"I was a conservative coward" (Direct Title From The Link)

Newell Steamer

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When I was a conservative, I fretted about people and issues from faraway places that had zero actual impact on my daily life. The terror was both illogical and very real.

,.. sounds like something was, defective, in this person's mind,...

But, onto more important matters;
We’ve just witnessed the result of an election fueled by negativity and disinformation, and people are afraid. They fear ISIS, Ebola and the boogeymen that inhabit the prehistoric recesses of the reptilian brain. These fears are overblown, to say the least, but we are being intentionally manipulated by conservative voices that thrive on fear to win elections or ratings. To their enduring shame, they have no concern for the damage they do to institutions and people when playing to the worst instincts of humanity.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/10/i_w..._evoked_my_past_of_shame_terror_and_fox_news/

So, a few questions spring to mind,...

#1 - Can the conservative brain defect be 'cured'? This person claims to have had it. And, claims to be over it. I didn't read anything about an actual pill. What is this man talking about, on how he had it,.. how did it go away??

#2 - He mentions shame (above quote) & regret (right below);
That we want to live and thrive is natural, but when we let our instincts damage reason, our nation and indeed our basic humanity suffers. I regret letting cruelty, fear and tribalism drive my choices.
So, does that mean that conservatives do indeed see and recognize their own double standards, which derive from their fear of everything? Not only are they wrought with fear, but, they are witnessing and conscious of their contradictory actions, which defy logic. That's pretty awful. It is like they literally can not control themselves.

#3 - Let's be honest,... was this guy REALLY a conservative? I don't think so. I think he was liberal, who got caught up in the waves of fear - especially when you read about what he agonized over and how.

More importantly,..
#4 - Does the conservative mind really need to be 'cured'? I say no. I believe that society is quite the organic being. Eventually, in a few hundred years, after we've grown tired of listening to people scream, yell, warn, alarm and kvetch over false fears - we'll just nod and smile as we go on our lives, without living with the byproducts of logic strangling fear ourselves, or bending to the demands of a conservative mind - like how this author claims to have lived.

Also, this fear is part of their being,..
Just a couple of weeks ago, I sat in a professional seminar about the “emotions we bring to work” every day. The speaker, Chris Olex, started with a discussion of the four “basic” emotions: happy, sad, angry and afraid, but fear was the runaway star of the show. Olex spent almost the entire session trying to get the attendees to understand how fear drives our most primitive and unreasonable reactions. She spent a great deal of time explaining the “amygdala,” the part of the brain responsible for our basic survival.

Often called “reptilian,” the amygdala houses our fear and anger, also known as the basic two planks of the Republican Party platform. It creates in some people an animalistic fear of the ill-defined “other” who is out to take your job, collect unearned government benefits or have kinky sex with your daughter. It’s a classic amygdala play.

,.. it is not going to go away by popping a pill,.. or 'reasoning' with the conservatives. But, I believe, conservatives will eventually go away.
 

cubby1223

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Stereotypical liberal who believes everything Republican is defined by Fox News.

NEWS FLASH! Not everyone who voted Republican did so because of Fox News induced fear. In fact, very few do. Fox News viewership on any given night is about 2 million, or less than 1% percent of the U.S. population.

People in my state voted Republican more than in previous elections where the swing was based primarily on the poor performance of the Democratic-controlled state government (super-majority plus governor), as well as the tiredness of the Dems campaigning on convincing people yet again about fictional wars against women, elderly, children, etc. when the state is in such bad economic shape.

If you're going to examine the fear tactics of the GOP, also include the fear tactics of the Democrats. Maybe that guy in the article is just addicted to fear, and he now fears what the Democrats are selling the public about how horrible the GOP will treat citizens when in power.


And, I don't for a minute believe people on the whole actually fear these items as much as the politicians and other leaders, media, whatever, want to make you believe people do. Politics and media is more and more about the entertainment factor than the truth and proper perspective.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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So much butthurt!!!!

Here ya go, this will ease your pain.

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Newell Steamer

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Zaap

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Great, another moonbeam sockpuppet show.

We sure do like our clown entertainment around here. :D
 

BoberFett

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I see more fear and anger by Democrats on this forum on any given day, but don't let that get in the way of a good old fashioned Democrat circle jerk. Just mop up the jizz when you're done.
 

Moonbeam

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Newell Steamer: ,.. it is not going to go away by popping a pill,.. or 'reasoning' with the conservatives. But, I believe, conservatives will eventually go away.

M: I don't have much hope for a pill but ultimately much is chemical. But if I thought there were no cure I don't would be able to find no reason to mention the CBD. Also, I don't think conservatives are going away. The science tells us that liberals understand conservatives less well than conservatives understand liberals, one of the reasons they keep winning elections, and I think that particular LBD is showing up here. If the CBD is genetic, then I believe we all have it. It is known, for example that things like booze and stress make everybody less liberal. I believe, therefore, that the CBD is an adaptive advantage in rather common and traditional world situations.

Thinking is slow compared to reflex, which is why we don't have to do an analysis on whether we should remove our hands from a fire. Low level reactive thinking can keep you alive or kill you, depending on the situation.

When I play Diablo with LunarRay, he reminds me when I go for DPS, that to effectively use your killing power you first have to be alive. Ballence isn't everything. Liberals and conservatives, when they face external threat, are a tough combo to beat. Nobody cuts off one hand because they mostly use the other unless there is demonization going on.
 

Newell Steamer

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Also, I don't think conservatives are going away.

Just to clarify, it won't be any time soon - if not hundreds, then certainly thousands of years.

