i7 4790k heat issue

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EliteRetard

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And there may be an even better way to expand the hole, perhaps a dremel, I don't know. One thing I was just thinking, if you do use bolts and washers like I did, you can probably cut the slot using a hacksaw from the end. Like I said, the material is fairly thick and strong, and along with a washer I don't think it would hurt to have an open "fork" instead of a slot.
 

LTC8K6

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Very few people are going to do that, though. Especially people who are new to the game.

It's bad enough just having to bolt a heat sink mount on to the board, especially if your case has no cutout to allow access. Then you have to take the board out.

And your board warranty is gone if you mod the mount holes. And one slip and your board is gone as a SMD goes flying... :biggrin:

Something that uses the standard push pins is probably best for most people.

The TS15A, or the CM Hyper TX3/Evo, etc.

If they want to try to overclock a 4790K, they need at least a 212evo or a Noctua tower, or similar, and they need to know about adjusting chip voltages.

But really, they need a water block type of cooler to run a 4790K at any decent overclock.

Overclocking Haswell chips is not for noobs. :)
 

VirtualLarry

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Overclocking Haswell chips is not for noobs. :)

Well, maybe 4790K Haswells... tell the n00bs to get a G3258 (like me :) ), it even comes with a factory cooler with push-pins, sufficient to OC to like 4.2-4.4 (depending on voltage). I've got mine at 4.0Ghz and 1.200V, runs fairly cool (75C max TJ temps).

But yeah, if I ever got a 4790K, I might just run it at stock, or stock + MCE. 4.4Ghz Haswell is enough for me. I don't need 4.7Ghz, at elevated volts and temps.
 

LTC8K6

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Well, maybe 4790K Haswells... tell the n00bs to get a G3258 (like me :) ), it even comes with a factory cooler with push-pins, sufficient to OC to like 4.2-4.4 (depending on voltage). I've got mine at 4.0Ghz and 1.200V, runs fairly cool (75C max TJ temps).

But yeah, if I ever got a 4790K, I might just run it at stock, or stock + MCE. 4.4Ghz Haswell is enough for me. I don't need 4.7Ghz, at elevated volts and temps.

I have a G3258 and I have had it at 4.8ghz on the stock copper core Haswell cooler. :D

I didn't leave it there, though. :biggrin:

I run my 4790K at the turbo core speed, 4.4Ghz, with 2133 ram.

It's blazing fast at that point already. I had a 212Evo on it, but I tried out the TS15A just for kicks. It was not as good.
 
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sammykhalifa

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I have a G3258 and I have had it at 4.8ghz on the stock copper core Haswell cooler. :D

I didn't leave it there, though. :biggrin:

I run my 4790K at the turbo core speed, 4.4Ghz, with 2133 ram.

It's blazing fast at that point already. I had a 212Evo on it, but I tried out the TS15A just for kicks. It was not as good.

That was kinda my thought too. It seems like a lot of effort to go from, I don't know . . . . 4.4 to 4.6Ghz or something. I understand that part of it is just the fun of doing it, but real-world I'm not sure I'd ever notice unless I looked inside the HWMonitor.
 

PPB

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Another option if you are size constrained is to adapt a GPU cooler an repurpose it into a CPU one. I got a Thermalright Shaman that I'm about to land into my 4790K, with a 15mm cooler it will make a 53mm total height, and its equipped with 8 6mm heatpipes!
 

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I am not interested in overclock but I like to run this cpu 24*7 hours total rendering

What about AIO water cooling? I have custom water cooling for my 4790k below so I don't really have a problem. For $100 or less a quality AIO cooling unit should handle your problems.
 

EliteRetard

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Very few people are going to do that, though. Especially people who are new to the game.

It's bad enough just having to bolt a heat sink mount on to the board, especially if your case has no cutout to allow access. Then you have to take the board out.

And your board warranty is gone if you mod the mount holes. And one slip and your board is gone as a SMD goes flying... :biggrin:

Something that uses the standard push pins is probably best for most people.

The TS15A, or the CM Hyper TX3/Evo, etc.

If they want to try to overclock a 4790K, they need at least a 212evo or a Noctua tower, or similar, and they need to know about adjusting chip voltages.

But really, they need a water block type of cooler to run a 4790K at any decent overclock.

Overclocking Haswell chips is not for noobs. :)

What?

You don't do anything to your MOBO. You're simply widening the holes on the cooler legs. Then you can clip it in like any stock cooler without removing the MOBO.
 

LTC8K6

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Okay, I must have misunderstood you. I'm not really a fan of modding heat sink mounts, anyway. I'd rather just have something that fits properly as is.

For the 4790K, the push pin coolers just can't apply enough pressure for overclocking duty. You have to have something that clamps down pretty good.

Also, the weight of the cooler gets to be too much for the push pins, that's why they go to the bolts/screws. I forgot about the weight factor.

I'll probably just bolt my 212evo back on, and be right back where I started from, with a replacement 4790K.

And I don't know anything about screwdrivers knocking SMDs off of boards. :D
 

EliteRetard

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That's one advantage of this vapor chamber cooler, it's light at like 450 grams (1lb).
The old stock C2D copper cooler was like 400 grams and I think the low profile one is like 300 grams. The 212 Evo is like 600 grams (1.3lbs) and other towers can exceed 700 grams.

The 212 is a good cooler and priced fair, and it fits most ATX cases.
 

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installed cooler master hyper 212X

when cpu idle the temp is 39-45 'c

when cpu full load ( rendering ) the temp is 65-72 ' c

is it good or bad ?

is that ok to run the cpu rendering continuously in that temp
 

ShintaiDK

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You could run the CPU at 100C 24/7 year after year and it would be fine. The only issue would be if it throttled.

Sub 75C is very good.
 

PPB

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Try to run your processor in the 60c range. IDC showed good power consumptiom gains with your cpu if you lower the temps in his tests. Running your proccy at 100c is nothing but unresponsible and leaves you at the mercy of any weather change. Hot aummer day and you will be in tjmax temperatures.
 

Magic Carpet

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Try to run your processor in the 60c range. IDC showed good power consumptiom gains with your cpu if you lower the temps in his tests. Running your proccy at 100c is nothing but unresponsible and leaves you at the mercy of any weather change. Hot aummer day and you will be in tjmax temperatures.
I am fully aware of these things, but I am reluctant to modify my fully passive setup. It gets to throttle very nicely when it reaches those temps, so I don't see it as a big issue, considering the circumstances. Don't really care about power consumption in a desktop environment, nor the longevity of the chip. The sooner it dies, the quicker I get a new toy to play with.

I used to abuse a Thuban with extremely high temps, and it has gone thru 3 motherboards now but still alive and kicking. Temp isn't really an issue at stock clocks, high voltage is. 4770k has been at 4.2 stock volts over a year now, no issues. Can't justify buying a quad skylake yet.
 
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