i5 3570 or FX 8350?

[donmildreone]

My new build will be about £750 without monitor and HDD (I have a 3tb hdd to use).

Here is the build

What I'm wondering is whether it would be worth going for the i5 3570 or the FX8350. I will be gaming quite a lot on this machine and will also be using things like photoshop and lightroom. I won't be rendering or streaming and don't want to overclock.

I know that - for the most part - the i5 3570 will win out on most games, but will the next gen of consoles with AMD 8 cores make the 8350 a better option for the future? I want to keep this machine for 5 years.

Thanks in advance 🙂

Edit: The 7970 in the pcpartpicker list is only there as a placeholder. I've just ordered this 7970 Ghz edition for the same price

 

[monstercameron]

haswell i5

 

[Bateluer]

haswell i5

This, scrap the i5 3570. The performance difference between Ivy and Haswell at similar clock speeds isn't huge, but if you buy Ivy, you're buying into a dead upgrade path.

A Haswell i5 also has a TDP of 84W vs 125W for the AMD FX. Despite the new consoles using AMD's Jaguar platform, I really think Intel's significantly higher IPC will meet or exceed any advantage gained from software optimizations. Plus, those new consoles are also having difficulty running BF4 at 1080p, many of their titles are looking to render at 720 upscaled to 1080 or 1080p@30fps. Jaguar doesn't have the performance in it.

 

[DaveSimmons]

but will the next gen of consoles with AMD 8 cores make the 8350 a better option for the future?

No, the console APUs have 8 slow cores, and programming is done with threads rather than cores. If a game is written multithreaded to use 8 threads, those 8 threads will run perfectly well doubled up on 4 fast cores instead of singly on 8 slow ones.

 

[mfenn]

No, the console APUs have 8 slow cores, and programming is done with threads rather than cores. If a game is written multithreaded to use 8 threads, those 8 threads will run perfectly well doubled up on 4 fast cores instead of singly on 8 slow ones.

Exactly. More people need to recognize that all cores are not created equal. Having more twice as many cores is not much good if the alternatives cores are twice as fast.

 

[mfenn]

My new build will be about £750 without monitor and HDD (I have a 3tb hdd to use).

Here is the build

What I'm wondering is whether it would be worth going for the i5 3570 or the FX8350. I will be gaming quite a lot on this machine and will also be using things like photoshop and lightroom. I won't be rendering or streaming and don't want to overclock.

I know that - for the most part - the i5 3570 will win out on most games, but will the next gen of consoles with AMD 8 cores make the 8350 a better option for the future? I want to keep this machine for 5 years.

Thanks in advance 🙂

Edit: The 7970 in the pcpartpicker list is only there as a placeholder. I've just ordered this 7970 Ghz edition for the same price

There's a few issues with this build, CPU choice notwithstanding.

- CPU/mobo: As has been pointed out, you might as well get a Haswell. There's also not much reason to get an overclocking-capable motherboard with a locked CPU. Get an i5 4670 at £162 and an ASRock H87M at £72
- RAM: That's a triple channel kit whereas all current platforms are dual-channel (most things) or quad-channel (socket 2011). It's also a 1.65V kit whereas current Intel platforms require 1.5V or lower. This Crucial 8GB 1.5V kit is £54.
- SSD : That Kingston is based on the Sandforce controller, which is generally considered to be one of the less reliable options. This Samsung 840 EVO 120GB is a good replacement at £84.
- ODD : That's a slimline ODD whereas your case has normal 5 1/4" bays. This £18 LG is normal sized.

I used OcUK because their site is easy to navigate, feel free to shop around for better prices.

 

[Mtt]

FX-8350

The performance is similiar, but AMD is struggling to survive. If nobody is gonna help them we would have a monopoly in the future. That is why I bought my 8350 and I am quite happy with the purchase.

 

[priyanka741]

for gaming purchase i7 4th generation intel processor

 

[lehtv]

FX-8350

The performance is similiar, but AMD is struggling to survive. If nobody is gonna help them we would have a monopoly in the future. That is why I bought my 8350 and I am quite happy with the purchase.

Ehh, really? The OP is buying a system for himself and wants to get maximum performance and quality for the money. Customers != charity.

Definitely get an i5 if you can afford it. Performance per core is almost double compared to an FX, and it consumes a lot less power and has integrated graphics for backup.

 

[cbrunny]

FX-8350

The performance is similiar, but AMD is struggling to survive. If nobody is gonna help them we would have a monopoly in the future. That is why I bought my 8350 and I am quite happy with the purchase.

As somebody that has always owned AMD products, I must say this is a bad reason to buy any product.

And with that being said, for a budget rig I'd go with the FX-8350. There is still no 100% verification that AM3+ is totally dead, meaning you may (and only "may") get some extra life out of the motherboard. And paired with a suitable GPU, you can get considerable life out of it. My 8350 is still working hard, multitasking with ease.

The nice thing is that AMD cpu's and compatible mobos are significantly cheaper than Intel cpu's and compatible mobos. So if money is at all a factor, I'd do that.

 

[mfenn]

As somebody that has always owned AMD products, I must say this is a bad reason to buy any product.

And with that being said, for a budget rig I'd go with the FX-8350. There is still no 100% verification that AM3+ is totally dead, meaning you may (and only "may") get some extra life out of the motherboard. And paired with a suitable GPU, you can get considerable life out of it. My 8350 is still working hard, multitasking with ease.

The nice thing is that AMD cpu's and compatible mobos are significantly cheaper than Intel cpu's and compatible mobos. So if money is at all a factor, I'd do that.

A £750 build is roughly equivalent to a $1000 USD build once you account for prices being higher over there. That's well above the budget range where you need to consider AMD to save money.

 

[Ketchup]

FX-8350

The performance is similiar, but AMD is struggling to survive. If nobody is gonna help them we would have a monopoly in the future. That is why I bought my 8350 and I am quite happy with the purchase.

You buy from a company because they have a good product, not because you feel sorry for them. If they can't build a comparable product, the company should step it up, not expect the consumer to step it down.