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i wanna upgrade my 700mhz P 3

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Get the highest quality power supply you can.

This board is very picky about power.

Each slot can accept a max 512MB of RAM. That means you're limited to 1GB. I'd start out with a single stick of name brand (Samsung is good) PC2700 or PC3200. Which ever one you're able to afford.
 
Originally posted by: FishTankX
Get the highest quality power supply you can.

I'd start out with a single stick of name brand (Samsung is good) PC2700 or PC3200. Which ever one you're able to afford.
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according to the mobo specs from the site i listed , the following is shown

MEMORY

2 DDR DIMM sockets and 2 DIMM sockets support (can not be used simultaneously)

Two 168-pin 3.3V SDRAM (PC100, PC133)
Maximum: 1.0GB (DDR or SDRAM)

Two 184-pin DDR SDRAM (DDR200, DDR266) or

i think that means it can only take 266 or 200 mhz rams. Now theres only a 256mb pc100 ram according to those specs at 266 mhz , whioch i plan to buy. I think its the non ecc memory that will work. Pls correct me if im wrong. But i think thats the exact ram stick i need.

actually i think ill try getting 1 single 512 mb stick and put it in the mobo.

Also, does getting a higher power supply damage a mobo by any chance? or does it automatically distribute the power.
PS- i know im being all picky and bugging you guys but i really need to know about this upgrading stuff.

thanks
 
**** im so confused , what is the difference between non ECC and ECC....is it safe to have ECC or the other one, which is better????

thanks

some one is sellin 2 512mb sticks that i can get for 70 bux canadian, its ecc

so should i get it?
 
man i just realized thatz a lot of posts u got there in this thread lol

well ne way ECC is normally used in server boards, u dont need it,u can get non ECC ram , its usually cheaper
 
I just discovered about agp 8x mobos. If i have a agp 4x, will the high endcards work well enough with that mobo, or will i have to upgrade to a agp 8 x mobo. Plus will older cards work well on agp 8x machines? Will i have the smoothness with agp 4x or do i need agp 8x now.

 
man u sure r inquisitive

no offense but u might wanan read some article or feature on at or tomshardware even
 
Now that you have the mobo, just get a good 300-350 watt PSU (Enlight or sparkle seem good for the inexspensive ones), and an XP2400 CPU(that mobo won't support a 333 bus like the 2500 needs), and a GF4 4200 or a Radeon 9100, and you are good to go.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY OVER!

YOU ARE A CLUELESS N00B THAT DOESNT LISTEN TO A DAMN WORK WE SAY


DUDE, GET A DELL
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I think I'll have to second that... well, at least the last line 😀
 
screw that mobo, now im thinkin of getting the ultra machine..opls give your suggestions thanks

CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
512K 333FSB SOCKET A
3 years manufacter warranty
Motherboard: MSI K7N2G motherboard
MS-6570
5PCI ATA133 USB2.0

Memory: Samsung 512MB DDR400
PC3200 DDR400 184PIN
Video: nForce 2 Integrated Graphic Processor
GeForce 4 MX Equivalent


Audio: nForce 2 Integrated Sound
Hard Drive: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM
MAXTOR DIAMONDMAX PLUS 8 40GB 7200RPM 2MB ATA133
Ultra-Quiet FDB System
CD/DVD: LG 16x DVD / 48x24x48x CD-RW Combo Drive

Network Card: 10/100 network onboard
Case: Deluxe ATX case
NIKAO KG8850
Power Supply: 300W
18 in x 8in x 16in
4 x 5.25" and 2 x 3.5" (plus 5 x 3.5" hidden)
Front USB and Audio ports
Thumbs Screws for easy maintenance
Thermometer sensor with display screen in front panel included

is this good enough????
 
Originally posted by: nick1985

DUDE, GET A DELL
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I agree. Save yourself the trouble and buy a prebuilt one. If you don't know what a GPU is, you probably can't handle building your own PC and all of the troubleshooting involved that will definetly come up.
 
well i finally made up my mind guys 🙂

here is what i wanna get for sure

Abit NF7-s version 2.0 mobo
512 ddr pc3200 ram( some good brand that works well with the mobo)
400-450 watt PS
Amd xp 2500 processor (hopefully i'll Oc it to 3200 ) - with a lil help from you guys🙂 and the internet
A collig fan/heatsink for the amd processor - pls recommend

this time im buying new parts from online stores so its all good.




 
Originally posted by: jfall
It's not too bad I suppose, however I think you could do better. First, read up on the ECS k7s5a before buying, know what you are getting into. It is a decent board, but has caused a lot of people troubles in the past. All I can say is good luck getting that thing running stable with a 250watt power supply. 256 ram seems a bit low, you should be shooting for at least 512.

