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Originally posted by: waggy
personally i kinda agree with them. Im tired of the waste the goverment does. from having the Iraq war for what looks to be a few business. to the cost the Obama admin has done. None of the past few presidents (well besides clinton anyway) has been good.

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.


I also think the Dems are hurting themselves by makeing of the protesters. I watch CNN when i can. but the fact they keep makeing fun of the protesters and calling them racist pisses me off. that kind of shit just makes me turn the channel. I hate Glen beck and can't watch O'rielly for long. The only guy i like is sheperd smith and looking at the women. the rest can take a flying fuck.

these are exactly my views as well. i listen to sheppard smith nearly everyday driving home on my XM radio. he reports the news and after his hour show i have a pretty good idea what is going on nationally and globally. In my book he is the most credible reporter on TV.

I was bitching about all the money we were wasting in Iraq years ago. funny how our government can find trillions of dollars to hunt down Sadaam and bin laden but cant find the balls to spend our money on ourselves with UHC.



 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Here's a video the racist seemingly random will like:

http://www.break.com/index/ask...ecia-the-crack-ho.html

How about the a leader of the Tea Party movement who claims Obama is a "Indonesian Muslim Welfare-Thug in Chief"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fymdNxn82M

This is a leader, this is what the signs show, this is what it's all about. Polls show well over 60% of GOPers either "don't know" or "don't believe" Obama is a US Citizen. Deny Deny Deny all you want. Spin obfuscate lie. The GOP politicians embraced birthers, deathers, and tenthers. You people are paranoid and delusional and it's freaking hysterical to watch you blather and scream, so please keep it coming.
 
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: waggy
personally i kinda agree with them. Im tired of the waste the goverment does. from having the Iraq war for what looks to be a few business. to the cost the Obama admin has done. None of the past few presidents (well besides clinton anyway) has been good.

Taxes are going to rise and rise high. Im sick of it.


I also think the Dems are hurting themselves by makeing of the protesters. I watch CNN when i can. but the fact they keep makeing fun of the protesters and calling them racist pisses me off. that kind of shit just makes me turn the channel. I hate Glen beck and can't watch O'rielly for long. The only guy i like is sheperd smith and looking at the women. the rest can take a flying fuck.

these are exactly my views as well. i listen to sheppard smith nearly everyday driving home on my XM radio. he reports the news and after his hour show i have a pretty good idea what is going on nationally and globally. In my book he is the most credible reporter on TV.

I was bitching about all the money we were wasting in Iraq years ago. funny how our government can find trillions of dollars to hunt down Sadaam and bin laden but cant find the balls to spend our money on ourselves with UHC.

I am going to have to agree with you on one thing, the money wasted in Iraq were wasted, but so were many good lives, more than at 9/11 and there is no fucking memorial day for them, is there? Besides, the day the troops were yanked (as being part of the initial force in BOTH territories and yes, it was Brits on the ground first in both areas to lead the way) you gave up on Afghanistan too.

WE HAD THEM CORNERED!

Now, just send everyone home, no one can live with the civilian casualties it would take on either scene now, it's gone... over... you lost, Al Quaida won.
 

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Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: Deliximus
I can see where overspending by the gov't is concerning. Where were these people when the deficit tripled under the last admin? Or when this heavy deficit spending started under under Reagan, Bush I and II?
Are these supposed to be arguments of some kind? These statements were old and tired the first time they were spoken and they're not getting any more relevant as time goes on.

People have reached a point where it's just too much. The deficit spending has been increasing and increasing and they've reached their breaking point. Yes, it has existed and increased over the terms of numerous Presidents of both parties. It does not help one bit that there is a man in the White House that repeatedly told us that things were going to be different. They're not different, but they're not even the same, because the situation has been dramatically escalated. People have reached their breaking point.

You, the media, whomever, can continue to put whatever spin they want on it. It doesn't change the situation. The people are attempting to take back control of their government. It's a right of theirs to do so.

If statements like these, the race card, or whatever, help you sleep at night by all means continue as you have been.

