i7 920 H20 setup

[daw123]

Originally posted by: WoodButcher

Originally posted by: daw123

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN

Originally posted by: aigomorla
if its for f@H do everything.

Mosfet, nb, and south bridge, to keep the stress low on the system.

However its gonna eat a TON of flow, so you need to plan it out right.

Also will cost a lot :X

CPU block, the GTZ and the KL-350 get my vote, however they both like to be on its own loop.

Would the 350 be too much for a 655 Swiftech?

BTRY, if you're going to be running multiple loops (one for the CPU, the other for everything else), you are going to really struggle for space in that case, unless you do what Woodbutcher did and butcher (pardon the pun) the case.

Woodbutcher's case before.
Woodbutcher's case after.

What about using a Swiftech 355 pump and XSPC res and top with the Koolance 350 and using the Swiftech 655 pump for the other loop (Mosfets, NB and SB) ?

Aigo, just out of interest can you stack rads on top of each other, something like this?

Yeah, I'm a hack, I admit it. :laugh:

Stacking will work, basically this is what I did with that case but the rads are not together. I have air coming in the rad on the bottom and out the other two. Use rads with few fins per inch like the TC, Feser or XSPC (which I just ordered 2 with the paint disclaimer:Q that I didn't need!) and fans with good static pressure. I'd be inclined to use push - pull with a third fan in the middle, all three being the same fan, maybe yates. I don't know, just random ideas floating around in my head and when they bump into that last brain cell they sort of just spew out.

ROFL. I have that feeling quite often.

This was what I was planning to do, but instead of the rads/fans being on the outside of the case as shown in my previous sktech, they would be inside.

btw the top 360mm long rad and fans are already installed, so I would essentially be adding to whats already there. What do you think?

 

[daw123]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Thanks for the offer but I'm all good :beer: I kinda have an idea, it just comes down to having the parts and seeing how they fit with their dimensional footprint. I think this may be a project for way down the road. I'm really thinking about a UD3R or P series board for my Q9650. 500fsb with this Maximus II Formula is a joke. Bad board design. So, that means i have to get my RMA going. 25th it expires.... You can really feel the difference at 500fsb. I'm running it on my 8400 (7x500) and its nice!!!

The Gigabyte boards seem to be pretty good. Have you had a look in the Motherboards section to see what others think of them (specifically the UD3 series).

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah, been reading some posts on the XS forums and its unanimous. The UD3 series are the best of the best for lga 775. Not sure which one I want though. I never use Xfire so the "R" wouldn't be a bad choice, but they are so close in price its almost stupid not to get the "P"

EDIT: i've got the "R" in the cart at egg, almost pulled it 20 min ago, tee hee.

EDIT 2: I probably should go with the P model as I might hopefully get the latest revision of that board. Other problem is, I also have the UD5 1366 board and 1600 DDR3 in my wish list and its soooo temping to just pull the trigger. :gift: to me

 

[daw123]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Yeah, been reading some posts on the XS forums and its unanimous. The UD3 series are the best of the best for lga 775. Not sure which one I want though. I never use Xfire so the "R" wouldn't be a bad choice, but they are so close in price its almost stupid not to get the "P"

EDIT: i've got the "R" in the cart at egg, almost pulled it 20 min ago, tee hee.

EDIT 2: I probably should go with the P model as I might hopefully get the latest revision of that board. Other problem is, I also have the UD5 1366 board and 1600 DDR3 in my wish list and its soooo temping to just pull the trigger. :gift: to me

Go on, you know you want to

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What would you recommend for a 1366 board?

 

[daw123]

From what I read the UD5 board is one of the best you can get. It's the one that I'm buying.

At the moment I'm searching the net for UK sellers to get the best deal on the MB and RAM. The MB seems to be all about the same price (within $20 of each other), but the RAM seems to vary greatly (about $50). I'm going for 6GB 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DIMMs

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

sold!

 

[daw123]

Good for you. Are you still going for 4GHz on the 920? i think the UD5 will give you the best chance of reaching that target. Fingers crossed you got a cherry chip.

