I thought we had enough troops.. REPOST dmnit me..

Zanix

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http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=5834001&content_dir=ua_congressorg


Pending Draft Legislation Targeted for Spring 2005
The Draft will Start in June 2005

There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.


Does this sound kinda funny to anyone else?


College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.




Did a search and couldn't find anything posted about this.

I think this site is credible, and I don't want to go overseas. So ah... let's get the ATeffect going here. I think a majority of you all are in the range to get drafted... anybody want to start a petition/write a letter/run around in a circle shouting profanities?
 

Ness

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FOR SH!T'S SAKE THIS IS A REPOST TO HELL AND BACK.


NO, WE AREN'T GOING TO REINSTATE THE DRAFT.


Use your head before you let your fingers do the typing.
 
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i am sure.. kerry will kill those if elected....

As for draft.. i hate drafts.. i hate war... esp unprovoked war.
 

Cashmoney995

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God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.
 

glenn1

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If you believe this then you'd be too stupid to be drafted anyway. The military doesn't need a draft to find bodies, they already have enough to fill up to their Congressionally authorized force limits. The problem is that Congress has set the force limits too low, I think currently the army is capped at 450k personnel or so. Congress could easily raise authorized personnel strength to 600k or so in the army and not need a draft, heck they could double it and still not need a draft. You only need a draft when you're trying to get a few million bodies in uniform, not a few thousand.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: glenn1
If you believe this then you'd be too stupid to be drafted anyway. The military doesn't need a draft to find bodies, they already have enough to fill up to their Congressionally authorized force limits. The problem is that Congress has set the force limits too low, I think currently the army is capped at 450k personnel or so. Congress could easily raise authorized personnel strength to 600k or so in the army and not need a draft, heck they could double it and still not need a draft. You only need a draft when you're trying to get a few million bodies in uniform, not a few thousand.

:beer:

The draft should be reserved for a time of real national emergency. Just about anything else, we can handle with a professional volunteer army.
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: Ness
FOR SH!T'S SAKE THIS IS A REPOST TO HELL AND BACK.


NO, WE AREN'T GOING TO REINSTATE THE DRAFT.


Use your head before you let your fingers do the typing.



Ok ok... I searched for selective service and after reading more, found an old post. My apoligies to those who are bored.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Yes you fvcktard because Bush made those democrats introduce mandatory service legislation. It is a democratic ploy and unfortunately there are enough dumbasses like yourself to fall for it.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Go drink some bleach already kid. Let us know when you get out of High School.
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

rofl. hooray for the youth of today.
 

Cashmoney995

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Yes you fvcktard because Bush made those democrats introduce mandatory service legislation. It is a democratic ploy and unfortunately there are enough dumbasses like yourself to fall for it.



YET BUSH STARTED THE WAR F TARD! Regardless, American soldiers are dieing because of his idiocracy.
Anybody that has read any of his "funny quotes" has to wonder how we let him in there. I guess some people misunderestimated the power of the idiot at a voting booth. Bush screwed up Texas with his idiotic policies on education, and government spending also.

One thing a democrat never seems to do is make things worse. At least from the last two republican presidents we can see that Bush and Daddy Bush F'd the economy and started sh t with other countries.

House of Bush House of Saud also points out some very interesting connections between Bush and the Saudi's. If there was one country to blame for september 11th it would be Saudi Arabia yet we have completely forgotten about their play in the story. When we were thinking about going to Iraq there was one thing that was going through everyone's mind, except this supposed patriotism blocked us from saying it. Bush is trying to fix Daddy Bush's little mistake.

I may be in High School but that does not mean that I don't understand the cost of War. Two of my friends went into the Marines two years ago and unfortunately one was KIA and the other one was injured severly.
 

EMPshockwave82

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well when you treat your workers like crap, what happens... they unionize


when you treat your nations army like crap what happens.. they quit and get other carrears


all the selective service and the draft will do is make people who dont want to be in the military and place them in the military... if I was in the military i wouldnt want some punk kid who didnt want to be there in the first place with a gun behind me
 

Oakenfold

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Take it to Politics and news please if you want to flame bait a thread.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Yes you fvcktard because Bush made those democrats introduce mandatory service legislation. It is a democratic ploy and unfortunately there are enough dumbasses like yourself to fall for it.



YET BUSH STARTED THE WAR F TARD! Regardless, American soldiers are dieing because of his idiocracy.
Anybody that has read any of his "funny quotes" has to wonder how we let him in there. I guess some people misunderestimated the power of the idiot at a voting booth. Bush screwed up Texas with his idiotic policies on education, and government spending also.

One thing a democrat never seems to do is make things worse. At least from the last two republican presidents we can see that Bush and Daddy Bush F'd the economy and started sh t with other countries.

House of Bush House of Saud also points out some very interesting connections between Bush and the Saudi's. If there was one country to blame for september 11th it would be Saudi Arabia yet we have completely forgotten about their play in the story. When we were thinking about going to Iraq there was one thing that was going through everyone's mind, except this supposed patriotism blocked us from saying it. Bush is trying to fix Daddy Bush's little mistake.

I may be in High School but that does not mean that I don't understand the cost of War. Two of my friends went into the Marines two years ago and unfortunately one was KIA and the other one was injured severly.

That's what Marines do, they fight when and where ordered. Getting killed or injured is part of their job hazard, I'm sure they knew that.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Yes you fvcktard because Bush made those democrats introduce mandatory service legislation. It is a democratic ploy and unfortunately there are enough dumbasses like yourself to fall for it.