But I've got to be honest here, statements like those above I expect to be heard at any middle school. Most kids grow out of "it's not fair".

In addition, I'll pose a question to you. If the protests in Washington and elsewhere across the nation don't sit well with you, why are you not out offering the other viewpoint? Is there something stopping you from organizing people into an effort to provide a counter-argument? It's allowed under our Constitution.

You're so full of shit, we haven't seen any of you protesting the last couple decades until now. With Reagan you guys even fell in love with his deficit spending.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc

well that was interesting
 
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Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?
 

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Having seen many demonstrations and protests here in DC over the years I actually found the politeness and friendly behavior of the huge crowds on Saturday to be almost shocking in retrospect. You have to live here (or in places like Seattle, etc.) to know how rough the anarchist/communist/liberal protesters can be, ie during the G8/G20 summits.

ohh dude I lived there for 4 years. The capitol police know what the fuck they are doing. Nothing ever got too far out of hand.

Just to offer a recent historical perspective...

Washington D.C. Riot of 1968

Crowds of as many as 20,000 overwhelmed the District's 3,100-member police force, and President Lyndon B. Johnson dispatched some 13,600 federal troops, including 1,750 federalized D.C. National Guard troops to assist them. Marines mounted machine guns on the steps of the Capitol and Army troops from the 3rd Infantry guarded the White House. At one point, on April 5, rioting reached within two blocks of the White House before rioters retreated. The occupation of Washington was the largest of any American city since the Civil War. Mayor Washington imposed a curfew and banned the sale of alcohol and guns in the city. By the time the city was considered pacified on Sunday, April 8, twelve had been killed (mostly in burning homes), 1,097 injured, and over 6,100 arrested. Additionally, some 1,200 buildings had been burned, including over 900 stores. Damages reached $27 million. This can be estimated to be equivalent to over $156 million today.

The riots utterly devastated Washington's inner city economy. With the destruction or closing of businesses, thousands of jobs were lost, and insurance rates soared. Made uneasy by the violence, city residents of all races accelerated their departure for suburban areas, depressing property values. Crime in the burned out neighborhoods rose sharply, further discouraging investment.

On some blocks, only rubble remained for decades. Columbia Heights and the U Street corridor did not begin to recover economically until the opening of the U St/Cardozo and Columbia Heights Metro stations in 1991 and 1999, respectively, while the H Street NE corridor remained depressed for several years longer.

Walter Washington, who reportedly refused FBI director J. Edgar Hoover's suggestion to shoot the rioters, went on to become the city's first elected mayor and its first black mayor.

Washington D.C. May Day Protests 1971

While protesters listened to music, planned their actions or slept, the authorities quickly moved 10,000 Federal troops to various locations in the D.C. area, including 4,000 paratroopers from the U.S. 82nd Airborne Division. At one point, so many soldiers and marines were being moved into the area from bases along the East Coast that troop transports were landing at the rate of one every three minutes at Andrews Air Force Base in suburban Maryland, about 15 miles from the White House. These troops were to back up the 5,100 D.C. Metropolitan Police and 2,000 D.C. National Guard troops that were already on the streets.

A state of siege existed in the Capital. Thousands of troops and thousands of demonstrators planned to confront each other on Monday May 3rd. Problems developed when protesters and soldiers of the same age faced off. The unarmed protesters kept pounding on the fact that they, the protesters, were striving to keep them, the soldiers, from being sent to kill and die in Vietnam. This was, in many cases, such a persuasive argument that officers had to rotate the troops frequently in order to prevent mutiny from those in the front lines face to face with their peers. Nixon?s internal security forces had moved into place early Monday morning. Every bridge coming into the city was lined with troops. Every monument, park and traffic circle had troops protecting its perimeters. Paratroopers and marines made helicopter combat assaults onto the grounds of the Washington Monument. Hundreds of troops were brought into the city by helicopter to support the police. Despite this phenomenal violation of posse comitatus (prohibiting the use of military force for domestic police actions), the most pacific of the protesters, the Quaker resistance group, managed to persuade at least one garbage truck to leap from an embankment onto the Rock Creek Parkway blocking traffic.