I'm not going to be able to get my rig working until Intel release the I7 950, which I'm hoping will be within the next 4 weeks or so. Come on Intel, you have a customer waiting

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Not until I get my H20 setup for it. It'll just have to be after my income tax and we'll see how well my TRUE does with it. I'm going to add on those fans from ebay with the add on fan brackets.... Whats the details on the 950? I'm sure it'll be a great chip! After the D0's come out, they'll all be like cream butter!

 

[daw123]

From what I've read the 950 is D0 stepping and will run at 3.06GHz stock as opposed to the 2.93GHz of the 940. I think all they've done is changed the CPU multiplier from 22x to 23x, which is good because its upwards-locked, meaning if I ramp up BCLK from 133MHz to 200MHz thats 4.6GHz! They are also supposedly better overclockers than the C0 stepping.

Edit: Hope you pay as little to the IRS (tax aversion, not evasion) as you can on your tax return. If they are anything like the UK Inland Revenue, they deserve it.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Nice!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I don't have the $$$ for multiple loops. I need a small footprint this time and that micro.res is going to make the cut. I like the performance of the XSPC but I can still manage a 355 in the case with the micro. I think it might be the 350 KL, 355 or 655 if it will do the job, and the micro res. Now, all I have to do is get my taxes together, lol.

use all low restriction parts then, and try to keep your flow rate over 1gpm.

Use a single large class radiator, or try to line up serial.

1 655 will probably be enough if you pick low restriction stuff.

The XSPC Rev.3 block might be a better choice for you.

 

[daw123]

BTRY and Aigo. What about putting two 655s in serial and use the Feser X-Changer 480mm Xtreme Performance Radiator. Would that get sufficient (large) surface area on the rad with a sufficiently (high) flow rate?

Edit: Sorry, I just noticed the cost of that rad - $168. Christ, it would be cheaper running 2x 360mm long Swiftech MCR320s (if you can find a space inside or outside the case for them).

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I thought about running 2 655's also... not sure man, sorry but i don't see why not.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: daw123
BTRY and Aigo. What about putting two 655s in serial and use the Feser X-Changer 480mm Xtreme Performance Radiator. Would that get sufficient (large) surface area on the rad with a sufficiently (high) flow rate?

Edit: Sorry, I just noticed the cost of that rad - $168. Christ, it would be cheaper running 2x 360mm long Swiftech MCR320s (if you can find a space inside or outside the case for them).

usually when you go dual pumps, your after:

1. redudancy
2. pressure.

655 loses to the 355 in pressure, and the 355 is smaller in size.

So i usually dont recomend dualing up 655's.

 

[daw123]

I've had a think BTRY. If you run with dual pumps (say the Swiftech 355) and two rads (say Swiftech MCR320s), then you might as well bite the bullet and pay for an additional res, extra tubing and barbs and run two separate loops, since you will have to buy the blocks for the CPU, NB, SB, etc. any way.

I was bored so here's some costings for two loops:
2x Swiftech 355 pumps: $132 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
2x Swiftech MCR320s: $96 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
2x XSPCs res and tops: $80 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
2x G3/8" to G1/4" Adapter (to fit in res for fill ports): $16 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
24x G1/4 Fat Boy Barbs: $60 (from Sidewinder / Petras) I hope my arithmetic is correct
13-23mm worm-drive clamps: $10.80 (3x pack of 10)
20"x Masterkleer 7/16" ID tubing: $11.80 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
2x Danger Den Delrin Fillports: $26 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
CPU: 1x Koolance 350: $88 (from Frozen CPU)
Mosfets 1&2: 2x Koolance MVR-100: $50 (from Performance-PCs) Assumed that this will fit
Mosfet 3: 1x Koolance MVR-40: $30 (from Performance-PCs) Assumed that this will fit
SB & NB: 2x Swiftech MCW30 Chipset Cooler $50 (from Sidewinder / Petras) Assumed that this will fit
Distilled water, additives (pentosin & PT Nuke): say $15
2x 1/2" copper PEX T-fittings thrown in for good measure: $5.62 (from here)

