I voted wholeheartedly for Obama but...

[OneOfTheseDays]

The man just needs to chill. He is trying to do way too much with his agenda right now and it's only serving to create confusion and panic.

Stop with the UHC, stop with the green energy plan, stop with the education reform, just focus on getting this economy back on track and America's confidence restored. I understand he feels like this is probably his best chance to squeeze through his entire agenda, but that is a move out of weakness and insecurity IMHO.

He must have the confidence and strength in his convictions to trust that opportunities will come again for him to get what he wants done and that now simply isn't the time to go full steam ahead. To be honest, now really isn't the time to be going on Jay Leno or ESPN to fill out your brackets either. Americans by and large aren't that hard to impress, at least look like you are focused on the economy and I can guarantee that consumer confidence will rise.

I think too many people had lofty visions of who Obama would be when he entered office. I would hope those visions are coming back down to earth. Obama will have to earn his stripes and learn the hard way how to become an effective leader just like all the great presidents before him. Unlike our Republican brothers though I'm not ready to throw him off the cliff, I still believe that he is capable of doing great things for this country. It's just not going to happen all of a sudden like so many thought.

 

[XZeroII]

I agree, he is capable and hopefully we'll be better off after 4 years. The reason why he is pushing all of this through now is because people are distracted. People are too concerned about the economy to care about UHC, green enerty and bla bla bla. He could declare hair longer than 6 inches to be illegal and it would probably not even make the front page of the newspapers. He is simply taking advantage of a unique situation that may not be around much longer. I don't agree with what he is doing, but I do understand why he is doing it.

 

[frostedflakes]

He's an ambitious man, that's for sure. For better or worse, I think our country is going to be *very* different a decade from now.

To be honest, it's both exciting and scary. I support a number of Democratic policies, but at the same time it's a little crazy to have everything coming at us so fast. I really didn't expect them to try to push through so much so quickly.

 

[0marTheZealot]

I actually agree. One problem at a time.

 

[alphatarget1]

I think the Obama crew (or the Pelosi crew) are the people who believe that the ends justify the means, what they believe is right and what they do don't require consultation from pundits/opposition. However the good intention it may be, it could still end up with disastrous results. I mean come on, fighting in the ME for "justice" is a much less noble cause than trying to fix domestic problems.

Barack Obama's lack of leadership and experience is very evident in his young presidency. I had hoped that he'd do well but it was probably ill placed in a junior senator who really has no experience other than giving speeches to people who were smoking massive amounts of hopium. I fear for the future of this country.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I would hope that he and the rest of the government would be able to handle the economy and the rest of these issues at the same time.

 

[ProfJohn]

So far his presidency has been a mess. Might end up being the worse 100 days ever since he really hasn't accomplished much, other than the stimulus package.

We have gone from the Bush mess to the Obama mess.

It seemed liked Bush had checked out early and left us and the economy adrift. Now after watching Obama crush confidence on Wall Street maybe we were better off with no president rather than a bad one.

I wish I could say that I have hope for this country, but considering that Obama thinks every problem in this country can be solved with a government problem I think we are in for a long four years.

 

[MotF Bane]

He's in there with a mandate, a massive landslide of electoral college votes and all appearances of immense popularity, so he has the political capital to spend, and that is something best burned fast. The problem is that he isn't really delivering on the "change", and he's not focusing enough on the economy, which is almost certainly a large reason of why he won.

 

[Jiggz]

Oh common! It's only been 60 days out of 1461 days and $2T dollars so far. Give him a break and then you will see the "real" change he's been and still campaigning about!

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I think the Obama crew (or the Pelosi crew) are the people who believe that the ends justify the means, what they believe is right and what they do don't require consultation from pundits/opposition. However the good intention it may be, it could still end up with disastrous results. I mean come on, fighting in the ME for "justice" is a much less noble cause than trying to fix domestic problems.

Barack Obama's lack of leadership and experience is very evident in his young presidency. I had hoped that he'd do well but it was probably ill placed in a junior senator who really has no experience other than giving speeches to people who were smoking massive amounts of hopium. I fear for the future of this country.

Ends justify the means? What does that sound like.... hmm... maybe Bush's illegal wiretapping program, the retarded invasion of Iraq because of "WMD".... etc....

Why push these programs later? If they claim to do what he says they'll do - save money for Americans overall, why not push them when the budget is being tightened? Why not try and use your political capital to push through some of your agenda? If the president doesn't give Congress an agenda, they'll twiddle their thumbs and pass stupid shit at the last minute, like the 90% tax on bonuses for bailed out corporations...

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I think the Obama crew (or the Pelosi crew) are the people who believe that the ends justify the means, what they believe is right and what they do don't require consultation from pundits/opposition. However the good intention it may be, it could still end up with disastrous results. I mean come on, fighting in the ME for "justice" is a much less noble cause than trying to fix domestic problems.

Barack Obama's lack of leadership and experience is very evident in his young presidency. I had hoped that he'd do well but it was probably ill placed in a junior senator who really has no experience other than giving speeches to people who were smoking massive amounts of hopium. I fear for the future of this country.

in light of the last 8 years under GWB this post is golden

:laugh:

 

[Craig234]

I disagree - I thinkhe's doing pretty much just what he should, with an asterisk by a couple policies that the jury is out on, but I am glad he's doing things on many topics.

