JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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yhelothar
Lifer
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Nah patriots are really whom you think are radicals..
"The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair." - H.L. Mencken
They didn't do what they did for America, they did what they did for the people under the buildings. There's a difference. Don't make "patriot" yet another meaningless buzzword; the English language simply can't take the abuse that 9/11 and the following events have forced upon it.
It irks me when people make incorrect assumptions about me with no evidence whatsoever to back it up. Don't do it again.
mugs
Lifer
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I never said it made sense. Bush was all about patriots after September 11th. Case in point: the Patriot Act, which would have been more appropriately named Removal of the Freedoms Real Patriots Fought For Act. He probably had Karl Rove rig the Super Bowl to let the Patriots win too!
Now now, everyone knows it actually stands for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism. It's pure coincidence that it happens to spell out "USA PATRIOT" Act. Completely unplanned
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How about the fact the this corresponds to when the colonies chose to stand up for what they felt was right.
The country may not have been here if that group of rebels had not drawn the line.
yup.. I agree more people die in yearly terroist attacks yearly around the world..
the US is so borked in its priorities..
HomeBrewerDude
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Patriot Day? There are so many things wrong with 9/11 being called that. It does nothing but remind me of the blatant exploitation of "patriotism" by the administration since 9/11.
"Patriot Day" is obviously another attempt to get sheeple to rally around the leader a little bit every year, as if 9/11 is a fat cow you can keep milking.
From Wikipedia:
Despite the law's passage and President Bush's proclamation, the effort to make Sept. 11 a national holiday has been rejected by many who view the effort as an act of jingoism[citation needed] and "handing the emotional victory over to the terrorists." Specifically, many object to the naming of the day as 'Patriot Day,'[citation needed] as the day is intended as a memorial to the victims of a terrorist attack and arguably has nothing to do with patriotism or patriots.
"Patriot Day" is obviously another attempt to get sheeple to rally around the leader a little bit every year, as if 9/11 is a fat cow you can keep milking.
From Wikipedia:
Despite the law's passage and President Bush's proclamation, the effort to make Sept. 11 a national holiday has been rejected by many who view the effort as an act of jingoism[citation needed] and "handing the emotional victory over to the terrorists." Specifically, many object to the naming of the day as 'Patriot Day,'[citation needed] as the day is intended as a memorial to the victims of a terrorist attack and arguably has nothing to do with patriotism or patriots.
Sure firemen are generally heroes, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with patriotism, despite the political photo shoots, press conferences, and memorials. Last I checked, FDNY serves the city of New York, a fact easily lost on a suburbanized public that has no love for its cities save for their favorite sports teams.
mugs
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Originally posted by: jagec
Now now, everyone knows it actually stands for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism. It's pure coincidence that it happens to spell out "USA PATRIOT" Act. Completely unplanned
Wow, I wonder how long and how many interns it took to come up with that backronym.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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I think you'd be hard pressed to find any firemen who don't love their country and who don't take pride in helping their community. I think they can be considered patriots. I have no problem with it anyway.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue semantics with you on this. I think it's a stupid "holiday" and I do not support merging it or it taking the place of Labor Day.
Abslutely not.
To celebrate the barbaric act that took place on that day pegs my stupidity meter at the max. This is another simple-minded attempt to commercialize that day. If you want to remember the people that died on 9/11 in a somber manner, fine, but do it on your own time...there's no need for another "Hallmark Holiday".
To celebrate the barbaric act that took place on that day pegs my stupidity meter at the max. This is another simple-minded attempt to commercialize that day. If you want to remember the people that died on 9/11 in a somber manner, fine, but do it on your own time...there's no need for another "Hallmark Holiday".
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