i7 2600K Sandy VS i7 980 Extreme

[scrubman]

Say what you want about the Q6600 but if you are running over 3GHz with SSD, Win7 64bit and hi end video it still kicks pretty damn well. With a few exceptions I dont know how much "wow" Im gonna see with a SB upgrade other than benchmark numbers. Slightly smoother game play since everything is alreay maxxed out?

I was definately excited for SB and had every intention to upgrade and still may just for a geek tech "fix" but with what I just said along with a lack of some important SB/1155 features (native 16x PCIe for SLI and native usb3.0) and limitations (no cpu overclocking with access to embedded GPU) its making me wonder if I should just wait.

Don't worry, I'll be upgrading to SB... in Q3 2011. Delicious quad channel memory, 40 scrumptious PCI-E lanes, and 6 to 8 extra tasty cores.

I'm not sure you meant SB here or IB but these things are what I'm talking about!!!! Once again my theme in my recent posts has been "Now I know what "Mainstream" is and why I may be waiting for "Enthusiast"..

 

[AdamK47]

Ya and 3 months latter the the IB 1155 guys will show off there 22nm ondie memory 6 core IVY Bridges. Ya I think 1155 this round is the right move all the way to Ivy.

And 2011 won't have 22nm CPUs? I'd like to see the roadmap you're looking at.

 

[Gillbot]

How many posts are you going to make about you waiting for some mythical 16 core i9 cpu?

He's just trolling as usual. Don't feed the trolls.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Ya and 3 months latter the the IB 1155 guys will show off there 22nm ondie memory 6 core IVY Bridges. Ya I think 1155 this round is the right move all the way to Ivy.

Thinking Intel will back port Ivy Bridge to LGA 1155 is a big leap of faith on your part. Do you have any links from Intel to support this?

 

[Makaveli]

Ya and 3 months latter the the IB 1155 guys will show off there 22nm ondie memory 6 core IVY Bridges. Ya I think 1155 this round is the right move all the way to Ivy.

I really don't see that happening.

socket 1155 is only a midrange board and a replacement for lynnfield.

 

[Phynaz]

whats the point? Every game made is made to run on a xbox. What does that take?

Did you know that there other uses for a PC besides playing games?

 

[coffeejunkee]

Did you know that there other uses for a PC besides playing games?

Apart from that, believe it or not, there are actually games that can put cpu power to good use. Fex. Supreme Commander, a game that came out in 2007 but SB will be the first cpu that can run it decently without overclocking.

What you're forgetting ofcourse is that a Q6600 at 3.7 guzzles power. The savings on your power bill could come a long way for paying the upgrade.

 

[aigomorla]

After doing some research I saw that the 2600k i7 sandy the most powerful one is only about 400 dollars, while the 980 Extreme is 1000 dollars. I dont get that ?

You pay 600 less and get a more powerful CPU ..

da hell?

more powerful in whose eyes and for what?

For gaming? Yea SB is slightly faster clock per clock, but do you really think all the 980X owners have hexcores for pure gaming?

And maybe the 980X owners are waiting for the LGA2011 because we saw how intel treated 1156 and dont want to get involved in another incident when it happens to 1155.

Dude... i can say without a doubt.. 99% of the 980X owners will wait for 2011, and 75% of the 1156 owners will also wait for 2011.

980X, 990X, and 995X are still intel's top food chain regardless of SB.

 

[reality facts]

aigomoria is pretty spot on


the sandy bridge is better then 1156 not 1366


intel would be laughing at people suggesting sandy bridge can compete with the i7 6 cores. They hope theres enough people to believe that its good for intel and sandy bridge

Also they are hoping people continue to believe the that the sandy bridge are better then the current x58 i7 with triple memory

sandy bridge are at a reasonable price due to being not quite comparable to the current i7 950 but banking on reviews to say they are , the only one who is about the same is the i7 2600

 

[JSt0rm]

Did you know that there other uses for a PC besides playing games?

of course man. And for everyone who has the hobby of ocing the newest beast go right ahead. Enjoy.

I'm just saying the days of NEEDING to upgrade ATLEAST every 2 years are over.

