if i had 20k to spend, id get a WRX or RSX hands down. To me, those cars are well worth 20k. This guy is looking at a celica for the look of the car, he cares less for performance. So dood, look at it this way. A corola is a 4 door car, so its not "sporty" whereas a coupe is. The celica gt and corola are the same exact engine, so use that to your advantage at the dealership. Tell him you want a celica for the looks, not the performance. Tell him that you could easily buy a corola and get the same performance, but you want the celica's looks. Meet the guy half way, and he should lend you a nice helping hand. All dealers care about is emptying their lot. If a person with HORRIBLE credit can drive off in a Mustang GT, then its possible for you to cut a good deal for a celica GT. I bet if you try hard enough, you can get a new celica GT for $17-18k. Just push the point that your paying for the look, not the performance, and that you could easily buy a corola over a celica, but you want the look. He cant deny the fact that you know the cars performance abilities, hes gotta rid of the car, you just gotta work him like a lil biznatch. 😀