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I want to buy a new HDD - SATA II + NCQ

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Blazin Trav

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I want to buy a new HDD but I want a controller that takes full advantage of NCQ. Is there a PCI card that can do this? Will a SATA II HDD work with my SATA plugs on my NF7-S v2 or will I need to use a PCI card like I mentioned...?

EDIT:

I'm not sure. I like the access read time of this drive here:
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=22-145-047&depa=0

The 250GB 16mb cache is a little less than $200, I'm not sure that is worth the investment.
 
I don't think you understand NCQ. In order to take "full advantage" you would need to be running a server. NCQ has almost no benefit (and can sometimes be slower) outside of a multiuser environment.

So read about SATA NCQ (or TCQ, as it has been called on SCSI drives for about 15 years).
http://storagereview.com/artic...406/20040625TCQ_5.html

To answer your question, a SATA II drive will work fine on your NF7-S, but it won't support NCQ. There are Promise cards that support NCQ.
 
Originally posted by: Tostada
I don't think you understand NCQ. In order to take "full advantage" you would need to be running a server. NCQ has almost no benefit (and can sometimes be slower) outside of a multiuser environment.

So read about SATA NCQ (or TCQ, as it has been called on SCSI drives for about 15 years).
http://storagereview.com/artic...406/20040625TCQ_5.html

To answer your question, a SATA II drive will work fine on your NF7-S, but it won't support NCQ. There are Promise cards that support NCQ.
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Will the "II" make it run any faster than SATA will?

Thank you,
Trav
 
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: Tostada
I don't think you understand NCQ. In order to take "full advantage" you would need to be running a server. NCQ has almost no benefit (and can sometimes be slower) outside of a multiuser environment.

So read about SATA NCQ (or TCQ, as it has been called on SCSI drives for about 15 years).
http://storagereview.com/artic...406/20040625TCQ_5.html

To answer your question, a SATA II drive will work fine on your NF7-S, but it won't support NCQ. There are Promise cards that support NCQ.
Click to expand...

Will the "II" make it run any faster than SATA will?

Thank you,
Trav
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Nope.
A large proportion of the UDMA/66 drives cannot sustain a read speed of more than 66Mb/sec yet, so even SATA (from a performance point of view) is unnecessary with single drives at the moment. SATA-II is even more unnecessary.
 
SATA I is sufficient today for desktop use, but SATA II adds some interesting hot-swap functionalities.

The Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA drive with 16GB buffer cache is a brilliant drive, I have 2 of these. (The absolute fastest SATA drive today is the WD raptor series, but these cost a factor 3 times more, I use these as boot drives in all my PCs).

Some interesting performance info:
Using the built-in RAID-1 capabilities of my Asus A8V mainboard BIOS, I mirrored my boot drive (a WD SATA raptor 74GB) to another WD SATA raptor 74GB. This took 20 minutes, i.e. equivalent to a sustained average throughput of 58Mbytes/second.
 
Originally posted by: FlirtyToad
SATA I is sufficient today for desktop use, but SATA II adds some interesting hot-swap functionalities.

The Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA drive with 16GB buffer cache is a brilliant drive, I have 2 of these. (The absolute fastest SATA drive today is the WD raptor series, but these cost a factor 3 times more, I use these as boot drives in all my PCs).

Some interesting performance info:
Using the built-in RAID-1 capabilities of my Asus A8V mainboard BIOS, I mirrored my boot drive (a WD SATA raptor 74GB) to another WD SATA raptor 74GB. This took 20 minutes, i.e. equivalent to a sustained average throughput of 58Mbytes/second.
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Okay I think I am getting one of these, then a 2nd one at a later date:
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=22-148-040&depa=0
 
Seagate has a new line that supports these features as well. I have 400GB model and it works wonderfully.
 
I was looking into upgrading one of my older computers to SATA. From what I found out it seems like adding a sata pci card is a waste of time. The PCI bus cannot handle the throughput of the SATA deives so you would be limeted to the speed of the PCI bus. It seems that you would be better off using the onboard PATA as these are not limited by the pci bus. Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.
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Oh, I didn't even look to see whether the drives were SATA or IDE. Wonder why they don't have a RAID Edition in SATA.
 
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: FlirtyToad
SATA I is sufficient today for desktop use, but SATA II adds some interesting hot-swap functionalities.

The Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA drive with 16GB buffer cache is a brilliant drive, I have 2 of these. (The absolute fastest SATA drive today is the WD raptor series, but these cost a factor 3 times more, I use these as boot drives in all my PCs).

Some interesting performance info:
Using the built-in RAID-1 capabilities of my Asus A8V mainboard BIOS, I mirrored my boot drive (a WD SATA raptor 74GB) to another WD SATA raptor 74GB. This took 20 minutes, i.e. equivalent to a sustained average throughput of 58Mbytes/second.
Click to expand...


Okay I think I am getting one of these, then a 2nd one at a later date:
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=22-148-040&depa=0
Click to expand...

I got one of these for $65 shipped. Not too bad. Anyways the 300gb 16mb cache is nice, it's great to know HDDs have come this far.
 
Originally posted by: Blazin Trav
Originally posted by: FlirtyToad
SATA I is sufficient today for desktop use, but SATA II adds some interesting hot-swap functionalities.

The Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA drive with 16GB buffer cache is a brilliant drive, I have 2 of these. (The absolute fastest SATA drive today is the WD raptor series, but these cost a factor 3 times more, I use these as boot drives in all my PCs).

Some interesting performance info:
Using the built-in RAID-1 capabilities of my Asus A8V mainboard BIOS, I mirrored my boot drive (a WD SATA raptor 74GB) to another WD SATA raptor 74GB. This took 20 minutes, i.e. equivalent to a sustained average throughput of 58Mbytes/second.
Click to expand...


Okay I think I am getting one of these, then a 2nd one at a later date:
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=22-148-040&depa=0
Click to expand...

Great choice, I have the older IDE model and it is a wonderful drive. Very quiet and fast.
 
NCQ slows down performance for desktop users. You'd want to disable it. SATA II currently provides no benefits either. I can't even saturate the 150mb/s SATA bus with my 74GB Raptor.
 
Originally posted by: Gerbil333
NCQ slows down performance for desktop users. You'd want to disable it. SATA II currently provides no benefits either. I can't even saturate the 150mb/s SATA bus with my 74GB Raptor.
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All true. Except the hot swapping SATA II ability can be useful.
 
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