There are really 25 years to get past to get the country back on track, and he's doing the right thing is trying to build what needs building for the country down the road.

 

[sandorski]

Change.

The timing is both Good and Bad. Bad due to the Economic situation, but Good because it is Politically possible. UHC, for eg, would be nearly impossible to pass if there's a split between Pres/Senate/House. If UHC is done right it will be a mid to longterm social and Economic benefit. There is a transitional cost to it though.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
The man just needs to chill. He is trying to do way too much with his agenda right now and it's only serving to create confusion and panic.

Stop with the UHC, stop with the green energy plan, stop with the education reform, just focus on getting this economy back on track and America's confidence restored. I understand he feels like this is probably his best chance to squeeze through his entire agenda, but that is a move out of weakness and insecurity IMHO.

He must have the confidence and strength in his convictions to trust that opportunities will come again for him to get what he wants done and that now simply isn't the time to go full steam ahead. To be honest, now really isn't the time to be going on Jay Leno or ESPN to fill out your brackets either. Americans by and large aren't that hard to impress, at least look like you are focused on the economy and I can guarantee that consumer confidence will rise.

I think too many people had lofty visions of who Obama would be when he entered office. I would hope those visions are coming back down to earth. Obama will have to earn his stripes and learn the hard way how to become an effective leader just like all the great presidents before him. Unlike our Republican brothers though I'm not ready to throw him off the cliff, I still believe that he is capable of doing great things for this country. It's just not going to happen all of a sudden like so many thought.

Yeah, forget education and let the kids continue to be stupid fuckwads, forget growing a sector of huge innovation and an industry for future growth, focus on getting GDP to fall by only 4% instead of 6% in the 3rd quarter and just accept being fucked there on. Yeah, that whole quarter by quarter thing worked well before, it only brought the US this shitstorm, stay the course! That'll bring all the consumer confidence and jobs back.

Jesus christ no wonder why how you dumbasses ended up in this mess.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm going to tell my Mommy on him. Mr. Obama stop doing so much. Just come rock my cradle and tickle me.

 

[newnameman]

?You don?t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it?s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.?

? Rahm Emanuel

 

[sportage]

Bush mess to Obama mess???
Don?t think so... Not even close.
So you expect a new president to clean up 8 years of mis-direction
in what... 100 days???
WHat planet are you from???

And... if Bush had not made the mess in the first place, we wouldn?t be in panic mode in the second place.

So Obama is doing everything wrong? What are the options here???
Another 4 years of republican rule.

You need to realize, it took republicans and GW just 8 years to nearly bring
the entire American way of life to a complete halt. To its knees.

If ones mother were nearly beaten to death. Kicked, punched and
just clinging to life, would you expect old mom to fix dinner, drive the kids to school,
return to everything as normal the very next day???

It "could" just be Obama is capable of envisioning the big picture. Short and long term.
And just maybe he is doing now what he needs to do in order meet our goals down the road.

Hey... God created the earth in seven days, it is said. If one walked in on day two or three of the big bang, they might have asked "what the hell are you doing with all this mess"?
Clouds, smoke, and all this fire...!

While that analogy may sound a bit nutty, it does appear most of Obama's criticizers expect
God-like creations from Obama. And in the same seven day time span.
Lets first have a little faith he will repair the economy. Get us headed back in the right direction.
And then? you can ask to see his walking on water trick.

 

[newnameman]

Originally posted by: sportage
Bu bu bu bu but Bush!!!

Summed that post up for you. :thumbsup:

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I don't expect Obama to fix everything over night.

All I'm asking for is a little clarity and focus from him and his administration. Stop being all over the map, trying to do everything for everyone.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: newnameman

Originally posted by: sportage
Bu bu bu bu but Bush!!!

Let's pretend the last 8 years didn't happen and blame it all on Obama. :thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:

 

[spidey07]

What are you talking about? He campaigned on destroying the country fast and that's exactly what he is doing. No surprise here. He's doing exactly what he said he would do and you fools voted for him.

 

[squirrel dog]

I would think he is trying to force feed his agenda now while his popularity is at its highest point.In a year or two or three or four,he may have trouble getting anything done.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Why push these programs later? If they claim to do what he says they'll do - save money for Americans overall, why not push them when the budget is being tightened? Why not try and use your political capital to push through some of your agenda? If the president doesn't give Congress an agenda, they'll twiddle their thumbs and pass stupid shit at the last minute, like the 90% tax on bonuses for bailed out corporations...

Because it doesn't matter whether the programs' intentions are good or not. Something that is hastily rushed through without scrutiny is just disaster in the making.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: OrByte

in light of the last 8 years under GWB this post is golden

:laugh:

You have anything more substantial to contribute than to bring up GWB every time someone criticizes your messiah? For the record Bush did a terrible job, and I didn't vote for him.

Here, smoke some more hopium and pretend things will get better.

 

[shadow9d9]

Stop healthcare, energy, and education? hahaha! That is some good stuff!