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jtisgeek

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it's more like ...

Boss: I want the best machine in this building so I can stare down any respectable employee here with an air of superiority and power!! Money is no object!

IT Guy: Yes, master.

Not at all like that whats wrong with having a bad ass computer.

Money is always a object but compared to a sever or the high end work station we use the build was very cheap going to build more.:twisted: My Dual quad is very slow in excel.
 

Rubycon

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That board does not support ECC officially. It may work with a Xeon CPU but again - unsupported. (meaning if it works great if not you just wasted money!)

A UPS OTOH - chances are you WILL encounter a disruptive power anomaly vs. a DRAM error that goes undetected messing up something. Power can fail at any time - something as silly as a klutz tripping over a power cord. Coffee pot heater running at the same time as a microwave along with a secretary's under the desk space heater on a cold morning. CB trips - boom! PC shuts off when you're in the middle of the most important tasks with megabytes or stuff in your clipboard - all gone!

A UPS is paramount at work.
 

jtisgeek

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That board does not support ECC officially. It may work with a Xeon CPU but again - unsupported. (meaning if it works great if not you just wasted money!)

A UPS OTOH - chances are you WILL encounter a disruptive power anomaly vs. a DRAM error that goes undetected messing up something. Power can fail at any time - something as silly as a klutz tripping over a power cord. Coffee pot heater running at the same time as a microwave along with a secretary's under the desk space heater on a cold morning. CB trips - boom! PC shuts off when you're in the middle of the most important tasks with megabytes or stuff in your clipboard - all gone!

A UPS is paramount at work.

Yeah intel only enables ecc on Xeons only to make you spend that money. Has to already be in the chip.


Yes everything should have a ups now days comes in handy.
 

Shmee

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now u must oc it more and poast benchmarks. And grats on the build!
 

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Not at all like that whats wrong with having a bad ass computer.

Money is always a object but compared to a sever or the high end work station we use the build was very cheap going to build more.:twisted: My Dual quad is very slow in excel.

don't take it to heart, but when I worked in my last job, my boss always get himself something nicer even know we use it way more. I think he needs to feel that 'power'. anyhow, we buy them premade from Dell so nothing too exciting. it's nice that your company build your own. maybe you need to build one for yourself and let us know how it runs and overclocks. :]
 

jtisgeek

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don't take it to heart, but when I worked in my last job, my boss always get himself something nicer even know we use it way more. I think he needs to feel that 'power'. anyhow, we buy them premade from Dell so nothing too exciting. it's nice that your company build your own. maybe you need to build one for yourself and let us know how it runs and overclocks. :]

Yeah we don't build much just for me and the rest of I.T . I don't think am going to get one anytime soon. Probably our lead developer.

Yeah I understand the power to be the best cause your the boss. Sadly I think I would be the same when in his shoes .
 
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Dark Shroud

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Some of you guys jumping on this build need to take the time to read what the PC is being used for.

For programming & video work the i7 980 is worth the money in the long run. That's also when you need more than 4Gb-6Gb of ram as well.

I've never been a fan of Rapters, SCSI fanboy here. But the price vs size still makes them viable until SSDs can match. Granted you can short stoke some of the new WD Caviar Blacks but that is a major pia.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/short-stroking-hdd,2157.html

I'm going with the Asus Rampage Gene paired with the Asus U3S6. It will save me around $250. Instead of going with a ASUS P6X58D and an add-on X-FI card.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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Ermm...against the newest generation hard drives, the only area where velociraptors see any kind of benefit are in random access, where they typically double the access times of conventional hard drives. But then, if random throughput is so important to you, why not just get a single 40GB SSD for your OS or applications?
 

jtisgeek

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Ermm...against the newest generation hard drives, the only area where velociraptors see any kind of benefit are in random access, where they typically double the access times of conventional hard drives. But then, if random throughput is so important to you, why not just get a single 40GB SSD for your OS or applications?

You guys don't get it need more size. Plus data protection and speed of raid 1+0 in case something goes wrong

Sdd's are not even close on this reguard mostly because of size vs price.
 
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jtisgeek

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Some of you guys jumping on this build need to take the time to read what the PC is being used for.

For programming & video work the i7 980 is worth the money in the long run. That's also when you need more than 4Gb-6Gb of ram as well.

I've never been a fan of Rapters, SCSI fanboy here. But the price vs size still makes them viable until SSDs can match. Granted you can short stoke some of the new WD Caviar Blacks but that is a major pia.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/short-stroking-hdd,2157.html

I'm going with the Asus Rampage Gene paired with the Asus U3S6. It will save me around $250. Instead of going with a ASUS P6X58D and an add-on X-FI card.

