I was at the DC tea party yesterday...

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

That's bad enough.

Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson? Are you kidding me? Heros?

Maybe to the ignorant masses who want rubber-stamping dittohead morons. Wilson is a joke and a liar himself. Especially considering he has taken hundreds of thousands in donations from healthcare companies.

The teabaggers are morons. They fail to realize that they have failed this country in the last 30 years, first by supporting the dipshit Reagan, then continuing the folly by supporting Bush Sr., and Bush Jr.. Those 3 racked up 90% of the debt we currently have and put us into an unsustainable position of spend/debt. Bush Jr. did the most damage by his ridiculous financial foolishness.

If the Repuglicans were anything more than hypocrits, I'd be proud to identify with them. However, they need to come clean on their past, acknowledge that their "heroes" are nothing more than RINOS, and come up with TRUE Republican leaders.

Nah, they're true Republicans. Sarah Palin is a fair representation of the Republican Party. To claim Palin and Wilson don't represent the Republican Party is every bit as faulty as claiming that the modern Republican Party is the "Party of Lincoln". The party of Eisenhower and Nixon was buried with the ascendancy of Reagan, his happy-head free market frat boys, and the Christian Right.

Yes, they are "true" Republicans, in the Repuglican "RINO" sense. It's sad to see how the old party was tossed aside so blithely for the sake of fundamentalist zeal.

People wonder why 30-somethings like me are so fed up with the Repuglicans and are willing to go towards the Democrats. It's because the Repuglicans are so far left of the Democrats that they are far better Democrats than the Democrats.

I say this continually because the one Democrat president we had in the last 30 years was the *ONLY* one to run a surplus AND stopped the Repuglican congress from trying to spend it back into a deficit. Gingrich and his ilk tried to break the Contract With America long before Bush went into power, mainly because they can't stop themselves from spending everything possible.

They are the true liberals here.

 

[jpeyton]

I love the picture of the protester with the "Obama = Nazi" sign.

This country has 300 million people. We have more than enough crazies to fill a pointless tea party protest.

These "anger" based movements (tea party, PUMA) fizzle as quickly as they sizzle. It's fun to watch.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: waggy

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.

I assume you're sick of the spending, because federal taxes are at a 50 year low.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I love the picture of the protester with the "Obama = Nazi" sign.

This country has 300 million people. We have more than enough crazies to fill a pointless tea party protest.

It's fun to watch.

Even more fun watching the Republican whackos from here participating :laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Yeah, it's very convenient for those than can't or won't understand the reasons behind this movement to associate it with political affiliation, to associate it with race, etc. Naturally of course, you could try to explain it to the die-hards until you were blue in the face and there would be no affect.

I just don't see how people can ignore the financial aspects of what is happening, what has been happening in this country for decades. Personally, I don't think it can be turned around at this point. But I also don't think that we should throw our hands in the air, acquiesce and thereby ensure that we go down in flames.

An effort must be made to try to bring this nation back to fiscal responsibility. We were told during the campaigns, that sacrifices would have to be made. A truer statement has not been spoken. It may be different than what some imagined.

"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains." Winston Churchill

I was right there with the tea party movement when I was naive enough to think it was primarily about promoting fiscal responsibility. That is something I strongly, strongly support. Then the racists and morons deifying the likes of Palin and Plumber, and hell even Reagan, either infiltrated the group or revealed themselves as being there from the beginning and turned me off pretty quick. Are there people part of this group that legitimately want to reign in wasteful government spending? I'm sure there are, and they need to start keeping better company than the racists and partisan dimwits to further their (our) legitimate cause.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I love the picture of the protester with the "Obama = Nazi" sign.

This country has 300 million people. We have more than enough crazies to fill a pointless tea party protest.

These "anger" based movements (tea party, PUMA) fizzle as quickly as they sizzle. It's fun to watch.

One of my coworkers came to work one day with a flier that a guy in NYC was handing out. He shoved it in my coworkers hands.

It was a pamphlet put out by LaRoach with Obama with Hilter in the same picture, calling Obama a Nazi.

My coworker, who is black, just shook his head.

Why do people think that a half-black/white guy and a Jewish gay guy, equate to Nazis?

It's truly amazing to me how ridiculous some in this country are.

What's even more sad is that they say they represent the Republicans. But they don't, which only alienates more voters from them.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: waggy

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.

I assume you're sick of the spending, because federal taxes are at a 50 year low.

Really because Obama and Congress haven't had a chance to rescind all that lowering of taxes for the wealthy yet.

He's sick of it?

I don't see anything stopping him from leaving.

One way tickets out of here are cheap now too.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: waggy

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.