Because, over the passing of these years, technology will improve, greatly, so the people who cry wolf will be shown right there, in real time, that ebola carrying Mexican cartel ISIS lizard people are not transporting dirty nuclear bombs through the sewers of NY.

Ted Cruz said something stupid? Well, he was called out on it ASAP.

Ebola is pouring in from the Southern border? Nope. No confirmed cases, or reasonable concern, that may have happened.

The time, and potency, of the lies will be very short and weakened considerable, as the truth is revealed almost immediately. And, that will get people to realize;
1) there is no legitimate fear
2) ,.. hey, these people are liars,...

So, they'll be pushed aside - in the sense that they won't be listened to and given too much credit.
 

Jaskalas

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there were cries of shutting down borders; to prevent ISIS from coming into the US

I believe we call that border security, not "shutting down borders". Terrorists can cross the open border at will. You are conflating that with the Ebola scare.

And there's nothing particularly wrong with being afraid of a disease with a greater than 60% mortality rate. Or wanting to distance and isolate ourselves from it. You'll notice the cries for a dramatic response to Ebola will lessen as Americans learn from experience that it's not as easy to spread as the flu. Dallas is a great lesson to learn from.

We can totally f' it up and still come out clean.
 

Atreus21

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,.. sounds like something was, defective, in this person's mind,...

But, onto more important matters;


http://www.salon.com/2014/11/10/i_w..._evoked_my_past_of_shame_terror_and_fox_news/

So, a few questions spring to mind,...

#1 - Can the conservative brain defect be 'cured'? This person claims to have had it. And, claims to be over it. I didn't read anything about an actual pill. What is this man talking about, on how he had it,.. how did it go away??

#2 - He mentions shame (above quote) & regret (right below);

So, does that mean that conservatives do indeed see and recognize their own double standards, which derive from their fear of everything? Not only are they wrought with fear, but, they are witnessing and conscious of their contradictory actions, which defy logic. That's pretty awful. It is like they literally can not control themselves.

#3 - Let's be honest,... was this guy REALLY a conservative? I don't think so. I think he was liberal, who got caught up in the waves of fear - especially when you read about what he agonized over and how.

More importantly,..
#4 - Does the conservative mind really need to be 'cured'? I say no. I believe that society is quite the organic being. Eventually, in a few hundred years, after we've grown tired of listening to people scream, yell, warn, alarm and kvetch over false fears - we'll just nod and smile as we go on our lives, without living with the byproducts of logic strangling fear ourselves, or bending to the demands of a conservative mind - like how this author claims to have lived.

Also, this fear is part of their being,..


,.. it is not going to go away by popping a pill,.. or 'reasoning' with the conservatives. But, I believe, conservatives will eventually go away.

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Dude you are just dumb as hell.
 

frowertr

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If you don't think ISIS is a legitimate threat to the U.S. than you are living under a god damn rock...

You liberals got your feelings hurt so bad at these mid-term elections. They just can't believe the that the American people turned out to be against the democrats by voting their sorry asses out of the House.

Love it! Let the liberal tears continue to stream!
 

werepossum

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I don't think anyone is opposed to that,.. but, there were cries of shutting down borders; to prevent ISIS from coming into the US as well as Ebola - none of these were a legitimate threat to the US.
lol It's good to fight these things, just don't pretend they are a legitimate danger. We're fighting them because, um . . . France!

If we can cure CBD, we can concentrate on the real threats - the health care crisis, the affordable housing crisis, the education crisis, the day care crisis, the buying one's own birth control crisis . . .

And then we can watch the next Occupy rally - just so we'll know what life without fear and anger looks like. Nothing but sweet logic and defecating on police cars.

You guys are not only highly entertaining, you're also excellent examples of what happens when one has zero self-awareness.
 

Fern

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No,.... people were screaming to shut down the borders; http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-health-officials-in-opposition-to-ebola-travel-ban/

The link details what government officials were clamoring for exactly - it was quite irrational.

No. I never heard anyone clamoring for a border shutdown.

That was always a strawman by the fear mongers on the left.

What others wanted was limiting visa's etc for those from affected WA countries limited to necessary travel.

There's a HUGE difference between targeted travel restrictions and a "border shutdown".

Fern
 

Newell Steamer

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coming from you should he take that as a compliment????

Coming form him, it's expected (quote from another thread, related to the conservative brain defect,... not my words, but the words of the linked author);
Basically, whenever someone says they’re wrong, conservatives too often fall back on claims that those who disagree with them are biased and thus worthy of being ignored, a convenient position that allows them to avoid debating uncomfortable criticisms.

Add to the word biased: dumb, stupid, idiotic, etc. Any and all criticism towards conservatives is just shooed away.

On this thread, the person claiming to have been a conservative (the 'writer' for Salon) is indeed a buffoon - since he is claiming to be something, just for the sake of poking fun at conservatives - regardless, it does pose an interesting questions about the conservative brain defect: can it be 'cured', should it be 'cured', etc.

I admit, I didn't out right bash the 'writer' (but made him out to be a 'victim' of being swept up by the fear mongering - my fault), but, i was pretty clear on the questions I asked,..

Oh well,... what else would I expect from the side of the political spectrum in this country that is so wrought with fear they can't control the words coming out of their mouth,... it's a shame.
 
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xBiffx

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I see more fear and anger by Democrats on this forum on any given day, but don't let that get in the way of a good old fashioned Democrat circle jerk. Just mop up the jizz when you're done.

Pretty much this.

Oh and posting in a Cleveland thread.