i7 2600K or AMD X6 1100T??

[thejunglegod]

Am in serious need of an update and would love if u guys could help me out her. I am an enthusiast gamer and i need to know which one of these would be better? Have browsed through many major sites trying to figure out which one is best. Would love your inputs. I currently own an ATI HD 5870.

 

[T101]

The 2600k any day of the week. Even at stock it is a better choice by far. And considering at how easy these chips are to overclock, you get more performance per $ than any other cpu on the market at the moment. If your budget is tight, go for the 2500k instead, which does not have hyperthreading.

Sadly, AMD does not really have any good alternatives at the moment. Only reason to get AMD would be llano for a HTPC build, IMHO.

 

[Ieat]

i7 2600k is better but also a lot more then a 1100t. If your just gaming then i5 2500k would be a good choice.

 

[thejunglegod]

im looking for a build that'll last me at least a year or 2 from now. I know its a lot of time but will the i5 2500K last me that long?? Budget is not really that much of an issue but i dont wanna go overboard.

 

[Ieat]

i5 2500k gaming performance is virtually identical to i7 2600k. The only things that the i7 has extra are 2mb more cache and hyper-threading. Neither of which really impact gaming performance.

 

[thejunglegod]

hmm so i have decided on a 2600K. Thanks everybody. Also Im gonna go for an Asus Rampage III gene motherboard for the processor. Any inputs regarding this mobo or should i get something else???

 

[guskline]

Check my sig below. I own 2 i5-2500ks AND an 1100T. First you cannot buy the 1100T new because AMD has stopped making them unless you find some dealer that still has them in stock. Second, the i5-2500k is a much newer and fast CPU. The cost for the 1100T is very similar to what the i5-2500k is. The i7-2600k is $100 more and if money is no object AND you run multi-thread application get it. Your post said enthusiastic game? i5-2500k.

 

[thejunglegod]

Hmm ok. i think i get you. Im sorry for being such a dumb idiot but my last processor was an X4 955 Black Edition along with the HD 5870. My knowledge on processors+ mobo is basically nonsense. Somehow i get this mental block that the i7 is better than the i5. donno why. Noobness. Will do a thorough research then. Thanks.

 

[T101]

Well, many say that there is no use of hyperthreading in games today. Well most people say that. But I have found out through experience that you really see hyperthreading use in many games today. Add to that the fact that hyperthreading helps if you have a lot of programs running in the background while gaming (which I do).

The 2600k is a very nice cpu. So is the 2500k. If money is not tight, I would go for the 2600k, and get a Corsair H100 to cool it, and like me, overclock to 4.5-4.6Ghz (what you can get it to on reasonable voltage <1.39V imho).

 

[thejunglegod]

the corsair h100 is what i have in mind. Recently got myself an Obsidian 800D. Also, overclocking will be a serious no no atm. Always get confused concerning voltages. Need to read up more about it. What mother board would you suggest for the 2500k?

 

[Puppies04]

Well, many say that there is no use of hyperthreading in games today. Well most people say that. But I have found out through experience that you really see hyperthreading use in many games today. Add to that the fact that hyperthreading helps if you have a lot of programs running in the background while gaming (which I do).

The 2600k is a very nice cpu. So is the 2500k. If money is not tight, I would go for the 2600k, and get a Corsair H100 to cool it, and like me, overclock to 4.5-4.6Ghz (what you can get it to on reasonable voltage <1.39V imho).

Hyperthreading while gaming helps out a lot on dual cores (I3's) I have yet to see any proof that it significantly helps out on the quads.

OP save yourself some $ and get the 2500K you wont be dissappointed

 

[Puppies04]

the corsair h100 is what i have in mind. Recently got myself an Obsidian 800D. Also, overclocking will be a serious no no atm. Always get confused concerning voltages. Need to read up more about it. What mother board would you suggest for the 2500k?

The H100 is so much overkill for either the 2500K ( which I recommend you get) or the 2600K

Get a hyper 212 and you will be fine with a nice solid 24/7 4.5ghz-ish overclock.

As far as mobos are concerned get a Z68 board, it will allow you to use the onboard graphics if you ever have a problem with a discrete GPU and also enable overclocking. Don't worry about overcloccking being hard, once you have the rig set up it is a 10 minute job and then a few hours to tweak the OC for maximum efficiency.

You seem to have the "oh that part is more expensive so it must be a lot better for me mindset" try to get out of that. The idea should be to spend as little as possible for maximum results. Once you have decided on a CPU head over to the general hardware forum and copy/paste the sticky thread questionnaire into a post. Be realistic with the budget you don't need to spend 1000's to get a solid fast machine that will last you a couple of years.

 

[thejunglegod]

LOL. You are bang on with my "mindset". So many things clearing up here. Hmmm thanks for all the input fellas.

 

[T101]

I have not measured the difference how much it impacts or improves performance, all I say is that i see that games use hyperthreading. Moot point actually beyond that. Since even 2500k is enough to run any game today, and even handle background tasks.

