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I wonder what Ramsey will be giving Spurrier this year for Xmas

Nitemare

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After seeing the cowboy game this weekend I'm amazed Patrick Ramsey can even walk. It's like he had 2 seconds max to throw the ball and then he would be creamed.
 
jeez that first quarter was especially brutal.
i saw roy williams lay into him too, that is one man you do not want chasing you down.
he is a bad bad man.
 
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.

They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.
 
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.

They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.

I'd say they have just as much talent as most of the divison leaders in the NFL right now. 2 of the best corners in the NFL, lavar, armstead, trotter...Ramsey is a good QB, and Coles is a great WR. Getting rid of Stephen Davis was a head scratcher...
 
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.
They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.
I'd say they have just as much talent as most of the divison leaders in the NFL right now. 2 of the best corners in the NFL, lavar, armstead, trotter...Ramsey is a good QB, and Coles is a great WR. Getting rid of Stephen Davis was a head scratcher...

i agree.

as a life-long skins fan i am absolutely sick of watching this pathetic franchise continuanlly screw up.

KILL DAN SNYDER
 
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.

They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.

I'd say they have just as much talent as most of the divison leaders in the NFL right now. 2 of the best corners in the NFL, lavar, armstead, trotter...Ramsey is a good QB, and Coles is a great WR. Getting rid of Stephen Davis was a head scratcher...


I don't think the team stinks but they have a young QB, a meddling owner, a college coach still learning on the ropes and they just got pushed around by the Cowboys, a team that is definitely not star-ridden. I think the Redskins are a .500 team, at best. And if they are better than that then they definitely haven't shown otherwise.
 
Spurrier is just like Pitino. They are great college coaches but when it comes to the pros they aren't all that good.

He is stubborn to boot. Ramsey won't make it to the end of the season at this rate. And I am sure none of the backups
are going to be looking forward to coming in and getting crushed. In the NFL, the quarterback cannot get continue to get
hit and remain healthy and play well. When the Skins wise up and get rid of him, they will be better off.

While I don't see the Skins as a playoff team, the offense skem doesn't work. And they should be beating some teams that
they have lost to. I see the Skins as the opposite as Dallas. Dallas is not a good team. But with Parcells at the helm, he gets
more out of his team. The Redskins get less out of their players.

 
Originally posted by: Ynog
Spurrier is just like Pitino. They are great college coaches but when it comes to the pros they aren't all that good.

He is stubborn to boot. Ramsey won't make it to the end of the season at this rate. And I am sure none of the backups
are going to be looking forward to coming in and getting crushed. In the NFL, the quarterback cannot get continue to get
hit and remain healthy and play well. When the Skins wise up and get rid of him, they will be better off.

While I don't see the Skins as a playoff team, the offense skem doesn't work. And they should be beating some teams that
they have lost to. I see the Skins as the opposite as Dallas. Dallas is not a good team. But with Parcells at the helm, he gets
more out of his team. The Redskins get less out of their players.

Their second string quarterback is on his 5th team and had not thrown a single pass on the professional level until yesterday. Why isn't the coach fired?

LOL, front page of ESPN NFL section
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Ynog
Spurrier is just like Pitino. They are great college coaches but when it comes to the pros they aren't all that good.

He is stubborn to boot. Ramsey won't make it to the end of the season at this rate. And I am sure none of the backups
are going to be looking forward to coming in and getting crushed. In the NFL, the quarterback cannot get continue to get
hit and remain healthy and play well. When the Skins wise up and get rid of him, they will be better off.

While I don't see the Skins as a playoff team, the offense skem doesn't work. And they should be beating some teams that
they have lost to. I see the Skins as the opposite as Dallas. Dallas is not a good team. But with Parcells at the helm, he gets
more out of his team. The Redskins get less out of their players.

Their second string quarterback is on his 5th team and had not thrown a single pass on the professional level until yesterday. Why isn't the coach fired?

LOL, front page of ESPN NFL section

Didn't Spurrier get an insane amount of money on his long term deal? If he gets the axe then he is due all of that money. How many more years is left on his contract? Three after this season is over?
 
As much money as Dan Snyder was willing to spend a couple of years ago to assemble a super-bowl team... He should have figured out the purchase price on the MOST IMPORTANT piece of the puzzle: A good coach. It's been soooo long since the 'Skins had a decent coach. Bring back Joe Gibbs and pay him whatever it takes to get him back into football. (I wonder if Gibbs has a price though... he's probably got plenty of money to be more than content, and seems to enjoy Nascar or whatever it is that he's doing these days)
 
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Ynog
Spurrier is just like Pitino. They are great college coaches but when it comes to the pros they aren't all that good.

He is stubborn to boot. Ramsey won't make it to the end of the season at this rate. And I am sure none of the backups
are going to be looking forward to coming in and getting crushed. In the NFL, the quarterback cannot get continue to get
hit and remain healthy and play well. When the Skins wise up and get rid of him, they will be better off.

While I don't see the Skins as a playoff team, the offense skem doesn't work. And they should be beating some teams that
they have lost to. I see the Skins as the opposite as Dallas. Dallas is not a good team. But with Parcells at the helm, he gets
more out of his team. The Redskins get less out of their players.