 

[Makaveli]

aigomoria is pretty spot on


the sandy bridge is better then 1156 not 1366


intel would be laughing at people suggesting sandy bridge can compete with the i7 6 cores. They hope theres enough people to believe that its good for intel and sandy bridge

Also they are hoping people continue to believe the that the sandy bridge are better then the current x58 i7 with triple memory

sandy bridge are at a reasonable price due to being not quite comparable to the current i7 950 but banking on reviews to say they are , the only one who is about the same is the i7 2600

Problem is you have people looking at the 2600k on the heels of the 980x and they are busting there loads prematurely

Not noticing most of the test isn't using all threads. When it does it still loses and most 980x owners bought there chips to use those extra cores.

I've seen some kids are at the [H] giving some of the 980x owners from static over this yet they are sitting on C2Q level cpus lol.

 

[jtisgeek]

Wow I think most people forget there is more stuff that runs on pc's that aren't games anything that can use the other 2 cores will still be much faster on a 980x .

I agree with the Q6600 love but come on guys that's a old chip that doesn't do well in alot of apps and games.

 

[BoozeCompany]

The main advantage of SB is the high stock frequency and the high turbo boost. When S1156 and S1155 are OC'ed to the same level and with turbo disabled there wont be a big difference in clock per clock performance.
Sure S1155 will be faster clock per clock but not significantly

S1155 will not be better than S1366 because it has no 3 channel memory and it only features 16 PCIE x16 2.0 lanes.

 

[IntelUser2000]

The main advantage of SB is the high stock frequency and the high turbo boost. When S1156 and S1155 are OC'ed to the same level and with turbo disabled there wont be a big difference in clock per clock performance.
Sure S1155 will be faster clock per clock but not significantly

S1155 will not be better than S1366 because it has no 3 channel memory and it only features 16 PCIE x16 2.0 lanes.

Well... not exactly.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=99

The 2600K is beating 975 in nearly every application, the average being 10-15%, and they use same effective Turbo clocks. That's not significant for previous generation users, but architecture wise it is. Against Lynnfield it'll be 15-20%, per clock.

 

[tweakboy]

Thanks for the respones fellas. Ya I heard the 2600K is not the most powerful CPU for 2011 Intel.

Im thinking they will introduce a 6 core version 3000k or something. People who already have quad machines should really wait for the successor to 2600K ,, Thanks gg and gb,

 

[SHAQ]

I think the 2600K is very nice myself except for the crippled memory channels and crippled PCIe lanes, mostly the latter. And the integrated graphics is a waste of space and money for me. I hope the 2011 parts will OC a bit better, but 4.5 would be good enough. I would hesitate to put more than 1.3v to it for daily use though as those 4.6-4.8 OC's are at 1.4v+. Every die shrink should take roughly .1v off max voltage. I don't see many people with 1.5v running through their 920's. I hope a good unlocked 2011 CPU with a good motherboard will be under $600. Otherwise I'll stay with the 920 until 2020 like the tweakster.

Are all of them going to be quad channel? I assume those are 8 core and triple channel will be for 4-6 cores?

 

[Koniakki]

Benchmark wins from AnandTech Bench.

Intel 980X VS INTEL 2600K
------13-----------25
Out of a Total of 42 Tests, in which the 4 are power consumption related as posted below.

So winning almost 2x more tests than the 980X? Results speaks for themselves.

BATTERY TESTS

Idle Power Consumption
Total System Power Consumption in Watts - Lower is Better
Intel Core i7 980X:-----102W
Intel Core i7 2600K:----80.4W

Load Power Consumption (x264 1st Pass)
Total System Power Consumption in Watts - Lower is Better
Intel Core i7 980X:-----185.5W
Intel Core i7 2600K:----127.6W

Idle Power Consumption (Win7/Radeon HD 5870)
Total System Power Consumption in Watts - Lower is Better
Intel Core i7 980X:-----79.5W
Intel Core i7 2600K:----74W

Load Power Consumption x264 HD 3.03 1st pass (Win7/Radeon HD 5870)
Total System Power Consumption in Watts - Lower is Better
Intel Core i7 980X:-----170W
Intel Core i7 2600K:----128W

I did not include the % difference because it wasn't that necessary, since in most tests the difference is negligible with a few exceptions.
Dont get me wrong. The 980X is THE better processor here; but the 2600K at its price, is Unbeatable..