Grand total for two separate loops: $671.22 Again, I hope my maths is correct

NB: The above does not include two T-lines (one for each res):
2x 1/2" copper PEX T-fittings: $5.62
2x G1/4 Aqua Computer Ball valve: $13 (from Sidewinder / Petras)
2x G1/4 Fat Boy Barbs: $5
3"x Masterkleer 7/15" ID tubing: $1.77
Sub total: $25.39 (revised grand total: $696.61)

btw, this is a thread over at Xtreme Systems for a bloke trying to find blocks which will fit the NB, SB and Mosfets on his GA-X58-UD5. This was back in December 2008, so it may be worth PMing him to find out which ones he used in the end (if you choose to go with the UD5). Aigo also posted in this thread under the name NaeKuh. If you find out, I would be interested to know.

Edit: None of the costs include shipping, additional taxes, discounts, blah blah...

Edit: Just noticed that I said that the Masterkleer tubing is 7/15" - it should read 7/16". I don't want to confuse any other noobs (like myself). They may waste a lot of time trying to source 7/15" tubing

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Wow, that actually helps me out on making a decision. For some reason I keep thinking all I really need is a pump, rad, and res...

That case is really small, and I don't think I'll be doing as much. If my taxes are enough, I'll just start off with one loop and see how it looks. It's funny, my shittiest case will soon be housing my best system! That's how I like it - lol

 

[daw123]

No problem.

I think $700 is about right for two completely separate loops (or $350 all in for each loop). I may have accidentally missed some stuff from that list (and I'm sure Aigo or somebody else will chime in if I have).

The hardest thing will be finding blocks which will fit the UD5's NB, SB and Mosfets. You will probably have to use a mixture of manufacturers to get it to work. If you do find out exactly which blocks to use can you please let me know, so that I know what to buy for my second loop (some time in the future once I've recovered financially from the expense of the I7 components).

Edit: Re-wrote the above bolded request to BTRY. The original version seemed a bit harsh/demanding after I re-read it. Sorry BTRY.

 

[daw123]

BTRY, I forgot to ask. Is your newer case which houses the Q9650 larger (with a removable MB tray)?

If so, it may be worthwhile putting the I7 rig in this and modding the older case for the Q9650 rig. Then you have more space to play with for the second loop (when you come to build it).

Also if it has a removable MB tray you should be able to remove everything without disturbing the liquid cooling system (this is what I'll do when I install the I7 MB, CPU, etc.). In fact I think the EK Supreme has the holes for LGA775 and LGA1366 on the same bracket, i.e. I won't have to remove the block to replace the bracket.

Its just a suggestion.

 

[aigomorla]

WOW...

i turned 2 people in this thread into water whores. ROFL...

grabbing 350 for a loop, is more then decient, its boarderline obsesed. :X

You can pull it off for 100 dollars less.

 

[daw123]

Yup, we've been Aigo'd.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
WOW...

i turned MANY people on this forum into water whores. ROFL...

Fixed for ya.

 

[aigomorla]

dude i so warned ya on the addiction of a well built system.

You cant say u went in half blind.

Gillbot on the other is a victim of...

GILL LOOK THIS IS FUN TRY IT! *mail*

:X

 

[daw123]

Aigo,

Do you know if the following fit the GA-X58-UD5?
Mosfets 1&2: 2x Koolance MVR-100
Mosfet 3: 1x Koolance MVR-40
SB & NB: 2x Swiftech MCW30 Chipset Cooler

These all seem to be very generic blocks, which will fit most MBs. Knowing my luck the UD5 will be the exception.

This was just from the suggestions in the Xtreme Systems thread I linked to previously.

As far as I'm aware this is the MB BTRY is wanting to buy as well, so it is pertient to this thread as well as for my own information.

 

[aigomorla]

do you honestly need to watercool it tho?

Are you a F@Her? or a WCGer?