I was just thinking how ironic it would be if the climate deniers...

[desy]

Yes it has warmed, but yes it has been warmer, just not at this pace without a major natural event to explain it

 

[Moonbeam]

No he doesn't. We were over-due for a storm like that and it's meaningless in the context of AGW. I think it's funny to see people support silly statements like this just because the person stating them has the same political leanings as themselves.

Yes, your silly statement IS pretty funny and typical of your ilk.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's pretty disgraceful how low AGW has sunk over the years. Today they basically spend their days hoping that there will be some form of natural disaster (the same that has been happening since long before there were humans on the earth) so they can climb up on top of a pile of coffins and scream that it wouldn't have happened if we paid higher taxes or voted for a different group of corrupt politicians.

I know. I see them all the time after the big storms rummaging around in the rubble and rubbing their hands in corpses.

 

[Moonbeam]

Except the world hasn't really warmed and it has been warmer. Basically everyone is bitching about the unknown because they're scared children. We aren't going through anything unusual.

What is it, unknown or normal, Mr Romney. Try to stick with one or the other for more than a minute.

 

[sigurros81]

This guy is completely insane. Using the suffering and hardship of millions of people to make callous and petty political jabs. It's cheap and crude. News flash, this type of radical posting is not helping your party and certainly is not drawing in logical, intellectual and educated independent voters the Democrat party is clamoring for.

Take that branch out of your ass, scrub.

 

[chucky2]

Perhaps the most ironic thing of all would be the large number of Dem's, and hence as a % a larger number of Believers, being affected by what they Believe to be caused by mans affect on climate...

...being the ones affecting climate the most with massive 1st world Western population centers, and everything that must be done against Earth to support the lifestyle these Believers have themselves chosen by their decisions.

There is no greater ironing than that... 😀

Chuck

 

[Nemesis 1]

lose because of the weather. Their anti government stance screwed them with Katrina and Isaac screwed their convention, then along comes Sandy, the deadly lady that reversed Romney's momentum and tipped the race to Obama. It's not nice to stick your head in the sand and let the Mother Nature blow your ass away. Time to take climate change seriously, no?

Really? So you believe Mother nature attacked the region where Demon power is at its Zenieth. To help obama . I would say it was a warning to the Blues states to Change . A change we can hope for your good ideas go against all common sense , consider the Rich and powerful control both parties you mindless ass. I don't like demons or repulsives but at least the repulsives have hope and Faith on their side. Charity is there also. But as long as people feel there taxes go to supporting the poor and ill. Their really not a need to be a charitable person ., What do the poor give to society other than misery? Forced Charity(taxes) Destroys Charity from the heart. It steals from the one the satisfaction of saying .... I MAKE A DIFFERANCE . We make a differance is war talk.

 

[werepossum]

Isn't it amusing that those people who "think" climate was constant until evil mankind changed it call their opponents "climate deniers"?

 

[CZroe]

Thank you. It's good to hear the opinion of a professional moron. A lot of them, however get paid for theirs. There are, however, a different kind of professionals called scientists who are bound by experiment and data to corroborate their ideas so no, I'm not your wet dream.

Money corrupts no matter where it comes from, be it a corporation that wants results favorable to them or a a scientist who wants to keep the concern alive and the grant-money flowing from governments and other sources.

 

[Moonbeam]

Money corrupts no matter where it comes from, be it a corporation that wants results favorable to them or a a scientist who wants to keep the concern alive and the grant-money flowing from governments and other sources.

Ah, thank you for that peek into your dementia. Your brain must be full of money.

 

[CZroe]

Ah, thank you for that peek into your dementia. Your brain must be full of money.

It is. It has much influence.

 

[Moonbeam]

Isn't it amusing that those people who "think" climate was constant until evil mankind changed it call their opponents "climate deniers"?

Actually that's not nearly as amusing as your assumption we thought the climate was static. It must be fun to make up shit so you have something to argue. But you're probably right. Nobody ever heard of the Ice Age. Stop sitting on your brain.

 

[Moonbeam]

It is. It has much influence.

Yup, it corrupted it just like you said.

 

[sm625]

This country is dumbed down enough that they are totally ready for a global tax. A tax paid to the already stinking rich so they will have even more money to spend on figuring how to make you even dumber so you'll surrender even more to them. So yeah you go right on spewing that propaganda like a good little braindead zombie. But dont think for one second that any global carbon tax money is actually going to be used to help the environment in any way, save for one: when they kill you off you will be one less source of carbon emissions. So drink your fluoridated water, eat that rat-massacring GMO, and take that big-pharma cocktail of pills.

 

[werepossum]

Actually that's not nearly as amusing as your assumption we thought the climate was static. It must be fun to make up shit so you have something to argue. But you're probably right. Nobody ever heard of the Ice Age. Stop sitting on your brain.

Look up Mann's hockey stick graph - proggies canceled the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age in their pursuit of unbridled power.

 

[CZroe]

Yup, it corrupted it just like you said.

Yes. Money paid me to say that it is the root of all evil. That's why I said it.

It's actually motivation, good (free market) or bad (influence peddling). The source of it matters less than the fact that it is available and that continued availability influences opinions (bias).

 

[IGBT]

liberals thrive on fear and crisis which explains why they gravitate towards global warming / cooling / the sky is falling. And craft structured deceptions and voodoo science to support it. They cite any unseasonable change in weather as "proof" to further politicize the weather.

 

[desy]

Just the opposite actually
Conservative kids are the ones who live in fear

http://health.usnews.com/health-new...-conservative-study-finds-childhood-influence

The researchers found that children with authoritarian parents were more likely to have conservative political beliefs when they were 18, while those with egalitarian parents were more likely to have liberal beliefs.