I love AMD but damn, SB brings some serious performance at the table.
You have to give Intel some credit. Especially on the memory bandwidth. Being faster and having bigger bandwidth than the 1366s Triple-Channel? Downright impressive in my book.
I just wish they could had populated the 1155 socket with more lanes and not just x16..

So basically is history repeating its self. We are offered yesterdays performance(High-End i7's) at a better price.
Then AMD will roll out the Bulldozer that will probably(just saying) compete with SB 1155 and then Intel will roll out the 2011 socket and again saturate the High-End segment.. Don't you just LOVE the(their) competition? :biggrin:

 

[StinkyPinky]

Thinking Intel will back port Ivy Bridge to LGA 1155 is a big leap of faith on your part. Do you have any links from Intel to support this?

I like to think Intel wont obsolete a socket in 9 months. Then again....

 

[toyota]

I like to think Intel wont obsolete a socket in 9 months. Then again....

so Ivy Bridge will be out in 9 months? um Sandy Bridge 2011 will just be coming out then so do you have those confused?

 

[Koniakki]

I think the 2600K is very nice myself except for the crippled memory channels and crippled PCIe lanes, mostly the latter.

Crippled? With a maximum support of 32GB and more bandwidth than the 1366 socket's Triple-Channel, "crippled" is not the word for it.

And the integrated graphics is a waste of space and money for me. I hope the 2011 parts will OC a bit better, but 4.5 would be good enough. I would hesitate to put more than 1.3v to it for daily use though as those 4.6-4.8 OC's are at 1.4v+. Every die shrink should take roughly .1v off max voltage. I don't see many people with 1.5v running through their 920's. I hope a good unlocked 2011 CPU with a good motherboard will be under Otherwise I'll stay with the 920 until 2020 like the tweakster.

I feel the same for the Integrated IGP. But many will use it so for them is not a waste.
Not that bad at OCing. Some hit 5Ghz(1.5v+) on air cooling as I'm sure you have read.
And with a stable 4.7-4.8 @1.36v or a more modest 4.4-4.6 @ 1.25-1.30v thats not bad at all.. But we always want more, don't we?

Are all of them going to be quad channel? I assume those are 8 core and triple channel will be for 4-6 cores?

AFAIK the 2011 socket will have Quad-Channel Memory support..

 

[Makaveli]

Crippled? With a maximum support of 32GB and more bandwidth than the 1366 socket's Triple-Channel, "crippled" is not the word for it.

This has me curious how exactly does it have more Bandwidth then the triple channel setup?

Also while having sockets that can handle 8GB dimms are nice what are memory prices like on those

 

[AdamK47]

This has me curious how exactly does it have more Bandwidth then the triple channel setup?

Also while having sockets that can handle 8GB dimms are nice what are memory prices like on those

This part was confusing to me as well, but considering the crazy fervent SB love going on around here lately, it's no surprise it was posted.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I think intel should send 980x owners a free ssd. I mean come on intel. 980x has been out a few months and they put out a new midrange platform that competes with it for $670 less. I'd be pissed at intel if I forked over a grand and 3 months later the equivalent is available for $330.

 

[borisvodofsky]

f*** guys who gives a s***. I'm runnin a 939 x2 4200 and I'm playing all the games I want. I've never seen a time that cpu power has just been "enough" for so long.

Its f****** amazing. I'm at work on my 2006 macpro and my cpu is sitting at 6%. F*** yes!!

JSt0rm, you should know better than this. 6 and one half "thousand" posts means you should know to watch your language in technical forums.

Anandtech Moderator - Keysplayr

oh eww 4200? that thing only haz 512cache.. weak sauce....

 

[Capt Caveman]

Haha. Not only does Tweakboy have to annoy everyone in the Video forum but here too. He used to create a thread for every new Nvidia driver update and talk about how much it improved his gaming on a 8800GT with no benchmarks and ignoring the fact that the drivers provided no improvement for his card.