I want to know if this water cooling project will work.

[tylerdustin2008]

I would like to know if this would work, i have went to a junk yard and bought two oil coolers that work, and i am going to mount 12 80mm fans on the big one and 3 80mm fans on the small one. I am going to need to buy a full tower case to mount this in, and here are the pics and the case i am goin to get.

Pics:
http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100452jc.jpg
http://img173.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100478uu.jpg

New Pics.
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100520ox.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100530hj.jpg


My system, they are older pics, i have a new psu, and some cable management

http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100413bj.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100441dm.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100429bg.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10100438za.jpg


Thanks Alot

 

[DerwenArtos12]

what part of your motherboard are you measuring? If this is your PWM area then that is warm, not alarmingly but, I would get some better air movement through your case, if that is chipset, it is warm, a little more worriesome than if that is PWM but not horrific, do you have pics of the system.

 

[HardWarrior]

You have to take ambient into account. If your computer room is warm then your temps aren't bad, otherwise you've got a problem.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

RE TO DERWEN..........- i am measuring from what the ai-booster program that comes with the board. And i am not overclocking it, the mobo runs at about 48C on idle and at 56C while i am playing F.E.A.R. I dont know how hot it will get when i put another graphics card in it and a 320gb hdd. Should i run liquid cooling. And what does PWm mean?

 

[snowdogg187]

post pics of the case and setup

 

[bdww00]

um how do u get those wires to go crazy? hmmm

id try and clean up the wires search forums for wire management for help

 

[tylerdustin2008]

well the power supply that is in it is temp. i am waiting on a antec true power 2.0 550

 

[tylerdustin2008]

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[bdww00]

hmm pwm i think refers to the mosfets (look up meaning) but i think they make the v more stable to important stuff like cpu ram and such

and pwms can get hot if thats what they are talking about you can get little heatsinks for them though!

 

[tylerdustin2008]

thanks for that bit of info, and who knows a really good water cooling system that i could get? maybe that will help

 

[bdww00]

um w/c wont help the mosfets (found out PoWer Mosfets) dont exactly know what they do but this wikipage might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosfet

but u can buy little ram heatsinks or other things these mosfets are located usually between back fan and processor
u can go this route w/ w/c but is not needed
http://www.sixdesign.de/Mosfet-Abit1.jpg hehhe thats funny
this is what they look like in a computer environment
http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2004/09/02/mosfet-2.jpg

just regular old ramsinks will work maybe a pack of two for all but the ones by the cpu proly need the most and hey u can always put extras on vga memory or on ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835116012

 

[dunkster]

Just looking at photos of that case, my guess is that poor case ventilation is the problem.

Adding more efficient device coolers is not the answer, if warm internal case air is not efficiently swept from the case.

The case fan grills are very restrictive. Only a single 80mm rear case vent fan. Vents all over the case, side and rear. Powered side vents worsen the ventilation problem, producing a side-to-vent air path, reducing front intake air flow so drives run hotter and adding a case noise-leak path.

Suggestions:
- Remove the case fan grills (side-cutting plier, snips or dremel).
- Install a high-flow rear vent fan.
- Seal off all vents except front intake and rear exhaust fan ports.
- Remove or relieve front intake restrictions (case front bezel, etc.).

Hope this helps!

 

[tylerdustin2008]

bump, thanks for the help so far

 

[JeffMD]

uhmm... if that nice big fan in the back is blowing out, then clearly your sensor is being read wrong (or is in a very bad place on the board). the fact that your cpu is able to pull enough cool air from its surroundings to get 42c means the air around the motherboard is ATLEAST 42c (You can blow 55c temp air accross the cpu all you want, it wouldnt drop below 55c). And with both an intake and an exhaust fan, unless your room is sweltering, your case should be getting adiquet air exchange. Many may comment on its efficency, but your setup certainly looks more then adiquet.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

well it has a thermalright xp-120 on it with a 120mm aero cool fan doing 90cfm. i can touch the side of it closest to the cpu and it is cool. but i think the heat is coming from the bottom of the case. ?????? i dont know. i know alot about computers but this is my first NICE and i want it to stay cool.

 

[pkrush]

If the heatsink's cool and you're getting about 45c temps on the CPU, then I'd guess that you applied the thermal paste on the XP120 improperly. Also, it might be a good idea to flip the fan on the XP-120 (so it's blowing up and not fighting with the rear case fan) and remove the side intake fan. Alternatively, duct the fan on the XP120 to the side intake so it can pull fresh air in easier. If the side fan isn't an intake, you should probably make it an intake. Lastly, you could always do what I'm doing, which is having no fan on the XP120 at all, but ducting it to my rear case fans. I'm currently running at 39C load with an Athlon 64 3200+.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

im running at 48c full load o the cpu but the mobo likes to run at about 57c full load

 

[tylerdustin2008]

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[tylerdustin2008]

any really good 120mm fans? aero cool has the turbine ones any others

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Ok, sorry it took me so long to get back, long work day. My suggestions:

1) cable management!!!!!!! some twisty ties to get it all pulled together till you get your permanant psu would suffice and should help, quite a bit.

2) check flow ratings of all fans, it appears you have 3x80mm intakes and 1x120mm + 1x80mm exhast wich, with a high power 120 could create a negative case pressure, the chipset is usually the first indication of a negative case pressure in my experience.

3) turn down your cpu fan, I have an xp-120 also and have experimented with it and anything abot 50cfm was either negligable or actually hindered performance.

4) it's veyr difficult to tell from your pictures but, it appears your GPU is shedding it's heat right there in the bottom of the case, I would remove one of the PCI slot filler's at the back of the case closest to the bottom of your video card so that some of the air being blown in from those front fase can go directly through that area and help drop temps for both your chipset and gpu.

For refrenct PWM is short for PoWer Management, it is a series of mosfets that regulate voltage to ALL mother board componets. Converting 3.3v down to 1.4 for the cpu is among the most heat creating just because of the wattage moder cpu's pull. it has to shed that extra power somehow, and heat is how it does it, that is true for ALL electronics to one degree or another.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

thanks for all of the help i will try and see what it does. And if anyone has anymore things that would help i would love to know what you have to tell me.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

Thanks for the help the mobo is running at 47c on idle, that is really nice but is there anyway to get it coller on air

 

[DerwenArtos12]

an aftermarket cooler can help a lot. 47c on idle isn't bad. Mine runs about the same with an aftermarket cooler, my problem is a lack or airflow in the case. With the overclocks I have i need a better flowing case. Wich is in the works. Some of my parts were delayed so I couldn't get the thread up just yet but, it should be soon.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

yea, i havent overclcked mine yet i just ordered a new fan off of newegg. it has more airflow than one of the ones that came with the case.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

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