While the troops were in place and thousands held in reserve, the police clashed with members of the Mayday Tribe. The Yippies engaged in hit and run tactics throughout the city, trying to disrupt traffic and cause chaos in the streets. The police responded with tear gas and mass arrests. While Nixon rested in San Clemente, California, thousands of Federal workers had to navigate through police lines and Mayday Tribe roadblocks. Nixon had refused to give Federal workers the day off because he wanted it to appear as though the government was still operating normally.

While the troops secured the major intersections and bridges, the police roamed through the city making massive arrest sweeps. They arrested anyone who looked like a demonstrator, including an interesting number of construction workers (anti-protesters) who had come out to support the government and maybe kick some hippy butt, rounding up thousands and transporting them to jails and an emergency detention center located at the Washington Redskins practice field, next to RFK Stadium, east of the United States Capitol. Skirmishes between protesters and police occurred up until about mid-day, but by Monday afternoon, the Mayday Tribe?s actions were mostly over. Against thousands of troops and police, the protesters did not have a chance. On Monday, the police had arrested over 7,000 demonstrators. Over the next few days several thousand more would be arrested during smaller protests, totaling about 12,000 persons making this the largest mass arrest in U.S. history.

Washington D.C. Riot of 1991

As rumors that a Hispanic man was shot and killed while handcuffed spread throughout the neighborhood, crowds of youths, most in their teens and twenties, formed and started to attack the police. Around 400 youths fought running street battles with the police for several hours, late into the night. Police cars were torched and several stores looted. The District?s mayor, Sharon Pratt Dixon told the police to hold back from making arrests for looting because she feared it would only antagonize the crowd and lead to more violence. District law enforcement officials also had problems massing enough riot police to control the riot because of a lack of communication equipment. These problems led to an uncoordinated response when the rioting first began. Because of this poor initial response, several police officers were left to fend for themselves as the mob attacked them and had to wait to be rescued by other officers. The violence continued until early in the morning, when the crowds began to break up because of rain.

Hoping to avoid a second night of rioting, city officials met with Hispanic community leaders the next day. But the meeting did little to stop the violence. By evening, even with 1,000 riot police on the streets, the rioting started again. Police fought with as many as 600 black and Hispanic youths, some with bandanas over their faces. The rioters pushed dumpsters into the streets to block traffic, looted and damaged stores, and attacked police vehicles and city transit buses, setting several on fire. Several instances of gunfire were also reported. The police responded by firing tear gas grenades at the groups of rioting youths and by making arrests. When it was obvious that the disturbance was not going to end, the Mayor declared a State of Emergency and put a curfew into effect. The curfew covered a four square mile area of the city and included not only the Mount Pleasant area but also the surrounding areas of Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights.

By Tuesday night, after two nights of rioting, the curfew resulted in the disorder easing, with only isolated incidents of violence and 33 arrests reported on the third night of rioting. Hundreds of police officers descended onto the neighborhood to enforce the 7pm curfew and curb incidents of violence. Even though there were some reports of rock and bottle throwing, no stores were looted or fires set. Most people in the area stayed in their homes, afraid of being arrested for breaking the curfew. The riot was basically over.

yea the protest 30+ years ago were a whole different ballgame. the protesters were much more violent and the cops had a lot more free reign to crack heads and get away with it which leads to more pissed off protesters and more violence.



 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

like your fucking country does? go back to your tea and crumpets and worry about your individual rights in your own country.

God Save the Queen mate.

 
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

like your fucking country does? go back to your tea and crumpets and worry about your individual rights in your own country.

God Save the Queen mate.
JoS is an angry man...probably best to ignore him.
 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

There does seem to be such a thing as an inflatable Sarah Palin Fuck Doll.

I'd vote for that over the real thing.

I weep for this country.
 
