I think switching to RC5 is a bad idea ...

[MGallik]

I've reposted this from another thread.

IMHO, I also think it's a bad idea. The team spirit is great,
but dividing up our teams isn't the answer.

The DPC's are beating us by 900,000 to over a million blocks a day!
That would require 1100+ PIII 800's cracking 24/7 just to stay even.
The entire S@H team equals less than 350 PIII 800's. If the entire
S@H team went full time to RC5 all we could do is delay the inevitable
ascencion of the DPC's. Even that delay wouldn't be more than a few weeks.

Other factors to consider, as any stats junky is aware, 2/3's+ of any team
is made up of inactive members. Most people just dont stay involved for
any significent amount of time. If our S@H team is falling in the standings
we stand to lose members who are or would "ride a winner" or who simply lose
interest sooner because the team spirit is reduced. That equates to
potential WU production that will never be replaced.

Most of the people willing to help another effort are the hardest of our hardcore
crackers, myself included, who's loss would seriously undermine our day to day
production.

Lets assume the RC5 project continues for another year. In that time, we fall
drastically behind in S@H, now we have to play catch-up. Some of those who
even now fire us may not be involved in DC anymore, even so, they would need
to spend the next year cracking for S@H and may lose interest and drop out.

It happens all the time. Look at the new projects the are cropping up and
the proposed projects on the horizon. The desire to enter those new projects
may be to compelling for any realistic long term commitments.

The real answer lies in front page support, only from there can the numbers
required be gained. To end up with the 1200+ hardcore crackers would probably
take 5000+ new members sifting through the ranks that only Anand could supply.

We could, I believe, attract more members overall with a more general approach
to recruiting in the other forums. Get them into this forum and let them
choose a project based on the info we would supply in our day to day banterings.
Many new recruits state that they where won over by the enthusiasm and dedication
they observed right here in this forum.

 

[SSP]

I pledge my Atlon 650 or a P3 750 to Seti when RC5 is done (or when ever). I'm not too interested in OGR. Sometimes it takes way too long to finish a work unit.

 

[Jator]

Anyone see a wallet around here? I can't find mine.

Jay

 

[Assimilator1]

HB

Just 1 thing ref P2's ,they were not known as Katmai's ,P2's with the .25micron core(2v) 512k l2 cache were known as the Descheutes core(PII 266-450) ,earlier PII's 0.35 micron(2.8v) were known as the Klamath core(PII 233-300).Katamai 0.25micron(2v)(PIII 450-600)were essentially the same as the Desceutes but with SSE & a slightly different 'packaging'to improve cooling to the cpu & L2 cache chips.
Sorry about being picky

Anyway ,going waaaay OT!

 

[rc5]

If the currect SETI will end in a year, I guess there won't be any hope to find alien. The successive SETI projects shall last a few hundred years. It's a long long run apparently

 

[Sukhoi]

<< If all 150 odd active SETI people switched over to RC5, we would boost the effort by 20% or so. That's 200K blocks (say 300K blocks) per day. How much faster would that make the contest run? The offer to help once RC5 is done if the SETI folks help now will hurt SETI a lot and not really help RC5.

What RC5 needs is new members that are not doing any DC project at all. That is what DanC asked us to do, and that's what I spent 1/2 hour today trying to do (I have 2-3 very likely candidates). Recruiting from other projects is a zero sum game and should be avaoided. >>



I agree 100%. Assuming this SETI project is over in May like I've heard, unless the RC5 key is found in the next 3-4 months, there's no way we'll make up the ground we're going to loose in SETI.

 

[Hellburner]

Assimilator1, being an old man my memory for details that far back in history is a little fuzzy They have all been mostly the same since the P-Pro except for process size, L2 configuration and various multimedia hype/enhancements.

 

[JWMiddleton]

I watched all of this unfold on Monday. I think I was the only S@H'er that was on the Forum that day. I was a bit reluctant to say anything negative for two reasons: 1. I am relatively new to the group, and 2. The TeAm was just getting over some very emotional stuff from the day before. So, I am sorry that I did not jump on this and nip it in the bud. Instead, what I did was to offer help in the way of hardware. I offered a motherboard and 300a cpu that I sent to Narzy to help in the war with the DPC.

I had not heard from Michael, so I sent email to him alerting him to what was happening and the rest is well known.

As I read the messages above one thing still stands out: We have to recruit new blood for both teams! This is a process that can't let up or we slowly waste away.