i3-2350M - desktop equivalent and more

[621ogob]

Hey Guys, could give me a hand ?

I have few questions:

1. I wonder, what is desktop equivalent of i3-2350 - 2,3 ghz, 2 cores (4 with HT), 3 mb cache L3 ? I get 17s with superpi 1M - the same result with desktop E6800. That means, those cpus are similar in terms of performance ?

2. What games (by the names) can make use of my whole ram 6 GB ddr3 1333mhz?

Thanks in advance,
621ogob

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Hey Guys, could give me a hand ?

I have few questions:

1. I wonder, what is desktop equivalent of i3-2350 - 2,3 ghz, 2 cores (4 with HT), 3 mb cache L3 ? I get 17s with superpi 1M - the same result with desktop E6800. That means, those cpus are similar in terms of performance ?

2. What games (by the names) can make use of my whole ram 6 GB ddr3 1333mhz?

Thanks in advance,
621ogob

Just because they get the same super pi score doesn't mean they're the same. Your i3 is in a laptop, I assume, since it has a M at the end of the name. Hyper threading doesn't really give it cores. It gives it 4 threads. (i3=2 cores 4 threads? At least the desktop is 2c4t) the i3 should be faster than your desktop.

You don't have a graphics card so your games won't run at max, meaning that it'll never max out your ram, unless you have like 2 games open and you ATTEMPT to play them through the lag you will endure.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

The i3 2350m will be faster than an E6800, I can't think of any games that will use the whole of the 6GB, but as Yamato said, without a dedicated GPU the 2350m isn't sufficiently powerful to run high end games on the iGPU.

 

[621ogob]

The i3 2350m will be faster than an E6800, I can't think of any games that will use the whole of the 6GB, but as Yamato said, without a dedicated GPU the 2350m isn't sufficiently powerful to run high end games on the iGPU.

Thank you for replies, could I ask few more questions ?
1. If i3 2350M > E6800 what is desktop equivalent of 2350M ?
2. Could you make list of games making real use of HT ?
3. In my lappy I have 7670M 1GB gddr3. My peak of ram usage was while playing crysis warhead - 3,5 GB. I wonder if any game can use even more ?

 

[laputan machine]

An i3 2100t is clocked at 2.5ghz. I imagine it would be somewhat close in performance, and it has hyperthreading like the 2350m has.

 

[Ken g6]

1. I'd guess a Pentium G850 or so, which has 2 cores but no HT. A more interesting question is what your GPU equivalent is. I'd guess about a 6570 or 6670. Overall, your laptop is equivalent to a low-end desktop gaming system.
2. I don't know them all, but many games these days can use up to four cores. BF3 is one that certainly can make use of HT.
3. Some newer games, like Skyrim, can use more GPU RAM, and they'd certainly prefer gddr5 to gddr3. I don't know about CPU RAM.

 

[sm625]

You cant really compare it to desktop because there are not many 4 thread cpus on desktop that are clocked that low. But it is basically equivalent to a phemom II X4 840. But slightly faster at running one thread, slightly slower at running 4.

Do not make the mistake of comparing your integrated mobile gpu with a desktop pci express video card. Even if the tech specs matched, the discrete far far outclasses it. I have done thorough posting on this.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2206718
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2250795

"This HD4000 gpu runs furmark 800x600 windowed at 12 fps, which is 3 times faster than the Nvidia 9xxx series discrete gpu I have in my other machine. Yet my other machine does not slow down this badly when furmark is running. Furmark running has virtually no effect on my general usage experience on my machine that has the discrete gpu. But on these integrated graphics systems, the effect is horrific. I noticed the same thing on my llano system. If you load the gpu it inexplicably slows down the whole system to a crawl. This does not happen the same way with discrete cards, even a supposedly far less capable discrete card!"

 

[Blastman]

The equivalent desktop to the mobile i3-2300’s are the i3-2100 series.

See …Intel

Generally these …
i3-2100 3.1 Ghz
i3-2102 3.1 GHz
i3-2105 3.1 Ghz
i3-2120 3.3 Ghz
i3-2125 3.3 Ghz
i3-2130 3.4 Ghz

There are a few lower clocked low wattage rated i3-2100s, the C,T models, but you probably don’t want those for a performance oriented desktop.

 

[621ogob]

1. A more interesting question is what your GPU equivalent is. I'd guess about a 6570 or 6670. Overall, your laptop is equivalent to a low-end desktop gaming system.

You read in my mind There is a thread started by me concerning desktop equivalent of 7670M: the conclusion was hd6570/4670 are similar.

You say i3-2100T - of corz I agree, but could you compare 2350M to older core2duo cpus (coz I'm not very familiar with intel's core ix series): E8xx, E6xx ?

 

[lehtv]

You say i3-2100T - of corz I agree, but could you compare 2350M to older core2duo cpus (coz I'm not very familiar with intel's core ix series): E8xx, E6xx ?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=56

Multiply the i3-2100 numbers by 2.3/3.1 = 0.74 and you get i3-2350M performance. Ignore SysMark and gaming tests since those two show the i3 and the E8400 close to each other

 

[VirtualLarry]

"This HD4000 gpu runs furmark 800x600 windowed at 12 fps, which is 3 times faster than the Nvidia 9xxx series discrete gpu I have in my other machine. Yet my other machine does not slow down this badly when furmark is running. Furmark running has virtually no effect on my general usage experience on my machine that has the discrete gpu. But on these integrated graphics systems, the effect is horrific. I noticed the same thing on my llano system. If you load the gpu it inexplicably slows down the whole system to a crawl. This does not happen the same way with discrete cards, even a supposedly far less capable discrete card!"

I've noticed this too, with my E-350 rig. When running DC on the IGP's SPs, the entire machine slows to a crawl.

With my GTX460 1GB card and my Q9300, I can run balls-to-the-wall DC apps that take up basically 100% of CPU and 99% of GPU, and my web browsing is mostly unaffected.

 

[Hubb1e]

The real question is why are you asking this question in the first place? Mobile is generally slower than desktop because of the power requirements on mobile. What are you really trying to do?

 

[T_Yamamoto]

The real question is why are you asking this question in the first place? Mobile is generally slower than desktop because of the power requirements on mobile. What are you really trying to do?

See if he can ditch his desktop for a more lightweight and mobile laptop.

 

[621ogob]

The real question is why are you asking this question in the first place? Mobile is generally slower than desktop because of the power requirements on mobile. What are you really trying to do?

That all is because of .............. my curiosity
No more, no less.
To be honest, contrary to desktop cpus, I can't find even one complete, extensive test for my 2350M in games. That is where my question arises from. Example: If I knew 2350M = X9100 I would have plenty of tests/reviews/benchmarks to check out and I would easily compare 2350M to other desktop cpus. For now, performance of 2350M is "mysterious" to me. I suspect its performance ~ core 2 duo 3 ghz. Just my guess.

 

[Hubb1e]

Your best bet is to approximate the performance using Anandtech's bench based on the i3 2100. Your mobile CPU is 75% of the i3 2100.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289

With the 7670m it would be a decent mobile gaming laptop equivalent to a low end gaming desktop. You would be able to play most of today's games at low to medium settings.