IBM 60GXP problem ---> Extremely poor construction!

Def

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I had an IBM 45GB 75GXP in my machine, and all was fine. Needed to upgrade the HD in the "mom machine" so I figured I'd just get a 60GXP and move the 75GXP in the other machine.

I get the drive, and immediately notice some really sloppy soldering, or lack thereof on the connecting pins and the power pins. I thought my 75GXP was bad, but this 60GXP has connecting pins that are barely attached the to PCB with solder. I then notice it was manufactured in the Phillipines as opposed to Romania for the 75GXP. Hrmmmm, going from bad to worse so far.

I finally manage to get the connector in, as the plastic piece was kinda poorly sized. At least they were keeping it consistent! :|

Anyway, after I transfer everything I unplug it and format the 75GXP. I try to plug back the 60GXP and am getting some major resistence. Check the pins, yep they're all going in the female connector. I try about 5 more times, and then just take a break. While sitting there, I hear a terrible terrible sound. A noticeable "pop". Look down and see that one of the connector pins has broken the almost nonexistant bit of solder. I try to futilely reposition the pin and get everything back together, but to no avail. :(

I've tried 6 times to get the pin to make contact on both the PCB and the female connector on the ATA-100 cable, but no go. Computer locks when searching for Primary master. :( I even put a nice 4inch gash in my arm trying to remove the connector once. Gotta love that cheap too-tight plastic of the 60GXP.

So what should I do guys? Should I try my hand at soldering back the pin and straightening it out? Or should I just try to RMA it with IBM? From what I can remember, my friend RMA'd a 45GB 75GXP and it took near 3 weeks to get a drive back from them. I don't have the time for that.

I'm really really disappointed in IBM. Not only did I get this shoddy construction with the 60GXP, but my 75GXP now has over 1.7MB of bad sectors!!! Maybe I should just RMA the drive but order a Western Digital or Seagate drive?
 

Def

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I guess this thing must be a bad egg.

It looks like a blind one-armed monkey did the soldering to the PCB. :|
 

zippy

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Umm...don't make stupid generalizations like that man. If every 60GXP was like that we would have heard about it long ago and IBM would be fscked. Mine is perfectly fine, it's fast, stable, in perfect condition.

You got a back one, sh!t happens, RMA it.
 

Daemon_UK

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Raspewtin,

What ever you do, GO GET ONE!!!

I have arrived in terms of HD Tech, hehe today I popped one in my system and,
Jesus I thought it was defective. I had to literally stop my CPU fans to hear it.

Also when accessing data, it makes the quietest seek and transfer noises ever!

Now, new topic. Where I can find the QUIETEST FANS :D
 

Def

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What stupid generalization would that be?

I just said I was disappointed in IBM, which I am. I don't see anything wrong with saying that after this happening.
 

zippy

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Every company has some bad eggs, it's impossible to catch all of them, so, you happened to be the (un)lucky recipeint of a bad one. If you're disappointed in IBM, you're saying that you should be disappointed in all manufacturers because RMA's happen with every kind of product. This is the first case that I've heard of where a 60GXP has gone bad, so perhaps saying that you're disappointed in IBM over one bad drive is a bit unfair. Why not just RMA it and go about your business like most people do?

Sh!t happens, it's when you get another bad 60GXP that you bitch and moan. ;)

BTW, the 75GXP is another story because hundreds of people here had problems.

But of course, that's my opinion. :p
 

Def

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Well, this "bad" one is pretty bad. I just leisurely unseated yet another connector pin with a finger. Not leveraging it or anything, just light pressure. It didn't even put up a fight. The dab of solder is so tiny it's not even funny. How do they expect that to hold down anything?

I just expect more from a $100 brand new HD. Kinda shakes your confidence in a manufacturer when a critical component physically breaks during routine installation. I must have installed/uninstalled my 75GXP a hundred times without any problems.

Let's hope the RMA doesn't take too long.