Their second string quarterback is on his 5th team and had not thrown a single pass on the professional level until yesterday. Why isn't the coach fired?

LOL, front page of ESPN NFL section

Didn't Spurrier get an insane amount of money on his long term deal? If he gets the axe then he is due all of that money. How many more years is left on his contract? Three after this season is over?

Hopefully they have a performance clause in the contract. Good news is that Duke is hiring now though 🙂
 
It was good to see my Boyz D absolutely throttle Ramsey. IMO, Spurrier has no idea what he is doing and should be fired ASAP. He is a much better college coach and should stay there. Leave the NFL coaching to the pros - for example the man, Bill Parcells!
 
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.

They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.

I'd say they have just as much talent as most of the divison leaders in the NFL right now. 2 of the best corners in the NFL, lavar, armstead, trotter...Ramsey is a good QB, and Coles is a great WR. Getting rid of Stephen Davis was a head scratcher...


I don't think the team stinks but they have a young QB, a meddling owner, a college coach still learning on the ropes and they just got pushed around by the Cowboys, a team that is definitely not star-ridden. I think the Redskins are a .500 team, at best. And if they are better than that then they definitely haven't shown otherwise.

Dallas may not have big name stasr. But Roy Williams, Darren Woodson, Terrance Newmen, and Dat Nyguen make the core of their defese, and the Dallas Defense is ranked #1 in the NFL. Dallas has a damn good defense, if they had a good QB, and good RB and maybe a healthy O-Line, they would be super bowl bound, as they already have one of the top recieving cores in the NFL, and they have depth at that position. But instead you have Hambrick and Carter, although Carter is a much much better QB than Hambrick is a RB.

People say Dallas isnt good. Dallas is GOOD, they just have a bad offense.
 
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.

As for skins, I'm sorry but their players stink. Collinsworthless made a good point yesterday, when he said that none of the offensive linemen even bothered to give Ramsey a hand after he got creamed yet again. And I saw their backs miss one-on-one blocks each time Cowboys blitzed, which they did on every single play. I don't know if their players are undercoached or simple don't know how to play, but they seem to be missing team chemistry.

Digilism: I'm still not sold on Dalas. The problem I have with them is that they haven't won to many games, but rather their oponents lost those games. Just look at the Giants and Eagles games. They shouldn't have won the Skins game either if skins could protect the quarterback at least half of the time. It could be argued that you're as good as your record is, so I guess we'll have to see where cowboys are after a few more weeks.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.

As for skins, I'm sorry but their players stink. Collinsworthless made a good point yesterday, when he said that none of the offensive linemen even bothered to give Ramsey a hand after he got creamed yet again. And I saw their backs miss one-on-one blocks each time Cowboys blitzed, which they did on every single play. I don't know if their players are undercoached or simple don't know how to play, but they seem to be missing team chemistry.

Worst talent wise? WTF? They have ALOT of talent on D, and they also have talented and fast WRs, alot of people in the NFL/analysts place Dallas receiving corps near the top of the list in the NFL, and its a position they have depth at.

Dallas has the best and most talented D in the NFC East, yes they are lacking talent at key positions on offense.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.

As for skins, I'm sorry but their players stink. Collinsworthless made a good point yesterday, when he said that none of the offensive linemen even bothered to give Ramsey a hand after he got creamed yet again. And I saw their backs miss one-on-one blocks each time Cowboys blitzed, which they did on every single play. I don't know if their players are undercoached or simple don't know how to play, but they seem to be missing team chemistry.

Digilism: I'm still not sold on Dalas. The problem I have with them is that they haven't won to many games, but rather their oponents lost those games. Just look at the Giants and Eagles games. They shouldn't have won the Skins game either if skins could protect the quarterback at least half of the time. It could be argued that you're as good as your record is, so I guess we'll have to see where cowboys are after a few more weeks.

Yes ummm you do realise no one has effectively scored points off Dallas turnovers.

I do believe Tampa was held to two field goals and a TD(due to special teams penalty) on turnovers in Dallas territory. People really need to start giving credit where credit is due, and thats the defense. Their defense is GREAT, and still ranked #1 in the NFL. You might not be sold on the Cowboys but you do need to give credit where credit is do and thats Dallas' steller defense.
 
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.

As for skins, I'm sorry but their players stink. Collinsworthless made a good point yesterday, when he said that none of the offensive linemen even bothered to give Ramsey a hand after he got creamed yet again. And I saw their backs miss one-on-one blocks each time Cowboys blitzed, which they did on every single play. I don't know if their players are undercoached or simple don't know how to play, but they seem to be missing team chemistry.

Digilism: I'm still not sold on Dalas. The problem I have with them is that they haven't won to many games, but rather their oponents lost those games. Just look at the Giants and Eagles games. They shouldn't have won the Skins game either if skins could protect the quarterback at least half of the time. It could be argued that you're as good as your record is, so I guess we'll have to see where cowboys are after a few more weeks.

Yes ummm you do realise no one has effectively scored points off Dallas turnovers.

