i7-2600K stock: temp issues

[eighteesix]

bear with me: i just built a new system (specs below) and its been running great. ive decided to overclock and install an H60, but wanted to check temp under stress load first. the result shocked me. i was reading 30-40C idle, 92-98C under load. my intel HSF wasnt seated properly even though all the pins were secure, so i reseated it, which brought it down to around 80 under load.

today i switched to the corsair H60 (w/ pre-applied thermal paste) still at stock i7 2600K speed, and under stress load, i turned my fan control up, ran prime95, and im reading 57-63C (max). i feel like for stock settings thats still hot. is that true? is this running hot? any help/suggestions appreciated.

note:the h60 box has a chart that shows this: the H60 will keep the i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz at 100% load cooled to 78.9 C. so im assuming my numbers are probably fairly average. i dont know how the 2600k and 920 compare in heat, but its a gauge of sorts i suppose.

using prime95/realtemp/cpu-z/optimal BIOS defaults

GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P
i7-2600K 3.4GHz
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB DDR3
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6870 1GB ]
CORSAIR TX750M
CORSAIR H60 Cooler
Corsair 600T Case

 

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the forums eighteesix! :thumbsup:

2600K on H100 here. I don't know if my issues with the flatness of my H100 mounting surface are universal, but you can check my thread here in which I lapped my H100 and found it to be quite warped.

I think your temps are to be expected with the H60.

Lapping it and using some premium TIM will help, but its not an effortless adventure to say the least.

 

[eighteesix]

Lapping it and using some premium TIM will help, but its not an effortless adventure to say the least.

thanks by "lapping" it you mean i should.... um rub them together? ha and what is TIM? thermal paste?

edit: ah, yes thermal paste. i may replace. and lapping wouldnt be my specialty. i wouldnt even attempt it. in fact, my cores dont usually go beyond 3/4C different. 5C at most sometimes.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Sorry did you say you built this system . Lapping is when you sand the die area that comes in contact with HSF. So that its flat. Tim = thermal paste . I would tell ya what Tim to use . But it would just derail thread. I never heard of anyone resetting the cpu before considering the latching system .

 

[eighteesix]

Sorry did you say you built this system . Lapping is when you sand the die area that comes in contact with HSF. So that its flat. Tim = thermal paste . I would tell ya what Tim to use . But it would just derail thread. I never heard of anyone resetting the cpu before considering the latching system .

yes i built the system. also, i didnt reseat the CPU, just the stock heatsink. the processor itself seems fine, except for the heat issue.

ill probably get some new TIM on newegg.

 

[Idontcare]

Sorry did you say you built this system . Lapping is when you sand the die area that comes in contact with HSF. So that its flat. Tim = thermal paste . I would tell ya what Tim to use . But it would just derail thread. I never heard of anyone resetting the cpu before considering the latching system .

Go easy on him Nemesis, he's new, he'll spook easy at the first signs of your butchered english and atypical views on geopolitics

thanks by "lapping" it you mean i should.... um rub them together? ha and what is TIM? thermal paste?

edit: ah, yes thermal paste. i may replace. and lapping wouldnt be my specialty. i wouldnt even attempt it. in fact, my cores dont usually go beyond 3/4C different. 5C at most sometimes.

Lapping isn't just for dealing with cores that have disparate temperatures, its also for dealing with the average temp itself being higher than expected or desired.

That said, it is not for faint of heart, I wouldn't recommend it for anyone that's not super excited to do it in the first place.

Yeah just go for some good thermal paste, nothing spendy, $10 shipped for some NT-H1 from newegg is a pretty good deal (its what I use).

Also, I've found it matters which direction your waterblock is mounted to the CPU with these corsairs, in my case the best temps come when the words "Corsair" are lined up to be parallel with the PCIE slots, not perpendicular to them.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Hay IDC I am angry why doesn't this site allow me to have emotions? Its just not right I can't give ya a little wink. Its also not right that my user CP was changed and thread subsciption was turned on for alot of topics . I deleted them and turned it back off . But I only subscibe to threads at 1 site .

I was going easy on him . I was just expressing doubt in my usual way.

Befor I ever attempted to build my first PC . I spent 6 months researching . One simply has to know which wires are plus and minus on DC system . and when that rule changes . Thats the starting point.

 

[eighteesix]

ha this guys funny.

i researched for 3 months. knew enough. this was an issue you couldnt even get into until you get into the building process. anyways, im working it out.

 

[Idontcare]

Hay IDC I am angry why doesn't this site allow me to have emotions? Its just not right I can't give ya a little wink.

In your CP somewhere you should find something relating to "Message Editor Interface" which lets you pick the option "Show Enhanced (WYSIWYG) Editor".

Then you need to choose the "Go Advanced" button when you draft your post.

Then, and only then, are you allowed to have emotions, Nemesis, as we all still remember quite vividly what happened the last time you were allowed access to the emotion synthesizer 3000 last year. :shudders: Not only did you make baby jebus weep, but the donkey that was standing next to the manger is still convulsing uncontrollably.

