I3 over g3258

[Yuriman]

How would one fix it?

SSD. I/O timeouts are from insufficiently fast storage.

 

[john925]

SSD. I/O timeouts are from insufficiently fast storage.

Hmm well maybe I'll invest in a smaller one and see how that goes.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Hell I'd be happy with anything solid between 30-60fps

Yea, me too. I was referring to Escrow.

 

[john925]

Yea, me too. I was referring to Escrow.

Yeah I saw that. I've always been ok with HDD. I've never even used an SSD before. They're just way too expensive for the amount of space.

 

[Yuriman]

Yeah I saw that. I've always been ok with HDD. I've never even used an SSD before. They're just way too expensive for the amount of space.

I'd personally live off a 64GB or 80GB SSD and just be miserly with my disk usage before I moved back to a mechanical of ANY size. The difference in performance is just too great.

I picked up a couple of small SSDs a little while back between $20 and $30 for various machines I hadn't upgraded yet.

 

[john925]

I'd personally live off a 64GB or 80GB SSD and just be miserly with my disk usage before I moved back to a mechanical of ANY size. The difference in performance is just too great.

Really? I suppose it couldn't hurt to check one out. I don't know if that'll stop the bottleneck problem though. I'll have to weigh my options for if I decide to get an SSD first or a new processor. Because either way I'll need a cpu upgrade.

 

[iSkylaker]

well your "budget" does not allow you to meet your wants and needs. I just dont get the half ass approach to cpus some people make. you can keep a proper cpu for 4 years or more so either pony up and buy a proper cpu or dont bother. cutting corners just means a bad experience in some games and more cost and aggravation in the end when you finally wise up and get a cpu that you should have bought in the first place.

Is not like a $50-$70 CPU will hurt anyway. He has the doors open to turn it into a decent machine with an i5. I agree with your point, but cases like this are exemptions.

 

[Abwx]

CPUs like the Pentium/Celeron cant accomodate more than two heavy threads in Integer code, or more than 2 integer thread + 1 FP thread, more and they will choke with the throughput collapsing heavily.

These are typical corporate dedicated CPUs for generic office applications.

Thoses CPUs are a recipe for a mandatory upgrade to an i3/i5, after wich the user will notice that these latter, although significantly better, are themselves thread counts limited, wich will force to an i7 upgrade as this CPU is the only one that can be considered future proof within Intel s line.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-10/...m-multitasking-test-the-witcher-3-plus-winrar

 

[john925]

CPUs like the Pentium/Celeron cant accomodate more than two heavy threads in Integer code, or more than 2 integer thread + 1 FP thread, more and they will choke with the throughput collapsing heavily.

These are typical corporate dedicated CPUs for generic office applications.

Thoses CPUs are a recipe for a mandatory upgrade to an i3/i5, after wich the user will notice that these latter, although significantly better, are themselves thread counts limited, wich will force to an i7 upgrade as this CPU is the only one that can be considered future proof within Intel s line.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-10/...m-multitasking-test-the-witcher-3-plus-winrar

Yeah but a quad core i5 is still better than a dual core pentium. At least the i5 has hyperthreading. If I have to upgrade later down the road then I will, by then i7 prices would be lower. The price gap between an i3 and i5 is fairly big, but the gap between an i5 and i7 is insane.

 

[john925]

Is not like a $50-$70 CPU will hurt anyway. He has the doors open to turn it into a decent machine with an i5. I agree with your point, but cases like this are exemptions.

My main reason for going with the g3258 was I wanted all the components at the lowest price to get it built and running. Then upgrade from there. I got the g3258 for $45. I can't argue that price. If I can get an i5 for under $180, I'll be happy.

 

[Yuriman]

Yeah but a quad core i5 is still better than a dual core pentium. At least the i5 has hyperthreading. If I have to upgrade later down the road then I will, by then i7 prices would be lower. The price gap between an i3 and i5 is fairly big, but the gap between an i5 and i7 is insane.

i5 does not have hyperthreading.

i3 = 2 cores, 4 threads, 3/4MB cache
i5 = 4 cores, 4 threads, 6MB cache
i7 = 4 cores, 8 threads, 8MB cache

Maybe you're thinking of AVX? All Core CPUs have AVX instructions, whereas Pentiums and Celerons do not.

 

[john925]

i5 does not have hyperthreading.

i3 = 2 cores, 4 threads, 3/4MB cache
i5 = 4 cores, 4 threads, 6MB cache
i7 = 4 cores, 8 threads, 8MB cache

Maybe you're thinking of AVX? All Core CPUs have AVX instructions, whereas Pentiums and Celerons do not.

Ah you're right. It's the dual core i5's that have hyperthreading. Either way, a quad core is better than a dual core