As for the H100 being overkill, well, my 2600k reaches 63c in LinX using the H100, and that is at 4.5Ghz 1.35V. The other three 2600ks I have overclocked using the H100 is reaching the same degrees, and run on about the same voltage. They do get hot. While 63C is not dangerous, it is as high as I would be comfortable running 24/7 365 days a year, which I do with my system.

For me the H100 is not overkill. But that of course depends on your cpu load and computing habits.

About the mindset, I have to say, I am not out to buy the most expensive part. Far from it. When I got the 2600k it was for purchasing price, same price as the retailers get it for, and it was like $20 or so more than the 2500k. Was not much point in not getting it. Especially since I do a lot of cad, circuit board design and video encoding as well. The H100 was a better fit for my case, thats why I got it. It was expensive, but worth it. There are other air and water coolers out there that will do a decent job. It all depends on how far you are willing to push your cpu and how you use it.

 

[thejunglegod]

so after some serious browsing, im going with the foll:
i5 2500K with the P8 Z68 PRO mobo.
Overclocking will still not be a good option for me though. Perhaps i'll try with my current system first. Now for some research regarding cooling.

 

[lehtv]

P8z68 Pro is a pretty expensive mobo. What does it have in features that you actually need, and that cheaper mobos don't have? E.g. ASrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 and Z68X-UD3H, even P8Z68-V Gen3

+1 on 2500K, it's the gaming CPU to get.

You'll probably need new RAM as well, get 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.5V

 

[RavenSEAL]

Depends how much money you got to spend. The 2600K is faster is a lot cases, but doesn't justify spending double the cost of an X6.

So i'll leave it at this, are you looking forward more to Haswell or Piledriver?

 

[thejunglegod]

Haswell or Piledriver??? i seriously dont know what those are and im obviously commenting atm without a google search.
About the mobo: i was reading up about the Maximus iv gene-z and i think that is a decent enough board too (though mATX). Also, the onboard audio seems to be much better on the Maximus than on the P8Z68-V Pro.

 

[thejunglegod]

read up a lot about the 2500K and 2600K and came to the conclusion that both processors give similar performace w.r.t gaming. the 2600K is better only for video encoding, photo editing, cad etc. which uses hyperthreading, the only feature absent from 2600K. the only game i could research that uses hyperthreading is battlefield 2.

 

[Maximilian]

Snag a used 2600k if possible, failing that get the 2500k.

2600k is only worth it at a really good price, buying it new is a waste of cash if you dont need the HT for something, generally if you have to ask then you probably dont need it.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Op,just grab the 2500k without question.

I started a thread a couple weeks ago looking for a cpu to replace my i3 2100 which in about all the benchmarks outperforms the x4 955 and in some cases even the x4 980.

The thread was a i5 2500k vs i7 2600k thread and the general idea was the 2500k and i saw improvements in all my games even 4 year old UT3 with the biggest improvement being the canned benchmark of the hardset demo giving a 10fps higher average and 7fps higher minimum over the i3 2100.:thumbsup:

That was the wow factor for me,most people would upgrade their gpus to gain 10fps and more then likely a 2500k would have made more sense.

 

[jimpatrick]

I have not measured the difference how much it impacts or improves performance, all I say is that i see that games use hyperthreading. Moot point actually beyond that. Since even 2500k is enough to run any game today, and even handle background tasks.

As for the H100 being overkill, well, my 2600k reaches 63c in LinX using the H100, and that is at 4.5Ghz 1.35V. The other three 2600ks I have overclocked using the H100 is reaching the same degrees, and run on about the same voltage. They do get hot. While 63C is not dangerous, it is as high as I would be comfortable running 24/7 365 days a year, which I do with my system.

For me the H100 is not overkill. But that of course depends on your cpu load and computing habits.

About the mindset, I have to say, I am not out to buy the most expensive part. Far from it. When I got the 2600k it was for purchasing price, same price as the retailers get it for, and it was like $20 or so more than the 2500k. Was not much point in not getting it. Especially since I do a lot of cad, circuit board design and video encoding as well. The H100 was a better fit for my case, thats why I got it. It was expensive, but worth it. There are other air and water coolers out there that will do a decent job. It all depends on how far you are willing to push your cpu and how you use it.

yeah same thoughts here,h100 is just enough for 2600k,d14 can do the job but aesthetically i hate it ()

 

[Rvenger]

i5 2500k and the Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 are a great combo.

 

[thejunglegod]

the AsRock mobos are very difficult to procure here in India i think. I spoke to a couple of guys i usually purchase stuff from and they say that they have to pre order it and it usually takes time. Didnt even tell me how much the cost was. Also, he told me that there'll be some issues with warranty as a 3-year warranty is only valid for U.S. customers

What i want to know is - can anybody here help me choose - Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z or P8Z68-V Pro???

 

[sunny4691]

Both the 2600k and 1100t are waste of money for gaming, get a 2500k and save some cash and buy a ssd if you don't have it.