I think I'm going to buy a Corvette

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Sulaco

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B...b...b...but!! The cheap plastic! The feel! I mean yeah, it's one of the best handling, most competent track cars out there, b-b-bu...the feel! And everyone owns one! Not like those ultra-rare, exclusive EVOs and S2000s! How will I EVER garner the respect of the Fast and the Furious crowd?? Would I EVER be able to wipe my mouth and look up at Jeremy Clarkson again?!?

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
 

madoka

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A laughable article at best. Sorry but Motor Trend is terribly biased in all of their reviews. You may think Mr. Pobst is the epitomy of car reviewers, but I don't see it.

I love how the internet is filled with guys who have never even sat in any of these cars and yet feel their judgement is superior to those of professional race car drivers and writers.
 

Zivic

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B...b...b...but!! The cheap plastic! The feel! I mean yeah, it's one of the best handling, most competent track cars out there, b-b-bu...the feel! And everyone owns one! Not like those ultra-rare, exclusive EVOs and S2000s! How will I EVER garner the respect of the Fast and the Furious crowd?? Would I EVER be able to wipe my mouth and look up at Jeremy Clarkson again?!?

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
I guess to the 15 year old that always dreamed of a corvette as being their dream car it is an exotic with the best performance .... to the rest of us that have grown up and realized there are other cars out there that offer a better experience. Some with better numbers, some with worse. Just a car that if some says... hey I bought a vette, I'd figure he isn't a car guy and bought an auto with the shiny wheels.
 

AdamK47

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I guess to the 15 year old that always dreamed of a corvette as being their dream car it is an exotic with the best performance .... to the rest of us that have grown up and realized there are other cars out there that offer a better experience. Some with better numbers, some with worse. Just a car that if some says... hey I bought a vette, I'd figure he isn't a car guy and bought an auto with the shiny wheels.

Ricers don't grow up.
 
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B...b...b...but!! The cheap plastic! The feel! I mean yeah, it's one of the best handling, most competent track cars out there, b-b-bu...the feel! And everyone owns one! Not like those ultra-rare, exclusive EVOs and S2000s! How will I EVER garner the respect of the Fast and the Furious crowd?? Would I EVER be able to wipe my mouth and look up at Jeremy Clarkson again?!?

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


For a driver's car that you sit in every day, these complaints about the interior are extremely valid. I can't believe the time and effort they put into the chassis, yet do nothing for the interior.

I wonder if they don't want the vette to compete with the cadillac xlr.


There are plenty of reasons to not own a vette other than the cheap plastic rattling interior, too many diehards try to act like if you want ANYTHING other than a vette that you must be an elitist asshole.
 

Elganja

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For a driver's car that you sit in every day, these complaints about the interior are extremely valid. I can't believe the time and effort they put into the chassis, yet do nothing for the interior.

I wonder if they don't want the vette to compete with the cadillac xlr.


There are plenty of reasons to not own a vette other than the cheap plastic rattling interior, too many diehards try to act like if you want ANYTHING other than a vette that you must be an elitist asshole.

I'm curious if you have ever owned one or driven one.

I had a 07 Z06 and it didn't have 1 single rattle. Believe me, I am very picky about random noises, they drive me insane... my car had none of them

Could the interior be better? Sure, but at the same time i liked the minimalistic look. As far as comfort goes, you really have no clue unless you have owned and driven one long distances. I drove mine 15 hours straight from Tampa to Virginia when I bought it. I didn't stop because there wasn't a point where my ass hurt, my back hurt, or I was uncomfortable in any way. I can't say the same about my 07 Acura TL, 02 Yukon Denali, or my 12 Acura TL (all in which my ass hurts after a few hours).

Anyways, the engineers focused on the chassis and drive line. You can't expect to have everything from the inside out for 75k (MSRP for the Z06 back then... they have gone up a little bit since then).

What I find funny, is that a lot of people who complain or knock down the C6 are people who really have no clue and probably never even driven one
 
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I'm curious if you have ever owned one or driven one.