YET BUSH STARTED THE WAR F TARD! Regardless, American soldiers are dieing because of his idiocracy.
Anybody that has read any of his "funny quotes" has to wonder how we let him in there. I guess some people misunderestimated the power of the idiot at a voting booth. Bush screwed up Texas with his idiotic policies on education, and government spending also.

One thing a democrat never seems to do is make things worse. At least from the last two republican presidents we can see that Bush and Daddy Bush F'd the economy and started sh t with other countries.

House of Bush House of Saud also points out some very interesting connections between Bush and the Saudi's. If there was one country to blame for september 11th it would be Saudi Arabia yet we have completely forgotten about their play in the story. When we were thinking about going to Iraq there was one thing that was going through everyone's mind, except this supposed patriotism blocked us from saying it. Bush is trying to fix Daddy Bush's little mistake.

I may be in High School but that does not mean that I don't understand the cost of War. Two of my friends went into the Marines two years ago and unfortunately one was KIA and the other one was injured severly.


You sir are an idiot. Have you even taken a basic government and economics class yet?

And like Clinton didn't do anything to make the economy worse, or get involved with international conflicts? I guess Bosnia never happened? I guess my dad's best friend went over there in 1995 because he though it was a nice vacation spot? Democrats are the ones who want the draft, yet it's still Bush's fault if its instituted by Congress? And Lord have mercy on us if Kerry comes into office.

And I completely understand the hardships you've endured with your friends going into the military. 7 more of my friends enlisted this year, 3 are going into the Navy(1 attending Annapolis), 2 are going into the Air Force, 1 is going into the Army, and 1 is becoming a Marine. They know there's a possibility, especially with the current conflict going on, that they could possibly be shot at, injured, and or killed while serving their country. And that it's a very real possibility that they may have to kill. This is what every person should know and expect when serving in the Armed Forces.

No wonder everyone hates our generation. Because fvktards like yourself give us such a bad name.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: glenn1
If you believe this then you'd be too stupid to be drafted anyway. The military doesn't need a draft to find bodies, they already have enough to fill up to their Congressionally authorized force limits. The problem is that Congress has set the force limits too low, I think currently the army is capped at 450k personnel or so. Congress could easily raise authorized personnel strength to 600k or so in the army and not need a draft, heck they could double it and still not need a draft. You only need a draft when you're trying to get a few million bodies in uniform, not a few thousand.

So we can push military spending past 500 billion / year? Great!
 

ElFenix

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both of these bills have had no action done on them in more than a year. nice how the press conveniently fails to mention that. there is also no mention of when such a draft would happen in the bills. the press completely made up the timing thing.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

I am so sick and tired of you college morons who haven't a friggen clue of what's going on.

Before you post stupid ass comments like these, why don't you do a little research and find out who authored and sponsored those bills. You will just be a little surprised.
 

InverseOfNeo

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
God damn Bush. If I am going to college I am staying in College.

I hope Bush looses.

And if he wins, god help us all.

Anybody voting for Bush is following an idiot and is an idiot.

I would love to serve my country the problem is that the draft is completely irrevrent to your mental and physical capacity. You'r placement is where they need a body to fill the ranks.

Bush is killing Americans.
Bush is killing America.

Somebody get the moron the hell away from Washington.

Yes you fvcktard because Bush made those democrats introduce mandatory service legislation. It is a democratic ploy and unfortunately there are enough dumbasses like yourself to fall for it.



YET BUSH STARTED THE WAR F TARD! Regardless, American soldiers are dieing because of his idiocracy.
Anybody that has read any of his "funny quotes" has to wonder how we let him in there. I guess some people misunderestimated the power of the idiot at a voting booth. Bush screwed up Texas with his idiotic policies on education, and government spending also.

One thing a democrat never seems to do is make things worse. At least from the last two republican presidents we can see that Bush and Daddy Bush F'd the economy and started sh t with other countries.

House of Bush House of Saud also points out some very interesting connections between Bush and the Saudi's. If there was one country to blame for september 11th it would be Saudi Arabia yet we have completely forgotten about their play in the story. When we were thinking about going to Iraq there was one thing that was going through everyone's mind, except this supposed patriotism blocked us from saying it. Bush is trying to fix Daddy Bush's little mistake.

I may be in High School but that does not mean that I don't understand the cost of War. Two of my friends went into the Marines two years ago and unfortunately one was KIA and the other one was injured severly.


You sir are an idiot. Have you even taken a basic government and economics class yet?

And like Clinton didn't do anything to make the economy worse, or get involved with international conflicts? I guess Bosnia never happened? I guess my dad's best friend went over there in 1995 because he though it was a nice vacation spot? Democrats are the ones who want the draft, yet it's still Bush's fault if its instituted by Congress? And Lord have mercy on us if Kerry comes into office.

And I completely understand the hardships you've endured with your friends going into the military. 7 more of my friends enlisted this year, 3 are going into the Navy(1 attending Annapolis), 2 are going into the Air Force, 1 is going into the Army, and 1 is becoming a Marine. They know there's a possibility, especially with the current conflict going on, that they could possibly be shot at, injured, and or killed while serving their country. And that it's a very real possibility that they may have to kill. This is what every person should know and expect when serving in the Armed Forces.

No wonder everyone hates our generation. Because fvktards like yourself give us such a bad name.


Actually, Clinton was the best president by an economics perspective this nation has had in atleast 15-20 years. He didnt do anything to make the economy worse. Thats what you and other Republicans say about Clinton. "oh Bush is just trying to clean up Clinton's mess" But what mess are you talking about?!? He didnt leave any mess. Shrub and his father fvcked things up. And about the gas prices, they have been rising since Bush got into office. Coincidence? I think not with all of the ties he (and Cheney) has with the oil industry.