I was always a big scsi fan also still have some older severs with ultra wide 320 with like 6 drives they can still throw down.
 

Makaveli

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Remember this is not a gaming pc we need the 12 gb and need data protection and speed of the raid.

Sorry my bad I didn't catch that.

I would still go the SSD route + spinners if need be for the RAID.
 

jtisgeek

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Sorry my bad I didn't catch that.

I would still go the SSD route + spinners if need be for the RAID.

I mean don't get me wrong I would like to see how some sdd's in the real world would compare but for equal size I was looking at almost 700 dollars more which doesn't make since.

Am also not sold on sdd's on how they can stand up to large amount of data over the long run.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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You guys don't get it need more size plus data protection of 10 in case something going do this is not for games.

Sdd's are not even close on this re-guard.
Can you run that past me again...so that it actually makes sense?
 

Dark Shroud

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I was always a big scsi fan also still have some older severs with ultra wide 320 with like 6 drives they can still throw down.

I worked with them a bit. But I could never afford them for my own systems. I rarely bring up SCSI drives anymore in conversation because I then have to spend several minutes explaining what they are and I don't care to have them compared to SSD drives. I used to sigh when people would boast to me about their IDE Raptor drives.

Sorry my bad I didn't catch that.

I would still go the SSD route + spinners if need be for the RAID.

There are a few problems with SSDs in these situtaions.
-TRIM does not work through RAID yet.
-Size vs Price
-Performance variables / unknowns in the long run.

Velecorapters have been around a while. We know how they're going to react in a RAID environment for long term use. SSDs need TRIM to contune functioning. So that puts a halt right there with the RAID set-up.

And yes if I could afford a 250 gig Intel or Sandforce SSD I would buy it in a heart beat for my gaming rig.
 
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Makaveli

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I worked with them a bit. But I could never afford them for my own systems. I rarely bring up SCSI drives anymore in conversation because I then have to spend several minutes explaining what they are and I don't care to have them compared to SSD drives. I used to sigh when people would boast to me about their IDE Raptor drives.



There are a few problems with SSDs in these situtaions.
-TRIM does not work through RAID yet.
-Size vs Price
-Performance variables / unknowns in the long run.

Velecorapters have been around a while. We know how they're going to react in a RAID environment for long term use. SSDs need TRIM to contune functioning. So that puts a halt right there with the RAID set-up.

And yes if I could afford a 250 gig Intel or Sandforce SSD I would buy it in a heart beat for my gaming rig.

Its funny you mention that about the raptors, i've seen people having issues with them in RAID. I also believe even WD direct users to purchase the RE drives for a raid setup.
 

aigomorla

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lol.... pray ur boss doesnt see my 980X.

You probably couldnt make sense of how to build mine unless it was sitting in front of you.
 

beginner99

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I mean don't get me wrong I would like to see how some sdd's in the real world would compare but for equal size I was looking at almost 700 dollars more which doesn't make since.

Am also not sold on sdd's on how they can stand up to large amount of data over the long run.

A 40 or 80 gb intel for OS + apps and put all the data on 2 large "normal" hdd's in raid (or for for raid10 but not sure if really needed for data only). No need to raid the ssd with only os and apps on it. So you get trim assuming your boss is actually running win 7.

Another question:

Is this "I'm the boss I need super Hardware and login to all possible application I never use and wouldn't understand anyway" thing typical let's say anglo-american style?
It's annoyning. Especially for apps that easly cost much more than the hardware itself.
 

jtisgeek

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A 40 or 80 gb intel for OS + apps and put all the data on 2 large "normal" hdd's in raid (or for for raid10 but not sure if really needed for data only). No need to raid the ssd with only os and apps on it. So you get trim assuming your boss is actually running win 7.

Another question:

Is this "I'm the boss I need super Hardware and login to all possible application I never use and wouldn't understand anyway" thing typical let's say anglo-american style?
It's annoyning. Especially for apps that easly cost much more than the hardware itself.

I would never do a single drive for the os either cause it takes to much time to get everything back. Spend the money for a mirror at least.


Our whole business is windows 7 and sever 08r2 other than some random boxes.
 

aigomorla

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How crazy is it bunch of water stuff?

you decide:

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zuffy

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You keep talking about RAID but all that is useless if you don't have a backup plan implemented. All the RAID is gonna protect you from is disk failure.