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I want opinions on this board and processor combo

Light gaming (I'm big into RTS stuff), general internet, office, and the big reason I opted for the high priced celeron d was to gain access for the sse3 instructions for quicker video encoding (again light stuff for family, school type vids)

I already own a gig of pc2700 ram, the case, etc. Was looking at a great bang for buck upgrade with just replacing processor and board.

I'm selling some old equipment I have laying around, and my total cost out of pocket is around 50 bucks
 
I looked at a the sempron on the 754 boards. The lowest cost 754 board I could find was in the 50$ range - note the 30$ range on this board. The lowest cost sempron I could find was 78$ for the sempron 2600 754 model - which is just as expensive as this combo.

The sempron is also running at 1.6 gigahertz with only 128 meg cache - that seems like a step backwards ?
 
Originally posted by: episodic
I looked at a the sempron on the 754 boards. The lowest cost 754 board I could find was in the 50$ range - note the 30$ range on this board. The lowest cost sempron I could find was 78$ for the sempron 2600 754 model - which is just as expensive as this combo.

The sempron is also running at 1.6 gigahertz with only 128 meg cache - that seems like a step backwards ?
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celeron:
32+114=$146
sempron:
56+88 = $144
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Light gaming (I'm big into RTS stuff), general internet, office, and the big reason I opted for the high priced celeron d was to gain access for the sse3 instructions for quicker video encoding (again light stuff for family, school type vids)

I already own a gig of pc2700 ram, the case, etc. Was looking at a great bang for buck upgrade with just replacing processor and board.

I'm selling some old equipment I have laying around, and my total cost out of pocket is around 50 bucks
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Try this http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104224#DetailSpecs with this http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138247

Close to the same cost and performance with 64 bits for future Win64.
 
Originally posted by: shoRunner
Originally posted by: episodic
I looked at a the sempron on the 754 boards. The lowest cost 754 board I could find was in the 50$ range - note the 30$ range on this board. The lowest cost sempron I could find was 78$ for the sempron 2600 754 model - which is just as expensive as this combo.

The sempron is also running at 1.6 gigahertz with only 128 meg cache - that seems like a step backwards ?
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celeron:
32+114=$146
sempron:
56+88 = $144
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You still did not address the celeron d running at 2.93 gigahertz vs the 1.6 or 1.8 ghz for he semprons, having the sse3 instruction set, and being about the same value? All the benches show the celeron d being much better than the old celerons.
Hey, I've built athlons since the thunderbirds - but this time I'm actually compelled to intel? Comments on this or a specific bench against a celeron D and a a sempron 2600 754?
 
Clock speed has nothing to do with how well it performs. I'd stay away from Intel Celerons at all costs.

Even your Athlon 1700+ could give that celeron a run for the money. And also think of the upgradeability of the socket 754 board as well. I'd still go for the sempron 2800+ as anand has shown some benchmarks of its overall performance.
 
i can't seem to remember where i saw the review of the socket 754 semprons. all i can find is the higher end ones. you can find reviews for the socket A semprons but that is a completely different chip compared to the socket 754 chips. the lower clock speed means nothing. which is why you have a FX-55 at 2.6ghz beating the pentium 4 @ 3.8ghz. the differents is the IPC(instructions per clockcycle) and the integrated memory controller of the a64's, amoung other things.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2395

you can see that the 3100 beats the celeron d at 3.06ghz so with a little extrapolation you could see how the 2800 would fair against the 2.93ghz celeron d
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Comments on this or a specific bench against a celeron D and a a sempron 2600 754?
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This might give you an idea. Link It's an older article but it should help you decide. Oh, and SSE3 isn't worth it unless you know you have specific applications that take advantage of it. 64 bits will be much more valuable in the long run.
 
Originally posted by: Rike
Originally posted by: episodic
Comments on this or a specific bench against a celeron D and a a sempron 2600 754?
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This might give you an idea. Link It's an older article but it should help you decide. Oh, and SSE3 isn't worth it unless you know you have specific applications that take advantage of it. 64 bits will be much more valuable in the long run.
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the only problem with that is most of those are socket A semprons which are completely different than the socket 754 semprons
 
go sempron, I had a cele-d before my 2800+ and my sempron is out performing it. At 2.ghz my sempron was already doing about the same as my cele-d2.8@3.3 ghz.

encoding wise: my sempron does a bit slower than my cele@3.3

inshort: sempron hands down. cheaper and faster and overclocks very well

EDIT: also a lot cooler my cele-d@3.3ghz ran at 59-61C load
my sempron is runnign 52-54C load
 
Episodic:

I generally agree with the AMD Sempron "camp". However, as a person that realizes that INTEL is still a good choice for many users and assuming your board choice will support a "Northwood" P4 (and I don't know why it would not) and you are not concerned about long-term upgrading and you are willing to spend just a few bucks more than the Celeron have you considered something like This RETAIL "Northwood" offering at NEWEGG ??? I base this option on information contained in this ANANDTECH article ! Please pay particular attention to the FIRST and SEVENTH paragraphs of the "Final Words" page.

Furthermore your 1 GIG of PC2700 RAM would be compatible with this system and the final DELIVERED price would be $161.97 !!!

Greg
 
Originally posted by: shoRunner
Originally posted by: Rike
Originally posted by: episodic
Comments on this or a specific bench against a celeron D and a a sempron 2600 754?
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This might give you an idea. Link It's an older article but it should help you decide. Oh, and SSE3 isn't worth it unless you know you have specific applications that take advantage of it. 64 bits will be much more valuable in the long run.
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the only problem with that is most of those are socket A semprons which are completely different than the socket 754 semprons
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Yes most are Socket A, but some are not and that IS useful. 😛 If you have a better link, you're more than welcome to post it. I don't track the low cost market much; I'd like to see a link that has something more on target to show performance comparisons in this market.
 
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