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

like your fucking country does? go back to your tea and crumpets and worry about your individual rights in your own country.

God Save the Queen mate.

Yeah, like my country does, it was MI6 that got the prisoners that were released to GET released you stupid fucking twat, this was under the condition that they were to be supervised for a decade but they got innocent people out.

Take your stupid arse attitude and stick it, Brits were first on the ground in both Afghanistan and Iraq and neither of those wars were our wars.

And believe you me, i am worried, i have not ONCE stated that the UK is better than the US, NOT ONCE!

We have the house of commons for a reason, you know, the system you modeled your government system from but forgot to include? That is why you need retarded people on the streets when Glen Beck or some other extremist group calls for them, because you have no say otherwise.

So just shut the fuck up about things you know nothing, absolutely nothing about.

OTOH, i can't see fucking Russia from my house, so perhaps Palin knows better than me what the fuck is happening in a war zone i've been in?
 
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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

like your fucking country does? go back to your tea and crumpets and worry about your individual rights in your own country.

God Save the Queen mate.
JoS is an angry man...probably best to ignore him.

Not as much angry as dissapointed.

I'm sorry if you see my anger as misdirected, trust me, it's not.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: little elvis
Originally posted by: PJABBER
inadvertently, walking at the edges of the crowd, about half a mile from where the speechifying was going on. It was that big. 1.5 million people. Isn't that something?

Slight exaggeration???

ABC News Link

The DC fire department only estimated 60,000 to 70,000 people.

Needs repeating. Watch the anatomy of a lie unfold, initiated and entirely propagated by the right. But who gets the blame for inflating the numbers by 30X? The "media". I love the nuts.

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909140039

The right always did have problems with numbers. They tried to attribute a monster obama rally turnout to some band that was playing.
 

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Not to mention the fraudulent attempts to inflate the head count by claiming a five plus year old photo circulated as rightwingers as being from the Washington DC tea party.

There was a similar event Labor Day weekend in West Virginia-featuring Ted Nugent, Sean Hannity and Hank Willaims, Jr (his old man is probably rolling over in his grave) where the sponsor-a head of a coal company-openly bragged about spending a million bucks to put on the event. Don't these people see how crassly they are being manipulated?
 

GTaudiophile

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My dad attended the "stand in the gap" Promise Keepers event in DC back in the 1990s.

Photo of the event.

This crowd was estimated to be between 1-2 million.

My dad also attended last Saturday's event, and he estimated the crowd to be closer to 100K-200K max.


 

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Palin as a hero? This is what you are saying GTAudiphile? My daughter had more clever responses when she was 4 than this idiotic twat had when she was PREPARED.

She wouldn't pass third grade American History in the U fucking K.

She's a pathetic little twat that doesn't believe in individual freedoms and individual rights but are more than happy to sell it out as long as she gets to take care of the profit.

For FUCKS SAKE, Palin? She's the daftest bitch on earth, hell, just put a fucking blow up doll in there, that will turn out better than to let a whacked out fundamentalist christian nutjob who has opinions that are shared by maybe... the OLD testament but hardly the new one, of course, todays Christians of the US mostly focus on the old testament, that whole sheit that Jesus bloke spoke about forgiveness... empathy, taking care of those who have it worst first... fuck him. Right?

It wouldn't be so bad if idiots just acknowledge that you don't follow any of the words of christs, you are neo-jews without the forgiveness in modern day Judaism.

Fucking pathetic bunch of losers is what i see in every picture and every video, don't you have something better to do, like making sure your wife obeys you or stoning her?

like your fucking country does? go back to your tea and crumpets and worry about your individual rights in your own country.

God Save the Queen mate.

Yeah, like my country does, it was MI6 that got the prisoners that were released to GET released you stupid fucking twat, this was under the condition that they were to be supervised for a decade but they got innocent people out.

Take your stupid arse attitude and stick it, Brits were first on the ground in both Afghanistan and Iraq and neither of those wars were our wars.

