I want to setup a server on the internet..... what do I need to know

Cybordolphin

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I am going to make one of my computers a server for the internet. I want to host photo's, MP3's and such. I only want a specific folder to be accessible via the internet so that I can point other websites, auctions, etc., to this specific folder.

What is the best way to do this?

It seems like it would be pretty simple.. but want some tips.

Want to be sure to firewall everything but still allow webpages to point to the items I host from this folder located on my server.

Thanks for any input.

 

Cybordolphin

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Lol.... damn I am spending a lot of time with VQserver.... an gettin nowhere...lol.

Sucks having to learn all from scratch..

Anyone with some quick instructions it would be appreciated....
 

Chaotic42

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You mean something like this?:


Internet
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Firewall --------- server
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Network

What OS are you using?


 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
You mean something like this?:


Internet
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Firewall --------- server
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Network

What OS are you using?

According to his crosspost in the networking forum he is using WinXP.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
According to his crosspost in the networking forum he is using WinXP.

Hmm, well I don't know anything about XP. I'll have to take a while to look around it when it arrives on Monday (after my 5 day 2day express shipping).

Does it come with IIS? Seems like you could just have it running only FTP service and configure it to just have the one directory available.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
According to his crosspost in the networking forum he is using WinXP.

Hmm, well I don't know anything about XP. I'll have to take a while to look around it when it arrives on Monday (after my 5 day 2day express shipping).

Does it come with IIS? Seems like you could just have it running only FTP service and configure it to just have the one directory available.

IIS should work on XP, but since its not a server version of the OS it will be limited to 10 connections. Using Apache could get around that limit easily and provide a stable program for this purpose.
 

herbage11

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I just finished an IIS 4.0 class in college (Web Administration) I am not sure about XP but we put up set multiple sites on the same server using IIS 4.0 that comes with Windows NT. Let me know what IIS you have or are getting and if interested I will sell you my book from the class for dirt cheap :). PM me if interested or for detailed information.
herb
 

Hector13

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IIS should work on XP, but since its not a server version of the OS it will be limited to 10 connections. Using Apache could get around that limit easily and provide a stable program for this purpose.

Aer you sure about that limit? Its been a long time since i fooled around with a windows server, but I think that limit is only for file/print sharing and stuff, not for IIS.

In any case, what you want is pretty simple with IIS, I am just not sure how secure it is. When you say firewall, do you mean on a different computer or do you just have one comp? If its more than one, I would do as someone else suggested and get linux for your firewall/webserver and then you can have your XP (and other machines) behind this firewall. This way, you also only need to keep one computer on all the time.
 

Cybordolphin

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Thanks all....

I have


Internet
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router
firewall-------Firewall--Client
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Firewall
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Server

Not sure if this is ideal or not..... but thar she be.

I am running XP on all.

I was thinking of just setting up an FTP site.... and then pointing my auctions to the photo's and Mp3's there.

I have IIS (came with my corp/WinXP).

I also have a copy of VQserver.

Still have not been able to find a way to view the URL when I copy a file to my FTP default file.... using IIS.

It is an extremely simple need that I have.. (for now), as I won't be using my webserver for anything but a hosting place for my photo's and wave/midi/mp3s.

Thanks

(server/client are not always networked but when they are it is through the router).



 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Hector13
IIS should work on XP, but since its not a server version of the OS it will be limited to 10 connections. Using Apache could get around that limit easily and provide a stable program for this purpose.

Aer you sure about that limit? Its been a long time since i fooled around with a windows server, but I think that limit is only for file/print sharing and stuff, not for IIS.

In any case, what you want is pretty simple with IIS, I am just not sure how secure it is. When you say firewall, do you mean on a different computer or do you just have one comp? If its more than one, I would do as someone else suggested and get linux for your firewall/webserver and then you can have your XP (and other machines) behind this firewall. This way, you also only need to keep one computer on all the time.

Yes, I am sure about the limit. And IIS' security is non-existant unless you take the time to set it up yourself.
 

n0cmonkey

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Just setup apache. It isnt limited to 10 users, its security is much better than iis, especially when you dont know what you are doing, and its quite simple to setup.

EDIT: You should also talk to the guys at your company that provided you with the corporate edition. Its expensive, and you dont want to cause any problems for the company that paid for it. Check with them to make sure this is ok. They should also be able to help you set something up.
 

Thor86

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Contact your internet service provider, most should supply you with at least some web space for you to upload images of your auction items. Saves you the hassle of setting one up yourself if you are not into learning how to do it yourself.
 

alm99

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Is there any tutorial or anything on how to do this, I would like to know also.
 

NukemAll

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Just setup apache. It isnt limited to 10 users, its security is much better than iis, especially when you dont know what you are doing, and its quite simple to setup.

EDIT: You should also talk to the guys at your company that provided you with the corporate edition. Its expensive, and you dont want to cause any problems for the company that paid for it. Check with them to make sure this is ok. They should also be able to help you set something up.

Are you sure about Apache not being limited to 10 connections? It is the OS that is limited to 10 connections. Does Apache have a way of getting around the restrictions of the operating system it is installed on?.
 

NaughtyusMaximus

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I'm fairly sure that 10 connections to IIS is what is limited. With IIS unloaded, Apache should have no problem having any number of connections.
 

Bleep

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I can absolutly state without any doubt that Apache is not limited to 10 or any other amount of connections unless you configure it to limit the connections. I run Apache on a windows box and it is very easy to configure it only requires the editing of 3 lines of text and making one file folder. it is very secure. Download Apache Triad (a search will find it) it installs apache server php and MYsql database +PHP my administration.
If you go this route PM me and I will give you a really easy way to set it up as a server. I dont know about FTP though.

Bleep
 

Colt45

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either use apache + windowsNT4/2k/xp with NTFS

or

linux or bsd and webserver of your choice (apache is good here too, its original environment)

IIS limits you to 10 connections as previously stated, and while it is easy to set up, it takes more effort to secure.

apache for win32 is easy as sh!t if your only hosting jpg's & mp3's. (just one config file to get it going)
 

anime

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dont think you can set a server from the config you have. He got his network behind a router which I assume using NAT.
You gotta have separate IP for the server if you want it to be internet (gotta pay additional money to your ISP for it)
Or you can setup your network differently. Internet-go to your server which also act as a router/firewall-your LAN.
Either way your server need an IP that is recognized on the internet.
 

jandaman

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Easiest thing to do is download Apache for Windows. You'll see the default html folder where you can stick your files and whatnot.
It requires only 1 setting in the config file (I think) that needs to know the address of your webserver ( ie, ip address/url)

If you're using a firewall or whatnot, just have it forward port 80 to your server

Since I had a static ip, I got an account from www.dhs.org to make my url mysite.dhs.org
I can just stick files in the html folder ( that apache automatically sets up) and access it via http://mysite.dhs.org/file.ext

Now, if you have a dynamic ip, things are a bit more complicated. I'm sure a redirect service exists for dynamic ips but I've never used them ( I think dhs.org also offers dynamic but I'm too lazy to check)
 

ripthesystem

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I second everything Colt45 said.. I've done both and they both work with ZERO problems..
IIS isn't going to be worth the trouble for you.

ripthesystem