i7 4790k heat issue

[Nothingness]

6700K with TS15A. Low 30% fanspeed as max (1500rpm) and it never breaks 80C no matter what load at stock.

Even with latest prime95 with AVX2 or IntelBurnTest?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Even with latest prime95 with AVX2 or IntelBurnTest?

Prime95 28.7? Yes.

 

[rsp]

How about this

Cooler Master Hyper 212X Cooler

 

[Techhog]

Even with latest prime95 with AVX2 or IntelBurnTest?

I would strongly recommend waiting for an opinion from someone else instead of just listening to that one.

 

[crashtech]

If the OP returns, I would ask that he provide us with Vcore value under load. The motherboard may be overvolting the CPU, if the board has some voltage adjustments, manually lowering it might help.

 

[EliteRetard]

Get rid of the stock heatsink, first.

Get Intel's new cooler:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013U542QE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

http://hexus.net/tech/news/cooling/85604-intel-ts15a-lga1151-twice-size-retail-lga1150-cooler/

LOL!

That aint no new cooler, it's a super old cooler modified for the new socket.
This design is from the 1366 socket, while an even bigger better one is from the old 775 socket.

And here's the old socket 775 one next to the stock 4790k cooler:

Now the 775 one next to the 1366:

It's clear Intel has been seriously downsizing coolers for generations, to the point now where they don't even include coolers anymore. The 775 one aint just a chunk of metal either, it's got a phase change vapor chamber in the middle.

When I got my 4790k I found the stock cooler severely overwhelmed at stock speed. I got instant thermal throttle under any kind of load situation. People kept insisting I was doing it wrong, that I was overvolting overclocking etc, and that 100+c wasn't "really" throttling. LOAD OF CRAP.

Problem was I needed a cooler that didn't much exceed the socket size. I knew the old Intel coolers were vastly superior, but decided to try a newfangled heat-pipe cooler in the form of a scythe shuriken. Unfortunately it suffers from some design flaws and was barely any more effective than the stock cooler (poor heat-pipe contact, and low heatsink surface area).

Compared to my old stock Intel coolers even the shuriken seemed insignificant...so I looked at the socket specs and realized that the mounting systems were all the same, with only a slightly different square mounting pattern. That meant all one had to do to fit any stock Intel cooler was to tap out the mounting hole by a few mm in one direction or the other.

And that's exactly what I did. I removed the clips, drilled out the hole a tiny bit and then used some bolts and rubber washers to mount the old cooler. MASSIVE upgrade. Went from throttling at 100+c to full speed max stress loads under 80c. Best part is the RPM range on the fan (Delta made) goes from like 500 to "OVER 9,000!" so it's runs silent at idle but has headroom for higher clocks.

Did I mention I was trying to do this for an ITX system in an SG05? Well anyway, that's the reason I couldn't exceed the socket size for the cooler. Unfortunately the old 775 cooler was just a hair bigger than the new socket, but I was able to modify it to fit by bending some fins over. Used some rubber bands after that to hold the fins snug so they wouldn't rattle. I was even lucky enough to have a potato to take pics with at the time...so here they are:

Case slightly modded to allow air to flow in front and straight out back. PSU inverted to pull cool air from vents in the top.

Will it beat a Hyper 212+? Highly doubt it. Will it beat any other lower profile stock sized cooler? As far as I know, yes. And in performance mode with fan control it can be very quiet at idle...competitive with the sound from the SG05 fans (zero fan on GTX970).

Best part is, these coolers are still available for purchase at a reasonably low price. Half that of the suggested $40-50 of the "new" smaller Intel cooler.

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-intel-d99136-001-DP807A50-DTC-AAS10/dp/B007QFRN52

 

[EliteRetard]

I guess I should mention, even after tapping out the holes in that old 775 cooler, I could have put the plastic clips back in and used them. There is no requirement for the bolts...it was just something I chose to do since I knew the system was going to be unchanged once it was setup and good. Also, in case people didn't know, you can remove and replace the push clips in case you break one. Like these here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...GA-Socket-775-CPU-Cooler-Fans/2048151885.html
http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Mounting-Clip-Intel-Coolers/dp/B00E0HD0S8

 

[ShintaiDK]

LOL!

That aint no new cooler, it's a super old cooler modified for the new socket.
This design is from the 1366 socket, while an even bigger better one is from the old 775 socket.

Its not the same cooler.

 

[EliteRetard]

Its not the same cooler.

Not "exactly", no. But as I said it basically is the same thing, just modified for the newer socket.

And here's an image of it next to the old good stock cooler:

But at $30-50 or whatever for the "new" one, I'd rather get the even older 775 vapor cooler for $15-20:

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its about equal to claim they are all Orb coolers. Or that all tower coolers are pretty much the same.

TS15A got a heatpipe system. The others just a copper core.

 

[EliteRetard]

Its about equal to claim they are all Orb coolers. Or that all tower coolers are pretty much the same.

TS15A got a heatpipe system. The others just a copper core.

I think you missed the sarcasm tag, looks like this: LOL

Also, you are incorrect:

Phase change vapor chamber as I said. Similar tech used on high end video cards to cool hundreds of watts.

I actually have a second one of these and they are cheap enough I am strongly debating un-soldering the seal and trying various amounts and types of fluids inside (re-soldering after filling). Unfortunately I have absolutely no skills or equipment. Perhaps I can send $20 to IDC to buy one since he seems to be the pro bench tester.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, it's definitely way better than the stock cooler.

