PricklyPete
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There was a recent nutritional book put out by a PSU professor that gives diet plans for heavy meals that don't have a ton of Calories and are good nutritionally. Supposed to be cool and might be the next big diet.
Try to limit High Fructose foods. It is been proven that foods made with High Fructose Corn Syrup (which is a mixture of both Glucose and Fructose) are less satiating than foods made with real sugar, Sucrose (Glucose bonded to Fructose). It has been suggested that Fructose is overall less satiating than Glucose. It means that you don't feel as full.
It is also known that Fructose is more lipogenic (more likely to be converted to fats in the body) than glucose because it needs to be converted. It also suggested that fructose doesn't contribute to the perception of a sugar surge after eating and that this has something to do with not feeling as full.
Source: Med School Biochem and Nutrition.
Try to limit High Fructose foods. It is been proven that foods made with High Fructose Corn Syrup (which is a mixture of both Glucose and Fructose) are less satiating than foods made with real sugar, Sucrose (Glucose bonded to Fructose). It has been suggested that Fructose is overall less satiating than Glucose. It means that you don't feel as full.
It is also known that Fructose is more lipogenic (more likely to be converted to fats in the body) than glucose because it needs to be converted. It also suggested that fructose doesn't contribute to the perception of a sugar surge after eating and that this has something to do with not feeling as full.
Source: Med School Biochem and Nutrition.
Ephedra is also a stimulant that I am pretty sure is banned in the US. It was the main ingredient in Hydroxycut back when it actually worked. It is supposed to do wonders for losing weight but reak havoc on your heart, liver and kidneys.
Yes, your continued hunger after a big meal is an insulun spike. Letting this continue is likely to cause you big problems as you get older. Keep the carbohydrate intake in check.
dullard
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- May 21, 2001
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Fiber and Protein. Those are the two things that make people feel full for a long time. Especially fiber. Look for satiation indicies (often called a satiety index) on the foods you eat. Satiation is a measure of how long a food item will keep you full. You want foods that make you feel full for a long time. The results have been well-studied yet still surprize so many nutrition "experts". But, these are the same experts who's advice has failed out country for decades - so it shouldn't be too shocking that the experts don't understand this basic concept. People need to feel full for a long time if they want to have a good chance at sticking to a diet plan (even if your diet isn't meant to lose weight).
Some people just never feel full. Just like goldfish will always be willing to eat, so will some people. I believe it is genetic as it tends to go in families and it is linked to other genetic factors - but I haven't seen a study on it (nor have I looked either). So, don't strive to be full. Instead, strive to end the hunger. They are two different things.
But food isn't the only way to stay satisfied. Much of it is mental. For example, people tend to be more satisfied for longer periods of time when eating from smaller dishes. The food just appeared to be bigger and thus they mentally feel fuller. It is strange, but it is true. Eat many small meals from even smaller plates.
Also, exercise's main benefit to weight loss is that people with moderate to high exercise levels tend to eat LESS. They are satisfied with less food. So get out and do some exercise.
Some people just never feel full. Just like goldfish will always be willing to eat, so will some people. I believe it is genetic as it tends to go in families and it is linked to other genetic factors - but I haven't seen a study on it (nor have I looked either). So, don't strive to be full. Instead, strive to end the hunger. They are two different things.
But food isn't the only way to stay satisfied. Much of it is mental. For example, people tend to be more satisfied for longer periods of time when eating from smaller dishes. The food just appeared to be bigger and thus they mentally feel fuller. It is strange, but it is true. Eat many small meals from even smaller plates.
Also, exercise's main benefit to weight loss is that people with moderate to high exercise levels tend to eat LESS. They are satisfied with less food. So get out and do some exercise.
shortylickens
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- Jul 15, 2003
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eat more meals which are smaller in size and fill your stomach with veggies to take up space. Fruits too.
Here's the deal with hunger: it happens. Here's the deal with your stomach: it can shrink. The less you eat the smaller your stomach can become. Smaller means you fill up faster and feel full longer. This shit doesn't happen over night. Believe it or not make a chance to eat less takes what we consider the equivalent of work.
Just don't eat until you feel that point where you really need that food. I hit that point quicker because I'm hypoglycemic, so I just eat more smaller meals.
fustercluck
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I was looking into lap-band surgery recently and it sounded like it would be the right thing for me. Too expensive for me, but maybe you should look into it. You can read about it online but to make a long story short it makes you feel full after eating less, which is what you want.
- Jan 6, 2002
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change of plans, I met a competitive eater today. And he makes a living eating. He's not rich but he's not struggling either. I talked to him about how/what I eat and the one eating contest I entered. He said he believes I might be able to do it if I started to train.
Maybe this is my calling. My one eating contest was grilled cheese, I ate 15 with 2 slices of cheese each in 4 minutes. I didn't win, but I didn't train either - ended up 5th place. He said anyone who can eat that many grilled cheese without training could possibly be a contender on the smaller circuit. I typically eat slow but for money I think I could compete lol.
