I welcome our new Tizen Overlords

Joe1987

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A lot of consumers really don't care what OS is on their phone, as long as it has the apps they use and the functionality they need. Including me.
 

bearxor

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Samsung is really serious about Tizen. They're porting their Android applications to it like mad. It could be a way out of Android for them.
 

Germanic

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If Samsung shifts to Tizen and discontinues its Android lineup then Tizen will totally eclipse Android. Samsung is Android when it comes to market share and profitability. Samsung leaving Android will mean Android will cease to exist because no other company has the magnitude and marketing power as Samsung/Apple.
 

Joe1987

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Samsung has a few reasons for developing Tizen

It gives them leverage over Google

If they can monetize Tizen with their own app store, mining demographic data, and ads, there's some serious $ to be made.

Gives them a backup if Android gets to legally cumbersome to continue using.
 

Dari

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Samsung is really serious about Tizen. They're porting their Android applications to it like mad. It could be a way out of Android for them.

Yeah, cause Android has been so bad for them:rolleyes:

This I'll never fly. It'll be another Bada...
 

Dari

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If Samsung shifts to Tizen and discontinues its Android lineup then Tizen will totally eclipse Android. Samsung is Android when it comes to market share and profitability. Samsung leaving Android will mean Android will cease to exist because no other company has the magnitude and marketing power as Samsung/Apple.

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Samsung has a few reasons for developing Tizen

It gives them leverage over Google

If they can monetize Tizen with their own app store, mining demographic data, and ads, there's some serious $ to be made.

Gives them a backup if Android gets to legally cumbersome to continue using.

Join Date: July 2013
Status: Samsung Army, Private
 
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Joe1987

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Join Date: May 2013
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Riiiggghhhhtt, I'm a paid shill for Samsung, and I wrote that whitelisted benchmark code for the G4 too.
 

Raduque

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Aren't I part of the LG Army as well?

And you're the captain for the sony army.

Riiiggghhhhtt, I'm a paid shill for Samsung, and I wrote that whitelisted benchmark code for the G4 too.

Don't mind him. He just has an irrational hateon for Samsung. Never has anything useful to say, so everybody in MD&G should put him on the ignore list.
 

bearxor

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Yeah, cause Android has been so bad for them:rolleyes:

This I'll never fly. It'll be another Bada...

When I said that, I meant it as kind of an emergency option for Samsung in case something happened with Android. Like say, I don't know, Google buying a handset maker and then giving that maker preferential treatment with regards to Android.

I'm not saying that HAS happened, only that it COULD happen and it's always a wise idea to have a backup plan. Right, Nokia?
 

foghorn67

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When I said that, I meant it as kind of an emergency option for Samsung in case something happened with Android. Like say, I don't know, Google buying a handset maker and then giving that maker preferential treatment with regards to Android.

I'm not saying that HAS happened, only that it COULD happen and it's always a wise idea to have a backup plan. Right, Nokia?

That hasn't happened. Motorola hasn't gotten anything preferential.
If it came out with 4.3 right out of the gate, yeah.
If Samsung saw it that way, they are a bunch of babies.
 

Joe1987

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When I said that, I meant it as kind of an emergency option for Samsung in case something happened with Android. Like say, I don't know, Google buying a handset maker and then giving that maker preferential treatment with regards to Android.

I'm not saying that HAS happened, only that it COULD happen and it's always a wise idea to have a backup plan. Right, Nokia?

I think Google is obligated to keep Android open sourced, but I don't think they're obligated to continue to update it. They could abandon further development, and come up with another OS or just get out of the game and write killer apps (like they already do) to monetize mobile.
 

bearxor

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That hasn't happened. Motorola hasn't gotten anything preferential.
If it came out with 4.3 right out of the gate, yeah.
If Samsung saw it that way, they are a bunch of babies.

Come on, dude. Read the whole thing. I very clearly say that it hasn't happened. There's just the possibility that it could.

And Samsungs been investing in Tizen for a whole now.
 

Mondozei

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Samsung is really serious about Tizen. They're porting their Android applications to it like mad. It could be a way out of Android for them.

Except that 2013 isnt 2012 and not just for the obvious reasons(time).

In 2012 you only really had Samsung that could stand up to Apple in terms of quality. Some people will contest this but no, you're just wrong. Results don't lie.

Only Samsung could match Apple for sales. Everyone else in the Android space was far behind.

In 2013 we have the re-emergance of Sony and HTC and LG is now also back on track.
Asus and Acer are both gearing up and they have the know-how to do a good phone.

If Samsung goes with Tizen there's plenty of people more than willing to offer people phones as good or better than the Galaxy series.

Android isn't as reliant on Samsung as it was, say, even half a year ago. If Samsung says "we quit Android" you won't have any panic anymore because people know there are a ton of good options.

And with Tizen, Samsung would go down the Apple route, only with being superlate to everything.
It's an open secret that developers for Tizen have been extremely standoffish, to the extent that some people are even pronouncing Tizen "dead"(which forced Intel, one of the major backers of the platform, to rush out and deny the rumors).

And according to a recent developer survey both Firefox and the (now, sadly, unlikely) Ubuntu OS had higher interest despite starting from a much smaller base.

Here's the survey
 

boomhower

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If they put it on nice phones for bottom line prices they have a chance with it. Most people have Android phones because they are the cheap smartphones with big screens. The average soccer mom and joe six pack don't know a lot of anything about smartphones. They buy the cheap/free phone that has apps and a big screen. This could compete in that market. Cell buyers like those of us here are the minority.
 

StrangerGuy

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If they put it on nice phones for bottom line prices they have a chance with it. Most people have Android phones because they are the cheap smartphones with big screens. The average soccer mom and joe six pack don't know a lot of anything about smartphones. They buy the cheap/free phone that has apps and a big screen. This could compete in that market. Cell buyers like those of us here are the minority.

Uhhhh Android have shitton of apps. What would Tizen have?