I had a 07 Z06 and it didn't have 1 single rattle. Believe me, I am very picky about random noises, they drive me insane... my car had none of them

Could the interior be better? Sure, but at the same time i liked the minimalistic look and as far as comfort goes, you really have no clue unless you have owned and driven one long distances. I drove mine 15 hours straight from Tampa to Virginia when I bought it. I didn't stop because there wasn't a point where my ass hurt, my back hurt, or I was uncomfortable in any way. I can't say the same about my 07 Acura, 02 Denali, or my 12 Acura (all in which my ass hurts after a few hours).

The engineers focused on the chassis and drive line. You can't expect to have everything from the inside out for 75k (MSRP for the Z06 back then... they have gone up a little bit since then).

What I find funny, is that a lot of people who complain or knock down the C6 are people who really have no clue.

I have driven a c6 (~2009 non z06) for ~50 miles up in the mountains and been a passenger in a slightly older - maybe 06 c6, for a few hours.

The rattles weren't that terrible, really, but the overall 'cheap' feel of switches and buttons, and appearance of the inside is abysmal.

At $75k I definitely do feel like they could have done a MUCH better job without any increase in cost. My issue isn't with it being minimalistic either.
 

Elganja

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I have driven a c6 (~2009 non z06) for ~50 miles up in the mountains and been a passenger in a slightly older - maybe 06 c6, for a few hours.

The rattles weren't that terrible, really, but the overall 'cheap' feel of switches and buttons, and appearance of the inside is abysmal.

At $75k I definitely do feel like they could have done a MUCH better job without any increase in cost. My issue isn't with it being minimalistic either.

please do find me a car for 75k that equates to a C6 Z06 in chassis and performance (7:22.68 Nürburgring, 7:42.99 stock tires) while not having a "cheap" interior
 
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AdamK47

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It's supposed to be very hot today, but I think I'll take the Vette to work.
 
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please do find me a car for 75k that equates to a C6 Z06 in chassis and performance (7:22.68 Nürburgring, 7:42.99 stock tires) while not having a "cheap" interior


You serious? Just about every ~75k sports car is comparable in performance while having a much better interior. $75k is base 911 territory. Hell, my "cheap" z4 m has a much MUCH better quality and laid out interior than a c6 z06 and is very close in performance.

No doubt that it's the "budget sports car" leader, but some of you make out like there's flat out nothing wrong with the interior and there were no compromises....

The interior sucks. Yes, it's a fast car. Yes, it posts amazing tracktimes for its price, but they certainly could've spent some more design hours on the interior considering it's not generally used as a purist track car. I'm not wanting mink carpet and leather dash, just slightly better quality controls and more thought put into overall layout.
 

jlee

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You serious? Just about every ~75k sports car is comparable in performance while having a much better interior. $75k is base 911 territory. Hell, my "cheap" z4 m has a much MUCH better quality and laid out interior than a c6 z06 and is very close in performance.

No doubt that it's the "budget sports car" leader, but some of you make out like there's flat out nothing wrong with the interior and there were no compromises....

The interior sucks. Yes, it's a fast car. Yes, it posts amazing tracktimes for its price, but they certainly could've spent some more design hours on the interior considering it's not generally used as a purist track car. I'm not wanting mink carpet and leather dash, just slightly better quality controls and more thought put into overall layout.

To be fair, he did specify something with that 'ring time - from what I can find, the Z4M is north of 8 minutes. The 2012 Porsche Carrera S is 7:40 (at $96k).
 
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To be fair, he did specify something with that 'ring time - from what I can find, the Z4M is north of 8 minutes. The 2012 Porsche Carrera S is 7:40 (at $96k).


With stock tires they are within 20 seconds (I believe?) of each other. In an 8 minute lap time, 20 seconds is not much at all for a daily driver-type car, certainly (IMO) in the same league considering that the 'ring caters to high horsepower cars with its huge straights.

