I thought xp was supposed to be as stable as 2000

[SemperFi]

Ok I have been running xp for 3 days now and windows will just stop responding. alt-ctrl-del does nothing end up pushing reset. It has done this like 20 times over the past couple of days. It doesn't matter how long the machine has been running. Sometimes it happens quick other times it has been on for hours. Cpu temp has been 42C so I don't think heat is a factor. I first had problems when I had multiple IE windows open and couple of others and the taskbar grouped the ie windows. Now this will happen with just one IE window and occasionally with others.

Most of the times it locked up I had internet explorer running. It also locked up once early in the install of office 2000 disk 2. You can see my newly upgraded system in my sig.

There is one other thing that may or may not be part of this problem. In the event viewer there are 40 warnings all are one of these three listed below with a bunch of numbers afterward.

The COM+ Event System failed to fire the StartShell method on subscription
The COM+ Event System failed to fire the ConnectionMade method on subscription
The COM+ Event System failed to fire the Logon method on subscription
The COM+ Event System failed to fire the Logoff method on subscription

Does anyone know what these mean and could it be causing my lockup problems.

This is driving me nuts. :frown: I would like to just goback to 2000 but the wife she likes xp.

Thanks

Semper Fi

 

[managerdan]

Could you provide a little more information? If you're getting that many crashes, what sort of notice are you getting for the cause of those problems? XP has this notice feature to help identify the problem. Also, is there any conflicts showing in Control Panel/System/Device Manager? Have you downloaded the latest driver for your Radeon video card yet? I think the latest one is number 6015.
I'm running XP Pro, and it's most stable with no crashes on my computer.

 

[SemperFi]

Dan, thanks for the reply

I have 6015 for the radeon and I have no conflicts in device manager. Where do I find this notice feature? I am not familiar with it.

Most of the times that this has happened is while running ie. Usually it is right after I click a link and I will wait a few seconds and when the page hasn't changed I grab the mouse and notice it isn't responding.

There is one thing. Windows update had a new driver for my Logitech mouse and I didn't download it because I don't like the software that comes with so I skipped it. Well I downloaded it yesterday and installed it. So far it hasn't locked up again. Could it have been something that stupid? The driver was dated September of last year so I figured it would be on the install cd.

I'm not sure what other info to provide. I am going to log off and try a different user. Yesterday I was setting up a different user account and I got on the net and it locked up like 6 times in a 20 minute period.

Hopefully it was the mouse driver. I just didn't think that would cause this problem.

Semper Fi

Edit/ BTW installing that driver didn't install the software that logitech has so all worked out.

 

[Zlash]

Could very easily be a mouse driver like that hehe. Some things it likes and some it doesn't...just gotta try different drivers til one works.

 

[Passions]

winXP is stable just as win2k. make sure you downloaded all the service packs and updates from windowsupdates. Try different video card drivers and 4in1 versions.

 

[PatrickH]

I am sure XP will be just as stable as 2k when the few remaining bugs have been sorted out

 

[SemperFi]

I have downloaded all of windows updates and drivers except for the mouse driver. Maybe that was it. It hasn't locked up in close to a day. Boy I didn't think a mouse driver would do that. :Q

Now if I could just get my monitor to stop flashing. I bought all of this stuff to upgrade the day I recieved my order my monitor goes on the fritz. If it wasn't for bad luck I would have no luck at all.

 

[Abzstrak]

I am sure XP will be just as stable as 2k when the few remaining bugs have been sorted out

No, right now its just as stable... or to put it differently they both have about the same level of bugginess.

Point is SUCK IT UP if you want to use microsoft OS's then deal with bugs. XP is a minor revision of 2000, its not some new OS that MS is testing out on people.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Nah I think 2000 is more stable personally. Also, it's a tighter OS. Example: pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del brings up the task manager INSTANTLY in 2000 every time. In XP sometimes it takes 10+ seconds depending what program you're in (this is on any computer, even 2+ GHz ones). Also, 2000 never ever ever crashed for me, whereas XP has.

I run XP for universal compatibility, but I think 2000 is the most stable OS I've ever used. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Saltin]

<< No, right now its just as stable... or to put it differently they both have about the same level of bugginess. >>



That's not true at all.
I've been using both 2k and XP in production environments for some time. (obviously 2k for much longer).
XP is obviously less stable at this point than 2k is. How could it be otherwise? It is in its infancy.