I do believe Tampa was held to two field goals and a TD(due to special teams penalty) on turnovers in Dallas territory. People really need to start giving credit where credit is due, and thats the defense. Their defense is GREAT, and still ranked #1 in the NFL. You might not be sold on the Cowboys but you do need to give credit where credit is do and thats Dallas' steller defense.

Dude, their defense blew 14 point 4th quarter lead to the giants. They also lost to pathetic falcons. Either way that's not what I was saying. Dallas has a good team. They just have the least amount of big name players, compared to other teams in NFC east. They do have a bunch of players playing above expectations, which is a signature of Bill Parcells team.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
After seeing the cowboy game this weekend I'm amazed Patrick Ramsey can even walk. It's like he had 2 seconds max to throw the ball and then he would be creamed.



cripes man, its every freakin game

great idea havin the TE cover a BIGGER, STRONGER, FASTER DE
 
Originally posted by: Broohaha
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy I'd say Spurrier will be gone at the end of this year. They have too much talent to be 3-5.
They don't have THAT much talent. They definitely aren't the most talented team in the NFC east and their win-lose record is probably spot-on. The best that team could have hoped for was an 8 and 8 record and they are headed that way now.
I'd say they have just as much talent as most of the divison leaders in the NFL right now. 2 of the best corners in the NFL, lavar, armstead, trotter...Ramsey is a good QB, and Coles is a great WR. Getting rid of Stephen Davis was a head scratcher...

i agree.

as a life-long skins fan i am absolutely sick of watching this pathetic franchise continuanlly screw up.

right on brutha

 
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.


Dude, their defense blew 14 point 4th quarter lead to the giants. They also lost to pathetic falcons. Either way that's not what I was saying. Dallas has a good team. They just have the least amount of big name players, compared to other teams in NFC east. They do have a bunch of players playing above expectations, which is a signature of Bill Parcells team.


I hope you're not equating "big name players" with "talent". hello jason sehorn.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.

As for skins, I'm sorry but their players stink. Collinsworthless made a good point yesterday, when he said that none of the offensive linemen even bothered to give Ramsey a hand after he got creamed yet again. And I saw their backs miss one-on-one blocks each time Cowboys blitzed, which they did on every single play. I don't know if their players are undercoached or simple don't know how to play, but they seem to be missing team chemistry.

Digilism: I'm still not sold on Dalas. The problem I have with them is that they haven't won to many games, but rather their oponents lost those games. Just look at the Giants and Eagles games. They shouldn't have won the Skins game either if skins could protect the quarterback at least half of the time. It could be argued that you're as good as your record is, so I guess we'll have to see where cowboys are after a few more weeks.

Yes ummm you do realise no one has effectively scored points off Dallas turnovers.

I do believe Tampa was held to two field goals and a TD(due to special teams penalty) on turnovers in Dallas territory. People really need to start giving credit where credit is due, and thats the defense. Their defense is GREAT, and still ranked #1 in the NFL. You might not be sold on the Cowboys but you do need to give credit where credit is do and thats Dallas' steller defense.

Dude, their defense blew 14 point 4th quarter lead to the giants. They also lost to pathetic falcons. Either way that's not what I was saying. Dallas has a good team. They just have the least amount of big name players, compared to other teams in NFC east. They do have a bunch of players playing above expectations, which is a signature of Bill Parcells team.


They also held the #4 offense in the league to 16 points. Their avg yards given up per game is 240. The defense wasnt that greatest in the Falcons and Giants game, but in all other games they have been fairly dominate. And I point out again, they are ranked #1 overall on defense.
 
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Argo
Despite what people say, NFC east is the toughest division in football. Talentwise the worst team is Dallas and they're leading the division. The reason all the teams have bad records is because the beat down on each other.


Dude, their defense blew 14 point 4th quarter lead to the giants. They also lost to pathetic falcons. Either way that's not what I was saying. Dallas has a good team. They just have the least amount of big name players, compared to other teams in NFC east. They do have a bunch of players playing above expectations, which is a signature of Bill Parcells team.


I hope you're not equating "big name players" with "talent". hello jason sehorn.

Actually Sehorn was pretty good until he tore his ACL. He never fully came back after that injury.
 
The skins currently have no O-line, are using 3rd and 4rth string backs, and have a "2nd year" (more like rookie) QB leading the offense (who is an absolute warrior for taking the hits he has so far). They have no play maker in their D-line so they are soft against the run/have a weak pass rush, and the DB's are banged up. Look at the success of the first part of the season and you see the potential the team has. But it's still a young team, with some holes in it that hasn't had time to gel yet. Spurrier is doing a much better job this year than last year and, IMO, is "unlearning" his college habbits and adapting well to the NFL. Assuming the team does good in the off-season I think the 'Skins will be a team to beat next season, and might even make a Super Bowl run in 2 seasons.

You have to give a team and a coaching staff time to build and mature. You can't build a stable, winning team in a season. That's been part of Washington's problem for the past, oh, 13 years or so. No one, save for Turner, has been given the chance to build a team. There is not enough patience in Washington's front office.


Lethal
 
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