And believe you me, i am worried, i have not ONCE stated that the UK is better than the US, NOT ONCE!

We have the house of commons for a reason, you know, the system you modeled your government system from but forgot to include? That is why you need retarded people on the streets when Glen Beck or some other extremist group calls for them, because you have no say otherwise.

So just shut the fuck up about things you know nothing, absolutely nothing about.

OTOH, i can't see fucking Russia from my house, so perhaps Palin knows better than me what the fuck is happening in a war zone i've been in?
You forget who you're dealing with. Some will turn on you in a flash - even if you're partially agreeing with them. When they start sounding reasonable, it's time to be on guard.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Contemplate Why. That's what the Left did, after 2002. Look at us now. Look at YOU now.

The left didn't contemplate anything. The left is riding Bush's coattails right now. Many Americans would have voted for a turnip before they voted for a Republican. But the public memory is short, and if the Democrats don't deliver, we'll have Republicans back in office before you know it. And I don't think any of want that.

Oh, and the rest of your post? You're why I won't vote for Democrats. I hate you. Seriously. Democrats, as evidenced by this forum, are awful people. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I'll continue to happily throw my vote away on third parties. I just don't want assholes like you to get my vote.
 

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Originally posted by: PJABBER

I asked most of the people I spoke with if they were D, R or I and it was about evenly split, as was the geographic spread they came from.

Absolute bullshit and you know it. :roll:

Originally posted by: PJABBER
That is why the press and the Obama campaign had to neutralize Palin by any means possible and still fears her resurgence.

The left fears Palin? LOL... *PLEASE* let her lead your party on her 'crusade'. :laugh:
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My dad attended the "stand in the gap" Promise Keepers event in DC back in the 1990s.

Photo of the event.

This crowd was estimated to be between 1-2 million.

My dad also attended last Saturday's event, and he estimated the crowd to be closer to 100K-200K max.

Conservatism has always been, and will always be, the smelly ass-end of history that everyone ultimately wishes to forget, and will deny having any part of, if they wish to maintain a shred of credibility. Like the teargassing and fire-hosing of Blacks in the Southern United States not much more than 40 years ago. From the dawn of history itself, to present day, it has not differed one whit. The Ratchet of Progress shall click forward, notch by notch, despite your protests. And the clicks are irreversible. And relentless.

Conservatism knows this. Despite its intent to maintain stasis, it cannot. It must morph. It must take the shape of the most quaint, most provincial, most believable forms of complete bullshit that it can get away with in order to survive, given the current set of circumstsances. It is, fundamentally, a Lie, despite its predictable grasps at Flag and God.

Progress, and progressivism, has always thwarted Conservatism, and it always will. Progressivism is the Ratchet itself. Progress can only move forwards. The ratchet can only "click" in that direction. It can only embrace the new discoveries, and leave old ideas behind like the garbage that they are.

Progressivism brought us Heliocentrism.

It brought us Democracy.

It brought us workers' rights.

It brought us Womens' Rights (tragically, we're still working on completion of that).

Hopefully, in the future, Homosexuals/Transexuals will have equal rights as well. This is the new Sexual front, and it's bloody.

In the end, Progressivism has had to fight, tooth and nail, Blood and Tears, to bring to Humanity practically ALL of the things that it takes for granted now, and enjoys quite greatly.

Scientific Theorems.

Human and Labor rights.

Boy, the opposition to this stuff is still FIERCE! Isnt it now? Don't let that Ratchet click! It only goes one way... Forwards! Gotta stop them FAGS! Gotta stop them STEM CELLS! All that GLOBAL WARMING mumbo-Jumbo!

Hell! Our very way of life is... in DANGER!!! OMFGTEAPARTY!!!

...

(Hey, maybe your shit is just, like... Obsolete?)

Conservatism = Fear, but also Arrogance. But mostly Fear.

Fear of Change.

Mostly, Fear of Change that Directly Disfavors The Conservative.

Gee, whiz. Whouldathunkit? :confused:
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My dad attended the "stand in the gap" Promise Keepers event in DC back in the 1990s.