Ive seen a decent number of blue screens on XP pro. Most have them are a result of app incompatabilities and driver issues. Nevertheless, they are bluescreens.

Ive seen a 2k bluescreen once in the last year.

Does this mean 2k is the superior OS? Well it depends on what you want. They tried to put alot of functionality into XP. I think in essence it was built with the home market in mind. An upgrade for 95 and 98 users.

2k was never meant for the home. It's a production network desktop OS . In my mind, it's the best ever. It's leaner than XP becuase of this. It is less buggy than XP because of this and its seniority.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Oh yeah and if

<< XP is a minor revision of 2000 >>

then howcome M$ is touting it as the biggest upgrade / change since Windows 95 (not to mention it's ridiculous price)? I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but it IS a pretty major update to the Windows operating system, not a "minor revision," and there are lots of core differences between XP and every other windows.

 

[Aquinas]

I find it strange that people offer normative opinions as if they were positive fact on these bulletin boards. Without comparing the type of hardware you are running on, it is almost worthless to say that XP crashes more than 2000 or etc. I have experience installing both OSs on a number of computers ranging from the bottom of the min requirements to far exceeding them. In my experience almost all of the problems encountered (blue screens and the such) are the result of incompatible drivers (a biggie) or software. I cannot really remember a time when XP or 2000 froze on me or behaved unusually without me provoking it with a driver change or installing new software. Just my 2 cents, cheers!

 

[BlitzRommel]

I second what Aquinas said; Im no sure what you guys are doing to your computers, but I've pretty much never have had any problems installing Windows ever since 95. If I've never had a problem, and many people have, then what does that tell me? Not necessarily that I build computers better than them, but that I'm careful about what I change. I dunno, just my two cents. It's mostly hardware problems (Software drivers) IMO.

 

[zigCorsair]

I had issues with a mouse on my desktop - actually, it was MSFT, but once I switched it out (maybe the equivalent of new driver), the exact random problem you are describing went away .

 

[MrWhiteUK]

Semper upgrade to the latest messenger and those messages will disappear.

 

[SemperFi]

Zig, I think you are right. I spent an hour or two in 2 different users surfing and hasn't locked up yet. Man I can't believe a mouse driver caused this. Ohwell I guess it had to be something.

Thanks for all of the input.

MrWhiteUK Thanks alot. That is another update off of windows update that I opted out of. I don't use messenger and I was thinking I was going to keep this from starting automaticly. I will update this just to clean up the event viewer. Thanks

Semper Fi

 

[PatrickH]

XP is hardly Windows2000

 

[Abzstrak]

Jesus F___ing christ

windows XP is a minor revision of windows 2000... ACCORDING TO MICROSOFT

first some theory -- real simple numbers here. 1.0 to 2.0 is a major revision, 1.0 to 1.1 is a minor revision

Windows NT4 was version 4.0 (duh)
Windows 2000 was NT version 5.0
Windows XP is version 5.1

dont believe me? call Microsoft and ask.

systeminfo in xp will tell U its 5.1 as well.

And XP having less than stable drivers does NOT mean its less stable than win2k, jus means it has more sucky drivers out there... thats NOT the OS, its a vendor problem.

 

[SemperFi]

Well abztrack if you would have read the thread you will find it was operator error on my part. I wasn't trying to imply it is a less stable os. I was implying that my system was less stable for me. After all this is why this forum is here, isn't it? To ask questions and help each other out.

Oh by the way I don't appreciate you poor choice of fill in the blank words. Would you mind editing your post?

Semper Fi

 

[Zlash]

Actually that is what you were implying by the title.

 

[SemperFi]

Yea you are probobly right. But for me the title was true. You know if you make the title too bland it sinks and never get answered. I have had many questions go unanswered and wanted to spice it up a little. I got some very good answers btw and thanks again to everyone.

Again I know that xp is 5.1 but the title still was true in my situation and found the expression unnecessecary. Not to mention the post was no help at all. All comments are welcome I just didn't find the opening language necessecary.

 

[Abzstrak]

sorry, I went off alittle, but I was not directing the comments toward you, but toward everyone saying XP is some big new version of windows that isn't proven yet, blah blah blah.

At any rate sorry if your offended, but thats just the way I talk when I'm getting annoyed at peoples uninformed comments. Also, the post was to tell everyone that xp really is a minor revisional upgrade over 2k...