I went to best buy and CC and talk about the talk lol

etrin

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Well I hate sony...don't get me started but their xbr2 lcos systems are awesome.The only other one with this tech is JVC and no one stocks them...maybe end of year for them.

well I don't know jack and when I said "well 2 HDMI inputs is better than 1"and spelled it out
the guy says oh man you need "Hem DI" that is how he pronounced it.
Matter of fact every salesman said this. WHAT IS IT?

I asked what he was talking about and he said that was the new std for HDMI connections and cables.

How many people really pay $179 for a 6 foot monster cable ?
Will you see $150 better picture than the std cables?


 
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I'm not really understanding your thread. Are you just remarking about the well known stupid Best Buy (and most other big box retailers) employees and overpriced Monster cables, or are you actually asking something?

I don't know what they're talking about with Hem-D-I, I'm guessing they're retarded and one of them thought it'd be clever to try to turn the acronym HDMI into a word so they sound smart, but there isn't any new port. HDMI has been upgraded a little while back to version 1.3, and there have been some other alternatives talked about (and in the PC realm, a lot of companies have jumped on board DisplayPort but nothing uses it yet) but nothing will replace HDMI for quite a while.

Too many people pay for Monster cables (a big part of the reason is how they sell them by stocking mostly them and then having salesmen claim how much better they are). Its possible that you might get a better picture, however generally it would be marginal at best and would only be necessary in situations where you're running the cables a long distance. You'd be much better off going to a site like Monoprice or CablesForLess and getting cables from there. They have a better variety (size, types, lengths) and much more reasonable prices.
 

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wat u guyz r tlk abut? i gt sum monster subwoffer kabls n dey make my subwoffer lowder.

Seriously though.
HDMI, nothing has changed with them since 1.0. They can differ in inside wire gauges and fancy connectors, that is about the only difference between them all.
The revision of HDMI is only in the HDMI device themselves and are suppose to sync with all HDMI devices regardless of revision.

Although it is funny how he was making fun of CC employees and then immediately turned his rage towards over-priced Monster cables.

BTW, Gold tipped TOSLINK cables are over-priced :p
 

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Although it is funny how he was making fun of CC employees and then immediately turned his rage towards over-priced Monster cables.
Don't forget the shot across Sony's bow, to start the rant. :evil:

OP, since you "don't know jack" here is the wiki on HDMI Feel free to explore the links as well. BTW, HDMI is an acronym, so you said it correctly. They were probably Fin' with you, hoping you'd run off and start using HemDI now. IME, a brief conversation with most employees of those B&Ms quickly turned into a laughable one. I ask them politely to leave me be now. ;)

Suggestion: Research whatever you are interested in, including industry terms and jargon, and visit the forums here and elsewhere, and never rely on the JAFOs that work for superstores.



 

etrin

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Sorry for sticking a full night of frustration into one post.

I started out looking at tv's and then the salesman I wanted to see an LCOS system next to the others, and no JVC anywhere, that is not why I said I hate sony, trashed HD because of their audio CD, but back to the topic I DID NOT stick with, I told the BB guy I was looking for LCOS and I didn't want to see a sony, that is when he started that Hemdi stuff and how it was in every Sony.

After a while I said BS and left stopped by CC on the way home and they were doing the same thing....The best HDMI you can get and the newest is Hem DI....oh here we go again.
Of course when I asked to see a cable...it was a monster HDMI cable...I said wow only $159 for that one. He just said well the new stuff is expensive.

I just had to ask if something new had been thrown in I was really expecting to hear exactly what you guys did say....NOTHING


 

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
JVC over Sony XBR? Are you out of your mind?

He's not completely off his rocker - they both use the same technology and the pictures are close enough that to some, the ~$500 price difference at a given screen size is justifiable since you could then afford better source components. Would I ever say that the JVC's PQ is better? No. But, all things taken into account...
 

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In my humble opinion, The JVC RS1 is the best projector on the market right now under $15,000, and the MSRP is "only" $6,000. I'd say JVC is definitely moving up in the picture quality department.
 

dclive

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Digital is digital. If it can send the 01010101, it will be sent, and they all error-correct nowadays. There's no difference between the $12 Amazon special on HDMI and the $169 Monster Cable version of the same.
 

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Originally posted by: dclive
Digital is digital. If it can send the 01010101, it will be sent, and they all error-correct nowadays. There's no difference between the $12 Amazon special on HDMI and the $169 Monster Cable version of the same.

Not entirely true, there is some reason to get a base level of quality in even digital cables. Mostly true, though.

JVC is great, very underrated imho.
 

dclive

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Interesting. Can you quantify the differences between the $11 cable and the $169 cable, when you're looking at the TV?
 

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dclive,

I think the difference in cable construction quality matters more with longer cable runs, or areas with a lot of EMF interference. Also, digital video cables do contribute to levels of jitter, which can make a difference in subtle details and motion artifacting if the rest of the gear is high enough quality.

That being said, in almost all cases, the bottleneck isn't the cable.
 

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Originally posted by: RupTheKid
dclive,

I think the difference in cable construction quality matters more with longer cable runs, or areas with a lot of EMF interference. Also, digital video cables do contribute to levels of jitter, which can make a difference in subtle details and motion artifacting if the rest of the gear is high enough quality.

That being said, in almost all cases, the bottleneck isn't the cable.

Just as an additional. For lengths greater than 12' (or there about), signal loss is the greatest concern. It can definitely cause some artifacting on poor quality DVI cabling. Shielding is not as critical. These issues can be compensated by a robust error correction on the receiving device. Even on short runs, a very bad cable can potentially introduce problems (though, as mentioned, it's quite rare).

It's certainly not analogous to an analog cable; when you have issues they'll be blatant like macroblocking or apparently stuck pixels. I've heard of the jitter concern before but do not have experience or knowledge to contribute to that discussion.

The 6' DVI cable that I use for my display cost $10, so I do not mean to imply you should go out and buy really expensive cables.
 

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Styx isn't all that bad. It's a forgivable guilty pleasure :).

Slammy1, you're right about the difference between analog and digital cable. I'm certainly not one to push expensive cables either...I think I was making discussion for the sake of arguement, just to waste some time.
 

Slammy1

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You were correct and informed in all things you said. There have been any number of threads discussing the ideals of cable pricing/performance, but mainly (as you said) for the purists who want their PC in a closet 25' away where you can't hear anything (the true silent PC project).

<Happy Gilmore>Styx was the greatest band ever</Happy Gilmore>.