Even if you did get this bundle and threw in your GF4 MX, you wouldn't be running the new gen of upcoming games very well. So basically, the gen of games out now will run very good and higher resolutions, but I wouldn't expect this configuration to last very long facing the next gen of games.


If you are in Vancouver you might want to check out http://www.ncix.com if you haven't already. They have some pretty good prices on hardware and great service. Check your budget, see how cheap you can get an Nforce2 board with a CPU and some ram, then add your harddrive.
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I highly recommend NCIX.com.....they are nothing but awesome and prices are great

if your serious about gaming, you need to throw a new video card in that...I dont like the MX series and never have, and its not even a AGP version....if you want something dirt cheap that will at least play games at medium detail, get a Radeon 9100 128MB for $100 cdn with that setup......Ive had good luck with that board in the past....really only problem with it is it sometimes doesnt like cheap PS's and memory. I also recommend you get another stick of memory.....also...if you want to save $100 and not get that Radeon 9100, spend the money now and get a 9500/9700 that will last.

good luck with that rig. That ECS board is not the best, but better than what you got..


but may I recommend, I am not going to be mean..but you really need to sit down and study up...and then when you get everything strait in your head, come back to us..I am more than willing to help you, but by the way it sounds, you are going to have no clue on putting that thing together....and please don't post ebay stuff...go to ncix.com, and go to there used stuff...if you want to go that route....at least they back there used stuff up with warranty.

just remember your always going to get what you pay for, and that you are not a serious gamer 🙂

-adam
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
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Somehow...that doesn't shock me since I've been reading your idiotic condescending posts ever since I joined...you thread crapped on a few of my first forum threads and I'm happy to see your useless bandwidth wasting posts continue.

As far as Apocalypse23....I echo AMDHardcore's comments. The trick with any computer building is balancing what you want, with what you can afford. You've bounced between 200-300 Canadian to build me the kick-@$$ gaming rig. Somewhere in there is the target of what you want, versus what you can afford. Be advised that figuring out what you want and then saving the money for it is backwards of what you want to do. This is because computer technology changes very rapidly and is poised for another influx of new technology (new mb's, new sockets!, new architectures, new graphics cards) are all due in the next 3-4 months and affect both your wants AND what you can afford (i.e. older tech goes down in price).

1. Check out newegg.com
2. Check out NCIX.com
3. Check out the FS/FT area of AnandTech for a much better used hardware environment than eBay.
4. A middle of the road PC with an above average videocard should suffice for most games over the next 1-2 years. You may not be able to play with all the eye candy on (Anti-Aliasing, Anistropic Filtering, High-Resolutions) but they will run (let me clarify by me saying right now, an above average card (such as a 9600 Pro) will let you run games with eye candy on now). For example, I bought a Riva TNT2 chip (Diamond V770) when Descent 3 came out so I could play with all the eye candy on in that game. That card has been sufficient to run all games up until just recently. So that has been 4 solid years(graphics wise), and 2 more so-so years of gaming out of what was a top-of-the-line card at that time. It STILL runs new games if I lower the res and turn off the eye candy.
5. Since its apparent that you were a little light on the technology when you started this thread, its a fair assumption that you might have some difficulty in assembling a computer from scratch yourself. Something to keep in mind.

I hope your system building goes well for you!

P-X
 
If you are going to use the ECS K7S5A, then you had better have a "quality" brand psu such as an antec, sparkle, or enermax of at least 300Watts.

Your best bet on a cpu is to get something like a 2400+ which you can get for $110 at TigerDirect.ca (which is a 2Ghz processor),
and then you need a good heatsink and some decent ram.

You can get 512megs of PC2700 ddr for around $90-100 from Tigerdirect as well as an Antec 300watt psu model sl300s from them for around $59.
You can get an ultra copper hsf combo for around $27 from them too which will cool your cpu very adequately.

So for around $300-310 with shipping, you should have everything else you need besides your mobo to get you started.
You will have to save up more for a good video card later, such as a GF4 Ti4200, 9500Pro, or better, or you can sell off your
stuff that you want to get rid of and buy a Ti4200 for around $130 from Tigerdirect.ca now too.

That is your best option right now unless you want less quality ram or cpu.

 
ur config there... ur missing a video card...and from all your questions... you should either read up on ALOT of FAQ's and such on tomshardware.com or Anadtech.com to learn what parts you need and how to put it together... OR you mite just want to get a DELL...
 
There are lots of HSF (cooler) units that will do the job well on AMD CPU's, but the best (Thermalright SLK800/900) carry a heavy price tag. I've heard good things about Thermaltake Volcano 7+, as well as Zalman HSF's. Choosing a heatsink/fan for AMD CPU is quite a task because there are so many to choose from!
 
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