I wonder if this stuff is true...

JohnCU

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Kinda scary...

The sunlight reaching Earth's surface is getting feebler. Assuming there's nothing wrong with the sun, some unknown atmospheric factor is steadily darkening the planet.

I've never heard of that, anyone else?
 

Eli

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That is really interesting....

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I've always said we don't know sh!t in the grand scheme of things.
 

Aharami

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hmmm interesting stuff. esp the one about earth leaving its orbit. wonder how valid are these assumptions/calculations
 

JohnCU

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I did some searching, here's more info on Global Dimming

But Farquhar had realised that the idea of global dimming could explain one of the most puzzling mysteries of climate science. As the Earth warms, you would expect the rate at which water evaporates to increase. But in fact, study after study using metal pans filled with water has shown that the rate of evaporation has gone down in recent years. When Farquhar compared evaporation data with the global dimming records he got a perfect match. The reduced evaporation was down to less sunlight shining on the water surface.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
I did some searching, here's more info on Global Dimming

But Farquhar had realised that the idea of global dimming could explain one of the most puzzling mysteries of climate science. As the Earth warms, you would expect the rate at which water evaporates to increase. But in fact, study after study using metal pans filled with water has shown that the rate of evaporation has gone down in recent years. When Farquhar compared evaporation data with the global dimming records he got a perfect match. The reduced evaporation was down to less sunlight shining on the water surface.
I wonder what it is from?

Shouldn't it be easy for them to figure out if its an actual decrease in output from the sun, or the atmosphere absorbing more?
 

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Hey, Ma, stop pullin' them thar rags over dem windahs, i is losin' light in 'ere!
 

GoodRevrnd

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Good, this should counter all the greenhouse gasses so in the end we come out even.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: JohnCU
I did some searching, here's more info on Global Dimming

But Farquhar had realised that the idea of global dimming could explain one of the most puzzling mysteries of climate science. As the Earth warms, you would expect the rate at which water evaporates to increase. But in fact, study after study using metal pans filled with water has shown that the rate of evaporation has gone down in recent years. When Farquhar compared evaporation data with the global dimming records he got a perfect match. The reduced evaporation was down to less sunlight shining on the water surface.
I wonder what it is from?

Shouldn't it be easy for them to figure out if its an actual decrease in output from the sun, or the atmosphere absorbing more?

Article says it could be pollutants/aersols in the air reflecting sunlight...
 

StageLeft

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Impossible! Our scientists will fix it. They fix everything!

Anyway, this guy takes his possible good points and undermines his sanity with the sh*t at the end
Planetary insolvency: How would insurance companies pay for the devastation if an extinction-level asteroid were to collide with Earth? They wouldn't. They'd go broke. Worse yet, storms, floods, fires, and earthquakes could do the job first.
Evidence: A 2002 report issued by reinsurance behemoth Munich Re Group notes that insurance payouts for natural disasters are rising as climate change kicks in and more people in disaster-prone areas buy policies. If the trend continues, by 2050 payments will exceed the combined current GNP of every nation on the planet, no asteroid required.
Implications: In a brief 50 years, Mother Earth will be disrupting human enterprises faster than we can rebuild them. Earth will be bankrupt and no longer a viable commercial concern. What will life be like then? Well, nobody knows.
Paranoid, much? Moron.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Impossible! Our scientists will fix it. They fix everything!

Anyway, this guy takes his possible good points and undermines his sanity with the sh*t at the end
Planetary insolvency: How would insurance companies pay for the devastation if an extinction-level asteroid were to collide with Earth? They wouldn't. They'd go broke. Worse yet, storms, floods, fires, and earthquakes could do the job first.
Evidence: A 2002 report issued by reinsurance behemoth Munich Re Group notes that insurance payouts for natural disasters are rising as climate change kicks in and more people in disaster-prone areas buy policies. If the trend continues, by 2050 payments will exceed the combined current GNP of every nation on the planet, no asteroid required.
Implications: In a brief 50 years, Mother Earth will be disrupting human enterprises faster than we can rebuild them. Earth will be bankrupt and no longer a viable commercial concern. What will life be like then? Well, nobody knows.
Paranoid, much? Moron.
Heh.

Between Peak Oil, Globlal Warming, Global Dimming and Insurance Payouts... let's face it, we're fscked.

:D
 

Demon-Xanth

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Oh yeah, recently there was a study that found that the sun was heating up and causing global heating on uranus. Think there might be any connection here?

Sun heats up.
Planet warms.
Less visible light gets to Earth.

Maybe the wavelength just changed due to the temperature of the burning ball of gas. Lets face it, we can't change that.
 

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Well, that settles it. There's no reason to put off heavy drinking any longer.

SSHHHH! don't tell Skoorbie!!

He might have to post it a THIRD time!
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:p

-TekChik
 

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Implications: In a brief 50 years, Mother Earth will be disrupting human enterprises faster than we can rebuild them. Earth will be bankrupt and no longer a viable commercial concern. What will life be like then? Well, nobody knows.

At my age, I have nothing to worry about.
;)
 

DrPizza

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Nah, I don't find that scary... I've grown used to the fact that there are a lot of nutcases out there who think they're scientists.