 

[Nemesis 1]

ha this guys funny.

i researched for 3 months. knew enough. this was an issue you couldnt even get into until you get into the building process. anyways, im working it out.

When you don't know anything about computers and your reading direction and it tells you to pin something and you go what. The first place ya start is terms used in the computer world so ya can grasp what their talking about . Electrical is exactly the correct place to start . The hardware is easy to assemble . You might want to research what parts offer the best performance . But other than that making the correct connections is pretty big deal. My 4 year old grandson can assemble a motherboard with its components anybody can . I started out using Raid 0 but it was the last thing I researched. PS was a no brainer . Ya read the reviews and buy the best ya can afford. Ya see these ding dang PCs are all about flow control . I also started out with watercooling designing my own blocks but off of proven designs in other industries. Bought lian li case but learned quickly these things nor was anyone elses designed for H2O. So within 5 months I designed a case just for water cooling. Its pretty ding dang refined now . I don't make my own design water blcks now . but I do use the blocks of a company I gave a very old design to and they put it to use . The only thing I do differantly is I have the base remachined using sterling silver. So you can debate what to learn first all day long . But until you understand the terms used its useless. Pinning was my first small road block and I just naturally followed it threw till I completely understood the electrical system . I wasn't gifted like so many here and understood all this stuff from birth .

 

[Nemesis 1]

In your CP somewhere you should find something relating to "Message Editor Interface" which lets you pick the option "Show Enhanced (WYSIWYG) Editor".

Then you need to choose the "Go Advanced" button when you draft your post.

Then, and only then, are you allowed to have emotions, Nemesis, as we all still remember quite vividly what happened the last time you were allowed access to the emotion synthesizer 3000 last year. :shudders: Not only did you make baby jebus weep, but the donkey that was standing next to the manger is still convulsing uncontrollably.

Screw the emotions if I Iam going to make an egyptian /Roman baby weep.

Caesarion was his name . Why do you suppose they call a baby who has to be removed by knife a C-section . Because he was CUT out . Removed from his normal birth and does not suffer the struggle of birth the fight for life . Caesarion was cut out removed from his rightfull station in life and did not suffer the the birth struggle of a ruler . But because of his station in life was given all the knowledge of empirical knowledge that only great kings have access to. That donkey you spoke has been kicking you people around ever since the manger . . The egyptian God Horus was born and has the exact same story as the child you speak of. Exactly the same right to the end . The biggest differance Horus came 2000 years earlier. . But the child you speak of was truely the king of kings as no man has had a greater influence on man than this child. Its all about flow and frequency

Its the same with PCs in order to assemble one correctly you have to understand the source the power that makes it work . In the case of computers its electrical flow control

 

[Mr. President]

What voltage are you running to the CPU? I ran into the same problem when I bought my 2500k and it turned out that my motherboard was outputting much too high voltage by default. The motherboard defaulted to 1.3v or 1.35v whereas it should be 1.2v (IIRC), and my CPU dropped from 90-95C to 65-70C after I changed it.

 

[eighteesix]

What voltage are you running to the CPU? I ran into the same problem when I bought my 2500k and it turned out that my motherboard was outputting much too high voltage by default. The motherboard defaulted to 1.3v or 1.35v whereas it should be 1.2v (IIRC), and my CPU dropped from 90-95C to 65-70C after I changed it.

actually i think that was my issue. the mobo was defaulting at 1.355V.

in reference to fans and the H60 cooler, ive been discussing with my friends and it sounds more logical that you have the fans sucking the cool air into the case, onto the radiator itself. that makes sense to me, no?

and as far as a push/pull setup goes, is that the fan attached to the case pulling air out, and the fan on the other side (interior) push air towards the HDDs?

 

[Nemesis 1]

and as far as a push/pull setup goes, is that the fan attached to the case pulling air out, and the fan on the other side (interior) push air towards the HDDs?

Could you restate the above or did you mean it as written?

 

[eighteesix]

Could you restate the above or did you mean it as written?

after re-reading what i wrote, that doesnt make much sense. ha what the hell. anyways, basically i was wondering if the push pull was always fans facing the same direction, and if it was always an inward direction.

 

[Idontcare]

Push-pull is one fan "pushing" air into the radiator and one fan on the other side of the radiator "pulling" air out.

Whether the air itself is being pulled from outside the case (and pushed into the case), or being pulled from within the case (and pushed outside the case) is an entirely seperate matter.

On the radiator, push-pull will always give better temps than push or pull only, and push is better than pull (see HardOCP recent review of H100).

Pushing into your case, or pushing out of the case, is a matter of experimentation. Try it and find out.

 

[eighteesix]

wonderful. well im pushing air into the case from outside, and pulling that air through with the other fan. we'll see how it goes. i figure cooler air is better than warmer.