The findings held true even after the researchers accounted for factors such as gender, ethnic background and socioeconomic status, according to the study, which was published online this month in the journal Psychological Science.

The findings are consistent with theories from political psychology, said R. Chris Fraley, a psychological scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and colleagues.

As for temperament, children who were more fearful when they were between 4 and 5 were more likely to be conservative at age 18, while those who were more active and able to focus their attention were more likely to be liberal at age 18, according to a journal news release.

 

[Matt1970]

lose because of the weather. Their anti government stance screwed them with Katrina and Isaac screwed their convention, then along comes Sandy, the deadly lady that reversed Romney's momentum and tipped the race to Obama. It's not nice to stick your head in the sand and let the Mother Nature blow your ass away. Time to take climate change seriously, no?

Same shit we heard in 2005 and then a few years of below average hurricane seasons proves these are just part of a natural cycle that has been going on for as long as we have been keeping records.

1886 -10 Hurricanes of which 4 were major
2012 -10 Hurricanes of which 1 were major

BTW, why aren’t you directing your rage at Russia and China who are absolutely laying waste to their environment? Did you know that a large portion of the pollution in Los Angeles actually originates from China? But….but….but it’s the Conservatives fault……..

 

[Nemesis 1]

Just the opposite actually
Conservative kids are the ones who live in fear

http://health.usnews.com/health-new...-conservative-study-finds-childhood-influence

The researchers found that children with authoritarian parents were more likely to have conservative political beliefs when they were 18, while those with egalitarian parents were more likely to have liberal beliefs.

The findings held true even after the researchers accounted for factors such as gender, ethnic background and socioeconomic status, according to the study, which was published online this month in the journal Psychological Science.

The findings are consistent with theories from political psychology, said R. Chris Fraley, a psychological scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and colleagues.

As for temperament, children who were more fearful when they were between 4 and 5 were more likely to be conservative at age 18, while those who were more active and able to focus their attention were more likely to be liberal at age 18, according to a journal news release.

There must be accountability. You spin it whatever way you like. Doesn't hurt me at all.

 

[Moonbeam]

Same shit we heard in 2005 and then a few years of below average hurricane seasons proves these are just part of a natural cycle that has been going on for as long as we have been keeping records.

1886 -10 Hurricanes of which 4 were major
2012 -10 Hurricanes of which 1 were major

BTW, why aren’t you directing your rage at Russia and China who are absolutely laying waste to their environment? Did you know that a large portion of the pollution in Los Angeles actually originates from China? But….but….but it’s the Conservatives fault……..

I love it when conservative try to do science. I would argue with you but not only is it totally useless since you can't think, but also because I can't either right now because I'm laughing too hard.

 

[Moonbeam]

Just the opposite actually
Conservative kids are the ones who live in fear

http://health.usnews.com/health-new...-conservative-study-finds-childhood-influence

The researchers found that children with authoritarian parents were more likely to have conservative political beliefs when they were 18, while those with egalitarian parents were more likely to have liberal beliefs.

The findings held true even after the researchers accounted for factors such as gender, ethnic background and socioeconomic status, according to the study, which was published online this month in the journal Psychological Science.

The findings are consistent with theories from political psychology, said R. Chris Fraley, a psychological scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and colleagues.

As for temperament, children who were more fearful when they were between 4 and 5 were more likely to be conservative at age 18, while those who were more active and able to focus their attention were more likely to be liberal at age 18, according to a journal news release.

The other astonishing thing about this thread besides the denial is their accusation that liberals react with fear. I just created a thread on the study you mentioned but there are many more indicting the conservative mind as a product of fear, especially the brain scans that show conservatives have enlarged fear centers in their brains. What we are seeing is the endless conservative projection of their inner reality out onto the world and in particular, liberals. We are their fears because they are too afraid to see their own fear themselves. They are frightened cowards experiencing paranoid delusions that their fears are out to get them. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

 

[desy]

They further define it, authorative and authortarian
Authorative have boundaries but still let kids be themselves, authortarian 'daddy knows best'

 

[Nemesis 1]

They further define it, authorative and authortarian
Authorative have boundaries but still let kids be themselves, authortarian 'daddy knows best'

SO you hate your daddy . To bad sorry you got a horses ass for parents . I had good parents . Who did teach in doing wrong much pain can be garnished. Great lessons to bad law forbids it now . But of course we ignor these laws . I haven't seen anyone arrested for using the rod as distractor. Spare the rod spoil the child

 

[desy]

More of a jewish thing, I'm a Christian

Proverbs 13.24 says the following— “those who spare the rod hate their children, but those who love them are diligent to discipline them.” The axiom ‘spare the rod and spoil the child’ appears to derive from paraphrasing the KJV 1611 mistranslation of the Hebrew text.
It is interesting that OT scholars who are experts in Wisdom literature have suggested the material like we find in Proverbs 13 is for more mature disciples of the sage, not for beginners. That is, it is advice given to those wise enough, and mature enough to know how to use and not abuse the advice. Think for a minute about times you were disciplined growing up (if you were). Was physical discipline applied to you when parents got angry and used it as an expression of their wrath?

If so, a good case can be made for that being an abuse of the privilege of disciplining your children, something which must be done dispassionately, fairly, in an appropriate measured way and not as outlet for one’s anger. Here the advice must be taken in the context of everything the NT says about anger. For example: 1) Ephes. 4.26– be angry but sin not; 2) ‘Father’s do not provoke your children to anger’ Ephes. 6.4 (a verse that seems apposite in the Creflo Dollar case); 3) James 1.19-20 says we must be slow to anger, and that the anger of human beings does not produce the righteousness of God.