*sits back and waits for the ATOT fattie brigade to come and unleash hell on me*
Maybe this is my calling. My one eating contest was grilled cheese, I ate 15 with 2 slices of cheese each in 4 minutes. I didn't win, but I didn't train either - ended up 5th place. He said anyone who can eat that many grilled cheese without training could possibly be a contender on the smaller circuit. I typically eat slow but for money I think I could compete lol.
*sits back and waits for the ATOT fattie brigade to come and unleash hell on me*
RocksteadyDotNet
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I met a man who makes a living eating, he gets paid by his sponsors and he gets the bulk of his food for free. I like the idea of basically eating for my job, "Quebert what did you do today at work?" "ohh... I ate 10 platters of chicken wings" that doesn't sound half bad lol. I know I could do it if I trained, yes a few days ago I did want to eat less. But I think I'm kidding myself, maybe I'm one of those freaks of nature who's calling is to try to eat 50+ Nathens in the Hot Dog eating content. I had no carbs today at all and ended up eating 8 8 ounce boneless Rib Eye steaks. I tried eating slow, and steady throughout the day, and I never felt full lol. Maybe it takes more than one day I dunno, but 4 lb's of steak should fill anyone up - I had one steak about every hour for 8 hours.
Jeff7
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- Jan 4, 2001
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I recommend the "forget to eat" diet, or else the "food is annoying as hell" diet, both of which I seem to be on. 
Also the "I'm cheap" diet.
Forget to eat: Sometimes if I'm busy with something relatively sedentary, such as homework, I'll forget to eat for 6-8hrs.
Food is annoying: If I'm busy and I notice my hands start to shake, then I need to interrupt what I'm doing to get food. Food also makes dirty dishes, and requires preparation: Annoying time wasters.
I'm cheap: I don't like buying convenience foods, such as stuff from campus cafes or vending machines. So on days when I forget to bring along lunch, I just don't eat anything until I get home, and my days are 8-12hrs long.
Most weeks, I seem to maintain my weight within about 2lbs, though during stressful weeks, I can drop 5lbs, though these measures are dependent on the accuracy of my cheap POS K-mart-special scale.
Now if I had an industrial load cell and a suitable output circuit, I could build a scale that would likely be accurate to within a small fraction of an ounce.
"My job? I have sex. And I get paid for it. Have fun in your tight little cubicle. I'll be having fun in something tight today, but it sure as hell isn't a cubicle."
Also the "I'm cheap" diet.Forget to eat: Sometimes if I'm busy with something relatively sedentary, such as homework, I'll forget to eat for 6-8hrs.
Food is annoying: If I'm busy and I notice my hands start to shake, then I need to interrupt what I'm doing to get food. Food also makes dirty dishes, and requires preparation: Annoying time wasters.
I'm cheap: I don't like buying convenience foods, such as stuff from campus cafes or vending machines. So on days when I forget to bring along lunch, I just don't eat anything until I get home, and my days are 8-12hrs long.
Most weeks, I seem to maintain my weight within about 2lbs, though during stressful weeks, I can drop 5lbs, though these measures are dependent on the accuracy of my cheap POS K-mart-special scale.
Now if I had an industrial load cell and a suitable output circuit, I could build a scale that would likely be accurate to within a small fraction of an ounce.
Go into porn instead.
"My job? I have sex. And I get paid for it. Have fun in your tight little cubicle. I'll be having fun in something tight today, but it sure as hell isn't a cubicle."
So what you're telling us is this whole post was shens and you're making a mockery of our interest in your original post, which was complete bullshit. Kind of like a long post that ends in a Fresh Prince verse.
DIAF fat ass...
your stomach doesn't tell your brain its full for 20 minutes. Eat slowly. Drink 20 oz of water before and after.
- Jan 6, 2002
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that's the problem, my stomach isn't telling my brain shit, I ate those steaks yesterday slow, maybe 25 minutes to eat just a steak. I was chewing the hell out of each bite and taking a pause in between to sip some water. When I hit steak # 6 and I was on mu 3rd lb in as many hours and still felt like I could go on doing this all day. That's when I started to see it wasn't my over carbing, or me eating fast (which I never do) 8 hours had passed I had eaten 4 lb of Rib Eye, and honestly while I stopped eating it wasn't due to me being full. I believe most reasonable people wouldn't be able to do that, well they wouldn't even want to try lol.
I did (do?) want to eat less, not for health reasons or anything, but I've been doing it so long. When I'm not eating it feels weird, and my stomach goes "WTF!" Something is wrong with me, something doctors can't diagnose.
meltdown75
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rudeguy
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It sounds like you are having a battle of your self will and your will power. Your self will is your basic instinct (eating) run riot. Everyone needs to eat but sometimes people's fear of going hungry goes out of control. Then you are trying to keep that in check with will power. Which is more powerful? Your instincts of course. So you are fighting a losing battle.
How do you fix the situation? I don't know. But thats what I see going on.
Juked07
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I think the average teenage guy could down that amount of food in that time, with varying levels of discomfort. I'm pretty sure I (19, 5'8, 145 lbs) wouldn't experience any discomfort eating at that pace.
Did you tell us how old you are yet?
If you're young, it's probably not even a problem at all. You'll slow down when your metabolism slows.
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