Photo of the event.

This crowd was estimated to be between 1-2 million.

My dad also attended last Saturday's event, and he estimated the crowd to be closer to 100K-200K max.

Conservatism has always been, and will always be, the smelly ass-end of history that everyone ultimately wishes to forget, and will deny having any part of, if they wish to maintain a shred of credibility. Like the teargassing and fire-hosing of Blacks in the Southern United States not much more than 40 years ago. From the dawn of history itself, to present day, it has not differed one whit. The Ratchet of Progress shall click forward, notch by notch, despite your protests. And the clicks are irreversible. And relentless.

Conservatism knows this. Despite its intent to maintain stasis, it cannot. It must morph. It must take the shape of the most quaint, most provincial, most believable forms of complete bullshit that it can get away with in order to survive, given the current set of circumstsances. It is, fundamentally, a Lie, despite its predictable grasps at Flag and God.

Progress, and progressivism, has always thwarted Conservatism, and it always will. Progressivism is the Ratchet itself. Progress can only move forwards. The ratchet can only "click" in that direction. It can only embrace the new discoveries, and leave old ideas behind like the garbage that they are.

Progressivism brought us Heliocentrism.

It brought us Democracy.

It brought us workers' rights.

It brought us Womens' Rights (tragically, we're still working on completion of that).

Hopefully, in the future, Homosexuals/Transexuals will have equal rights as well. This is the new Sexual front, and it's bloody.

In the end, Progressivism has had to fight, tooth and nail, Blood and Tears, to bring to Humanity practically ALL of the things that it takes for granted now, and enjoys quite greatly.

Scientific Theorems.

Human and Labor rights.

Boy, the opposition to this stuff is still FIERCE! Isnt it now? Don't let that Ratchet click! It only goes one way... Forwards! Gotta stop them FAGS! Gotta stop them STEM CELLS! All that GLOBAL WARMING mumbo-Jumbo!

Hell! Our very way of life is... in DANGER!!! OMFGTEAPARTY!!!

...

(Hey, maybe your shit is just, like... Obsolete?)

Conservatism = Fear, but also Arrogance. But mostly Fear.

Fear of Change.

Mostly, Fear of Change that Directly Disfavors The Conservative.

Gee, whiz. Whouldathunkit? :confused:

Really? This is the best that you can come up with. Because humans changed the way we believed the earth is the center of the universe, humans should accept the current political system in power?
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Painman
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My dad attended the "stand in the gap" Promise Keepers event in DC back in the 1990s.

Photo of the event.

This crowd was estimated to be between 1-2 million.

My dad also attended last Saturday's event, and he estimated the crowd to be closer to 100K-200K max.

Conservatism has always been, and will always be, the smelly ass-end of history that everyone ultimately wishes to forget, and will deny having any part of, if they wish to maintain a shred of credibility. Like the teargassing and fire-hosing of Blacks in the Southern United States not much more than 40 years ago. From the dawn of history itself, to present day, it has not differed one whit. The Ratchet of Progress shall click forward, notch by notch, despite your protests. And the clicks are irreversible. And relentless.

Conservatism knows this. Despite its intent to maintain stasis, it cannot. It must morph. It must take the shape of the most quaint, most provincial, most believable forms of complete bullshit that it can get away with in order to survive, given the current set of circumstsances. It is, fundamentally, a Lie, despite its predictable grasps at Flag and God.

Progress, and progressivism, has always thwarted Conservatism, and it always will. Progressivism is the Ratchet itself. Progress can only move forwards. The ratchet can only "click" in that direction. It can only embrace the new discoveries, and leave old ideas behind like the garbage that they are.

Progressivism brought us Heliocentrism.

It brought us Democracy.

It brought us workers' rights.

It brought us Womens' Rights (tragically, we're still working on completion of that).

Hopefully, in the future, Homosexuals/Transexuals will have equal rights as well. This is the new Sexual front, and it's bloody.

