walking around. I used to rank them lowest until I went there it is insane

You just have low standards...

no actually its true, Indian woman are hot these days because they are mostly mix, which almost always yeild better of both parents... IMO

but seriously, my friends went there a few years ago, and they were amazed... although , dispite their culture, the new generation of indian woman are no longer weak and obadient, they are strong and independent... kinda like how it is here...

poor us man...

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I wish I could do my job from a 3rd world country.. I'd pick the Philippines, cuz my gf has family there, but India's just as good. Mark me down as another "it sounds like fun"


more fun than being jobless in America anyway.

At least you are exempt from income tax... maybe Obama might notice you for a cabinet position.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I'll go to Brazil. Brazillian girls have hot assets.

 

[fornax]

Oh come on, Prague is one of my favorite European cities! Oh, the architecture, the girls and, of course, the beer!

Originally posted by: halik
I'm a former Czech national and there's no way I'd take a job in Czech on local salary... The Land of the Free > *

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I'm sure India's a decent place to live (at least in the larger cities), but come on, standard of living is not even comparable to the US.

i would imagine it smells like poop there.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: halik
[Yeah right,
I don't think I've ever met an indian guy with high standards... brown people love err "voluptuous" womens (and im being generous here...)

Uh, you are a bit too narrow minded that only your taste is 'right'. It's only right for you. Insulting people who aren't your taste makes you boorish.

 

[StageLeft]

I'm glad this thread has been sidetracked by talking about how ugly indian women are and how the cities smell.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'm glad this thread has been sidetracked by talking about how ugly indian women are and how the cities smell.

Never been there, so I don't know firsthand, but based on everything I've heard from those who have and what I've seen on TV, it's pretty much one of the last places on earth I'd even consider living. Yuk!

This kind of stuff is a tragedy for the country. Each company is making these kinds of decisions to "stay competitive" with other companies, but as a whole the US it shooting itself in the foot by doing this. Protectionism is not the answer, but there has to be a way to create good incentives for companies to keep jobs here rather than in some third world place like India.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'm glad this thread has been sidetracked by talking about how ugly indian women are and how the cities smell.

Never been there, so I don't know firsthand, but based on everything I've heard from those who have and what I've seen on TV, it's pretty much one of the last places on earth I'd even consider living. Yuk!

This kind of stuff is a tragedy for the country. Each company is making these kinds of decisions to "stay competitive" with other companies, but as a whole the US it shooting itself in the foot by doing this. Protectionism is not the answer, but there has to be a way to create good incentives for companies to keep jobs here rather than in some third world place like India.

Instead of flooding this country with the illegal immigrants whose only qualification is they can walk long distances we should revamp our "legal" immigration policy to let the kinds of workers we need in the country. The people who can't compete can pick the lettuce.... or start growing their own (which is what I have to do).