 

[LTC8K6]

AFAIK, a phase change vapor chamber is a type of heat pipe, so it has a heat pipe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pipe#Heat_Pipe_Materials_and_Working_Fluids

 

[EliteRetard]

AFAIK, a phase change vapor chamber is a type of heat pipe, so it has a heat pipe.

I wont dispute that, but I think you get a better mental picture using them separately. When you say heatpipe most people think of the multiple thin tubes you see in tower heatsinks. When you say phase change vapor chamber you cant really help but think of a large hollow cavity filled with some liquid/gas (exactly what it is).

 

[LTC8K6]

Actually, I have been saying the TS15A has a heat pipe because that's what reviewers are saying.

 

[EliteRetard]

Actually, I have been saying the TS15A has a heat pipe because that's what reviewers are saying.

And I'm not arguing it at all, my only point was that the design looks extremely similar to older Intel coolers (and thus not really "new") which are also cheaper to buy (and possibly bigger/better). I haven't seen one of these "new" ones cut open.

But if you need a cooler better than the current "modern" crap stock Intel heatsink, and have $35+ to spend then a tower will probably beat this "new" Intel cooler. But at under $20 you can get one of the older very similar heatsinks and get good bang for the buck. Unless you have a specific situation (like I did) where you can't fit most heatsinks, then these old Intel coolers are very competitive (I couldn't find anything similar sized that cooled remotely as well).

 

[LTC8K6]

And I'm not arguing it at all, my only point was that the design looks extremely similar to older Intel coolers (and thus not really "new") which are also cheaper to buy (and possibly bigger/better). I haven't seen one of these "new" ones cut open.

But if you need a cooler better than the current "modern" crap stock Intel heatsink, and have $35+ to spend then a tower will probably beat this "new" Intel cooler. But at under $20 you can get one of the older very similar heatsinks and get good bang for the buck. Unless you have a specific situation (like I did) where you can't fit most heatsinks, then these old Intel coolers are very competitive (I couldn't find anything similar sized that cooled remotely as well).

Well, I have lots of different cpu coolers. Several older Intel stock coolers, several Haswell stock coolers, several Arctic Alpine cpu coolers, a TX-3, A 212Evo, and two TS15A coolers.

And I'm sure I missed a few. :biggrin:

 

[iSkylaker]

But if you need a cooler better than the current "modern" crap stock Intel heatsink, and have $35+ to spend then a tower will probably beat this "new" Intel cooler. But at under $20 you can get one of the older very similar heatsinks and get good bang for the buck. Unless you have a specific situation (like I did) where you can't fit most heatsinks, then these old Intel coolers are very competitive (I couldn't find anything similar sized that cooled remotely as well).

Or spend an extra $6 on this elegant and quieter cooler.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QJI75AA

 

[crashtech]

Or spend an extra $6 on this elegant and quieter cooler.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QJI75AA

I'd want to look up some tests of that cooler, the fin surface area seems rather minimal.

 

[PPB]

Dont waste time with phanteks htpc top down coolers, they still cant figure how to do one that performs decently for the price. I would go for a 775 copper core one, my 4790k seems to do fine with it. If you can have the one li ked by another poster which was for the extreme 775 proccys, even better. Top down coolers is where the money is at right now.

 

[EliteRetard]

Or spend an extra $6 on this elegant and quieter cooler.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QJI75AA

LOL 40$ for mediocre cooler. That same money can easily get a tower cooler that will smash it in cooling and noise.

Again, if you have that kind of money, no question a tower cooler is superior.
If you don't have that kind of money and/or you are size constrained you cant beat the old 775 vapor chamber cooler I suggested. In fact I would wager that the Intel cooler can outperform that thing in cooling noticeably. I know it whooped the Scythe Shuriken I tried, and that's a bigger cooler than this Phanteks. I can pretty much guarantee that Phantek isn't going to cool twice as well for twice the price.

 

[EliteRetard]

I'm going to post it again, under $20 shipped:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-intel-d...UTF8&qid=1443388200&sr=8-1&keywords=DTC-AAS10

I honestly would love to find a better cooler than this in the same size and price range.

 

[crashtech]

Meanwhile, we haven't heard back from the OP regarding Vcore under load.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'm going to post it again, under $20 shipped:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-intel-d...UTF8&qid=1443388200&sr=8-1&keywords=DTC-AAS10

I honestly would love to find a better cooler than this in the same size and price range.

How easy is it to get that to fit an 1150 socket?

 

[EliteRetard]

Here's a bracket for an aftermarket heatsink:

The outermost hole is for socket 2xxx and is probably to far to do. The two innermost holes that overlap are the 1xxx socket and then 775 innermost. Basically all you have to do is get a round file or a drill bit to fit in the stock 775 hole and ream it out a bit diagonally. I don't think I reamed it out as far as this shows, this bracket probably uses a larger bolt/clip. The stock Intel brackets are thick and strong so they wont bend or break after doing this.

Took me probably 30 minutes to remove the clips (properly, without breaking them) and to carefully ream out the holes. I didn't use a clamp or anything, just held it in my hand and did it with a super crappy thrown away cordless drill and a normal looking drill bit. I went slow and steady, moving the bit up and down while tilting it back and forth a bit as I pulled the direction I wanted it. My holes ended up a little messy but it worked fine. You can reuse the plastic clips if you like, the slot is small enough it wont affect their hold.