i5 3570k or i7 3770? (will not be overclocking)

[Techworks]

which CPU performs better overall (especially gaming) when not overclocked? i5 3570k or i7 3770(without the k)?

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 3770 is 100Mhz higher, 2MB extra cache and supports HT. So the 3770 would perform atleast 3% better. Assuming it would be a CPU limit.

 

[beginner99]

get an I5 with no K and invest the saved money over 3770 into a better GPU.

 

[jihe]

no overclock then why buy k parts?

 

[Magic Carpet]

The 3770 is 100Mhz higher, 2MB extra cache and supports HT.

At the same clock, HT off, how much does the extra 2MB of L3 cache differ?

Except requiring more current

 

[MisterMac]

HT might be better at future proofing down the road - when we will eventually see 6 core mainstream intel chips and software follows.

worth a thought.

 

[dma0991]

Without overclocking, the choice is quite obvious. But if the emphasis is mainly gaming, there isn't much merit in having HT. If you have a bottomless wallet, go with the latter.

 

[NTMBK]

Without overclocking, the choice is quite obvious. But if the emphasis is mainly gaming, there isn't much merit in having HT. If you have a bottomless wallet, go with the latter.

Not true, more and more games are using higher thread counts (and will continue to do so with 8 core consoles coming out). Hyperthreading is a good move at this point.

However, I'm not sure buying a 3770 is a good move at this point! Haswell (i7-4770) will be coming out in a month, and will perform even better. I'd say wait for that.

 

[dma0991]

Not true, more and more games are using higher thread counts (and will continue to do so with 8 core consoles coming out). Hyperthreading is a good move at this point.

You will only need as much CPU performance equivalent to the GPU performance(graphics settings) that you put in, except for rare cases. If he's a casual gamer and never gonna use Titan or Crossfire/SLI high end GPUs, I doubt he'll be dissatisfied with a Core i5 3570K.

 

[Revolution 11]

I feel that the best future-proofing is buying the best bang-for-buck equipment (i5-3570K) and getting the future 6 core Intel chips when they actually come out and are needed. If you buy excess equipment to future-proof, you are just denying yourself superior equipment in the future which will be faster, cheaper, better.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I feel that the best future-proofing is buying the best bang-for-buck equipment (i5-3570K) and getting the future 6 core Intel chips when they actually come out and are needed.

Best bang is the way to go, I do agree here

 

[biostud]

nm.

 

[spaceman]

buy the cheaper one
theoretical longer relevance is often cited
but thats just bs, the 3770 will feel as old as the 3570 at roughly the same time

i mean, u honestly gonna be sitting there 3 yrs from now lamenting if i only went w. 3770k things would be peachy

 

[spaceman]

look back, chips are nothing more than period pieces

 

[AtenRa]

Depends on the games you play, if you play older DX-9 games core i5 3570 will be fine. For new DX-11 games especially for BF3 MultiPlayer get the Core i7 3770.

Also, wait for a month and get the new Haswell CPUs.

 

[guskline]

Depends on the games you play, if you play older DX-9 games core i5 3570 will be fine. For new DX-11 games especially for BF3 MultiPlayer get the Core i7 3770.

Also, wait for a month and get the new Haswell CPUs.

Excellent suggestion!:biggrin:

 

[Shephard]

Excellent suggestion!:biggrin:

Not an excellent suggestion... He makes it sound like a locked 3570 can only play DX9 games...

The 3570 locked or unlocked is good enough for any game today.

3770 is slightly better, but not for $65 more dollars. Put that money towards a better GPU if you don't have one already.

 

[lagokc]

If you live near a Microcenter get the 3770 otherwise get the 3570 :biggrin:

 

[SPBHM]

the 3770 can be overclocked to at least 4GHz...
the 3570K without a better cooler is probably limited to around 4.3GHz

so the 3770 would be clearly faster when HT is relevant...
but overall, both would be pretty close...
and without overclock the advantage of the 3770 is clearer... but still, the 3570k is as a great gaming CPU.

what exactly is the price difference in your case?

 

[tracerbullet]

will not be overclocking

Easy to say, tough to do when you realize how simple it is and how much boost you can get. Don't have to go crazy with it, but bumping to 4.2 just by changing the multiplier and not otherwise doing anything else is awfully hard to pass up!

 

[crashtech]

For a non-overclocked gaming system with a discrete GPU, the E3-1230V2 will perform almost identically to the 3770 but for around $50 less, depending on where you buy. They work great in a Z77 motherboard with no requirement for ECC (check to ensure compatibility).

 

[WTSherman]

For a non-overclocked gaming system with a discrete GPU, the E3-1230V2 will perform almost identically to the 3770 but for around $50 less, depending on where you buy. They work great in a Z77 motherboard with no requirement for ECC (check to ensure compatibility).

This is the one I'm thinking about getting, seems like the way to go at this price range. Its faster out of the box than the 3570, similar to the 3770. I enjoy overclocking but you would really have to crank the 3570 to get to the stock Xeon performance and still wouldn't have the 4 extra virtual cores. And you wouldn't need to invest in a high end overclocking motherboard, save a few bucks that way. I read somewhere that with certain boards you can still tweak the Xeon, not like its totally without headroom.

 

[crashtech]

I was not able to overclock the E3-1230 (non V2, which is Sandy Bridge) on either of my Z77 boards. That's not to say OCing of the V2 can't be done, but it's no sure bet. If you like to overclock but want to stay on a budget, a used 2600K or 2700K might be a good value. It did for me, since there is no Microcenter anywhere near here.

 

[SPBHM]

I don't think I've seen any successful OC on the E3 yet...

 

[facetime]

I saw Core i7-3820 listed $274 and Xeon E5-2620 $345 at Gadgetar. I think those are best options IMO.