I assume you're sick of the spending, because federal taxes are at a 50 year low.

Really because Obama and Congress haven't had a chance to rescind all that lowering of taxes for the wealthy yet.

He's sick of it?

I don't see anything stopping him from leaving.

One way tickets out of here are cheap now too.

Other than cigarette taxes, the majority of people in this country received a tax cut under the current Congress and administration. When counting the federal tax break ($400 per person), most people who smoke still received a break. We could just keep running on the ole Laffer curve though to see if we are past the breaking point yet. Maybe we can go to ZERO taxes and generate infinite revenue!

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.

Congress might care if this reaches the ballot box, until then people will keep the two incumbent parties in power and none of them are going to care what the people think of them.

 

[MovingTarget]

I wish I could go to one of these. Increasing spending/debt is a legitimate thing to protest, but if those protesting currently were to rise back into political power, we'd be stuck with the likes of Palin who would suddenly forget about that silly deficit nonsense. Reagan and Bush 2 were great at railing against spending all the while running up the national credit card with no plan to pay for it all. A return to their idealogies is the last thing this country needs in the next few elections. I suspect though, that they are protesting for many other reasons and only paying lipservice to the spending issue as a unifying element...

 

[ScottyB]

So, were there a lot of nuts in your face while you went tea-bagging?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
So, were there a lot of nuts in your face while you went tea-bagging?

Get your fresh bag of nuts, right here.

Is anybody disturbed by the fact that GTaudiophile voluntarily admitted to being associated with those people?

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I saw it on cnn.com. Apparently there were tends of thousands.

When Obama shows up, there's never enough room to hold all of his supporters, and the racist, right wing christian fanaticals could only manage "tens of thousands"?

Hmmm, 10 months later, reason still wins.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are these supposed to be arguments of some kind? These statements were old and tired the first time they were spoken and they're not getting any more relevant as time goes on.

Apparently Clinton getting a blowjob will live eternal tho.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

There probably would have been more people, but even an army of Greyhound buses will only hold so many racist dumbasses.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ScottyB
So, were there a lot of nuts in your face while you went tea-bagging?

Get your fresh bag of nuts, right here.

Is anybody disturbed by the fact that GTaudiophile voluntarily admitted to being associated with those people?

It's refreshing

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I was there. I marched from near the White House to the Capitol building in a constant stream of people along Pennsylvania Ave. that lasted for four house.

These were people from all fifty states who came on their own volition.

Basically everything boiled down to a distrust of government in general.

Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.

Where were you and the rest of the dolts when your heroes were in control doing the spending?

The only thing you're in control of is your hatred for this country.

You'all should spent the money on one way tickets out of here.

What's strange is that they will freely admit that Republicans have racked up the spending that they claim to hate so much. They might not specifically know that in historical terms the deficit goes up faster under Republicans than Democrats, and they might not know that the vast majority of the national debt was racked up by Reagan and the two Bushes, but they generally know Republicans do the same thing.

None of this will stop them from eagerly pulling the Republican lever next November.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I was there. I marched from near the White House to the Capitol building in a constant stream of people along Pennsylvania Ave. that lasted for four house.

These were people from all fifty states who came on their own volition.

Basically everything boiled down to a distrust of government in general.

Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.

Where were you and the rest of the dolts when your heroes were in control doing the spending?

The only thing you're in control of is your hatred for this country.

You'all should spent the money on one way tickets out of here.

What's strange is that they will freely admit that Republicans have racked up the spending that they claim to hate so much. They might not specifically know that in historical terms the deficit goes up faster under Republicans than Democrats, and they might not know that the vast majority of the national debt was racked up by Reagan and the two Bushes, but they generally know Republicans do the same thing.

None of this will stop them from eagerly pulling the Republican lever next November.

Just like they can't stop listening to Rush, Hannity , Levin, Palin, Beck and the rest.

Mind drugs is just as bad

 

[PJABBER]

Doesn't look like too many people on this forum were actually at the march and are getting most of their (mis)information from the media talking heads and reiterating Democrat talking points.

I live and work in the DC area and I HATE protests as they tie up traffic. I hate crowds as well as they have a tendency to take on an unpleasant life of their own.

Of course, a friend invited me to see a film retrospective of Alain Resnais playing at the National Gallery of Art right around the time the march was wrapping up. I couldn't pass up the chance to see the collection of Resnais shorts and "Muriel, ou Le temps d'un retour" so I drove down there and wound up intermingling with the huge crowds.

And let me assure you, this was no small gathering. It was one of the largest and most geographically diverse crowds I have seen in DC in the past 20 years. These were not locals, they were people who traveled very long distances at significant personal cost and time to make a statement. No matter what they were advocating, they were committed to their causes and their positions. In my opinion, this fervor will not fizzle away any time soon.