In the end, Progressivism has had to fight, tooth and nail, Blood and Tears, to bring to Humanity practically ALL of the things that it takes for granted now, and enjoys quite greatly.

Scientific Theorems.

Human and Labor rights.

Boy, the opposition to this stuff is still FIERCE! Isnt it now? Don't let that Ratchet click! It only goes one way... Forwards! Gotta stop them FAGS! Gotta stop them STEM CELLS! All that GLOBAL WARMING mumbo-Jumbo!

Hell! Our very way of life is... in DANGER!!! OMFGTEAPARTY!!!

...

(Hey, maybe your shit is just, like... Obsolete?)

Conservatism = Fear, but also Arrogance. But mostly Fear.

Fear of Change.

Mostly, Fear of Change that Directly Disfavors The Conservative.

Gee, whiz. Whouldathunkit? :confused:

I'm pretty sure Progressives also brought us water, fire, and air as well. DAMN THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO WERE ANTI AIR!!
 

BoberFett

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Conserving anything is bad? There's nothing good in the past that should be preserved?

Once the world is the way you want it, someone else is going to want to change it at which point you will be the conservative.

But Painman's tiny little mind can't comprehend that.
 
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Painman
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
My dad attended the "stand in the gap" Promise Keepers event in DC back in the 1990s.

Photo of the event.

This crowd was estimated to be between 1-2 million.

My dad also attended last Saturday's event, and he estimated the crowd to be closer to 100K-200K max.

Conservatism has always been, and will always be, the smelly ass-end of history that everyone ultimately wishes to forget, and will deny having any part of, if they wish to maintain a shred of credibility. Like the teargassing and fire-hosing of Blacks in the Southern United States not much more than 40 years ago. From the dawn of history itself, to present day, it has not differed one whit. The Ratchet of Progress shall click forward, notch by notch, despite your protests. And the clicks are irreversible. And relentless.

Conservatism knows this. Despite its intent to maintain stasis, it cannot. It must morph. It must take the shape of the most quaint, most provincial, most believable forms of complete bullshit that it can get away with in order to survive, given the current set of circumstsances. It is, fundamentally, a Lie, despite its predictable grasps at Flag and God.

Progress, and progressivism, has always thwarted Conservatism, and it always will. Progressivism is the Ratchet itself. Progress can only move forwards. The ratchet can only "click" in that direction. It can only embrace the new discoveries, and leave old ideas behind like the garbage that they are.

Progressivism brought us Heliocentrism.

It brought us Democracy.

It brought us workers' rights.

It brought us Womens' Rights (tragically, we're still working on completion of that).

Hopefully, in the future, Homosexuals/Transexuals will have equal rights as well. This is the new Sexual front, and it's bloody.

In the end, Progressivism has had to fight, tooth and nail, Blood and Tears, to bring to Humanity practically ALL of the things that it takes for granted now, and enjoys quite greatly.

Scientific Theorems.

Human and Labor rights.

Boy, the opposition to this stuff is still FIERCE! Isnt it now? Don't let that Ratchet click! It only goes one way... Forwards! Gotta stop them FAGS! Gotta stop them STEM CELLS! All that GLOBAL WARMING mumbo-Jumbo!

Hell! Our very way of life is... in DANGER!!! OMFGTEAPARTY!!!

...

(Hey, maybe your shit is just, like... Obsolete?)

Conservatism = Fear, but also Arrogance. But mostly Fear.

Fear of Change.

Mostly, Fear of Change that Directly Disfavors The Conservative.

Gee, whiz. Whouldathunkit? :confused:

I'm pretty sure Progressives also brought us water, fire, and air as well. DAMN THOSE CONSERVATIVES WHO WERE ANTI AIR!!
Let's all take a few minutes from our busy days for a moment of silence and meditation...to pay homage and give thanks to people like Painman and all progressives...because without them, we would all remain in fear, arrogance, ignorance, and all manner of obsolete shit. :roll: Funny thing is...I don't know whether to laugh or cry.