Most of the time we see the same motley collection of the Mid-Atlantic East coast unwashed in DC. It is so easy for them to get to town and get loud. The group yesterday was mostly white and middle aged, lots and lots of families with teenagers and young kids, lots of senior citizens, everyone was carrying signs and everyone that I saw was unfailingly polite. Almost sheepish in finding themselves there as part of a movement. Definitely not used to being demonstrators.

This was definitely not a Republican rally but it was definitely anti Democrat leadership (Obama/Reid/Pelosi), if anything the overriding theme was anti big government and anti deficit spending.

Lots of causes being advocated but the most common flag being carried was the Gadsden flag - a historical American flag with a yellow field depicting a rattlesnake coiled and ready to strike. Positioned below the snake is the legend "Don't Tread on Me".

Obama and Biden both left town, they should have stayed to understand the diversity and the intensity of opposition they are now facing.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I would guess that their 75K estimate is accurate. We were hearing things all over the board yesterday, like 500K or more, but I doubt it. Around 100K is probably a good number.

I should reiterate, that at least with the people I spoke with, there was as much displeasure towards Bush for his spending as towards Obama's.

The only "hero" politicians of the day were Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson. There was no apparent "Bush worship" that I saw.

If these are their heroes, the whole lot of them belong in Dogpatch.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

This Tea Party thing was the equivalent of standing outside a Weight Watcher's meeting waving signs that demand The Biggest Loser be taken off the air.

If even one of these people had a sign or stance that didn't reference Hitler or producing a birth certificate in their effort to hide their blatant racist leanings, if they had an actual fact, statistic, anything that supported their stance other than screaming out stupid crap like Obama recommending JK Rowling to shore up his socialist army, I might take them more seriously. But whenever I see these people, it just makes me realize why we haven't been back to the moon, why we're paying 4-5x more for health insurance today than we were 6 years ago, why the Bush administration kept this country under a blanket of fear during his entire post 9/11 administration by tampering with threat levels.

These people are weak minded and don't care to know the facts. They only know there's a well spoken black man in the White House, and like the time he tried to offer pre-schoolers cereal when they got to school in the morning if they didn't have breakfast at home, apparently he's wrong, because he's always going to be wrong because he's not a republican and he's not white.

This is the sad face of an America that will fail at its own hand.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ScottyB
So, were there a lot of nuts in your face while you went tea-bagging?

Get your fresh bag of nuts, right here.

Is anybody disturbed by the fact that GTaudiophile voluntarily admitted to being associated with those people?

A lot of t-shirts in those pics. I wonder where they carry their extra magazines.

Malignancies can pop up in the most unexpected places.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I love the picture of the protester with the "Obama = Nazi" sign.

This country has 300 million people. We have more than enough crazies to fill a pointless tea party protest.

These "anger" based movements (tea party, PUMA) fizzle as quickly as they sizzle. It's fun to watch.

One of my coworkers came to work one day with a flier that a guy in NYC was handing out. He shoved it in my coworkers hands.

It was a pamphlet put out by LaRoach with Obama with Hilter in the same picture, calling Obama a Nazi.

My coworker, who is black, just shook his head.

Why do people think that a half-black/white guy and a Jewish gay guy, equate to Nazis?

It's truly amazing to me how ridiculous some in this country are.

What's even more sad is that they say they represent the Republicans. But they don't, which only alienates more voters from them.

Why? A big lie repeated often enough, etc. Plus the masters on the dark side need to keep their lackeys riled up and doing something to keep them in line.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Triumphalists make mighty sore losers. It isn't that Obama is black, it's that the conservatives lost an election and lost it so badly they couldn't find a way to steal it this time. So they parade around and try to make themselves feel better, mostly by feeding themselves the same BS that got them tossed out of power. Dem prospects for 2010 and 2012 look pretty good. Now if the Dems will quit trying to placate the tea party crowd and start moving the liberal agenda they were elected to implement, we'll all be better off.

I sometimes think expending energy on dragging the neanderthal republicans along is a waste. Maybe britain had the right idea about making a place for the misfits in australia.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Overall, an exciting and energizing event with the overriding purpose to remind Congress that WE THE PEOPLE are in control.

Congress might care if this reaches the ballot box, until then people will keep the two incumbent parties in power and none of them are going to care what the people think of them.

These tea partiers proved last fall that they weren't interested in lower spending when they voted for McCain and the other big government Republicans instead of Paul. They had their chance to vote for a true small government candidate and blew it. Fuck the Republicans, I hope they rot.