In other words, this track is not indicative of real world 'mountain' driving. Either way, there's an e46 m3 with sub 8 minute times, cts-v, lancers, older 911s which are well within the price range.

I'm not trying to 'dog' the vette as much as I am saying ok... it's a great car, fantastic power, handling, etc... Why not spend more time on the interior design? It's the one glaring flaw (and it is a glaring flaw...) that makes this much less of a daily driver than it otherwise would be.
 

JackBurton

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With stock tires they are within 20 seconds (I believe?) of each other. In an 8 minute lap time, 20 seconds is not much at all for a daily driver-type car, certainly (IMO) in the same league considering that the 'ring caters to high horsepower cars with its huge straights.

In other words, this track is not indicative of real world 'mountain' driving. Either way, there's an e46 m3 with sub 8 minute times, cts-v, lancers, older 911s which are well within the price range.

I'm not trying to 'dog' the vette as much as I am saying ok... it's a great car, fantastic power, handling, etc... Why not spend more time on the interior design? It's the one glaring flaw (and it is a glaring flaw...) that makes this much less of a daily driver than it otherwise would be.

GM said they focused on the interior on the new C7 Corvette, so you should see a big improvement on the next model.

As for the C6 and older, I do agree with you that the interior isn't great, but I wouldn't say it's horrible either.
 

Elganja

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With stock tires they are within 20 seconds (I believe?) of each other. In an 8 minute lap time, 20 seconds is not much at all for a daily driver-type car, certainly (IMO) in the same league considering that the 'ring caters to high horsepower cars with its huge straights.

In other words, this track is not indicative of real world 'mountain' driving. Either way, there's an e46 m3 with sub 8 minute times, cts-v, lancers, older 911s which are well within the price range.

I'm not trying to 'dog' the vette as much as I am saying ok... it's a great car, fantastic power, handling, etc... Why not spend more time on the interior design? It's the one glaring flaw (and it is a glaring flaw...) that makes this much less of a daily driver than it otherwise would be.

if you think 20 seconds is close AND the z4 is "very close in performance" (while being 30 seconds slower on the ring) then this debate is pointless.

fyi that M3 you are talking about 90k for the slower sub 8 and over 142k for the one that is 2 seconds faster then the slower one
 

Elganja

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GM said they focused on the interior on the new C7 Corvette, so you should see a big improvement on the next model.

As for the C6 and older, I do agree with you that the interior isn't great, but I wouldn't say it's horrible either.

and if people think the price is going to stay the same+inflation they will be in for a surprise. I bet it jumps up to near 100k for the z06 (so 10-20k jump) to be on par with the new viper
 

exdeath

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Corvettes suck, made of cheap plastic. I mean, a 200 lb guy can't even stand on the hood and jump up and down without it flexing. WTF is that all about?







:awe:

Funny but on a BMW or something it's called "advanced space age light weight composite polymers" but the same thing on an American car is "cheap plastic". :colbert:
 

AdamK47

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GM said they focused on the interior on the new C7 Corvette, so you should see a big improvement on the next model.

As for the C6 and older, I do agree with you that the interior isn't great, but I wouldn't say it's horrible either.

They'll find something else to hate on. Over and over and over and over...
 
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The way you guys get so defensive and personally offended over someone point out flaws in certain cars is ridiculous sometimes..

No one is saying the vette is a shitty car... This is the exact same as the IRS mustang crap, with the same hurt feelings.
 

NAC

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OP - I say get the car and enjoy it.

But, I also recommend you DEFINITELY budget for collision insurance. A corvette is not a pussy cat, it is not a Mazda 3. You are 23, and I'm sure you think you can handle 400hp and RWD better than any other human in your state. Or perhaps you think you'll have restraint and never actually use the 400hp. (Not sure why you'd want to buy it then.) Regardless of your self assessment - it is a formidable car, and you'll lose a substantial amount of $$$ if you get in an accident and don't have collision. So pay for the insurance. If you want, go for a high deductable, and you'll only be out 2k if you have an accident, and not 10k+.
 
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They'll find something else to hate on. Over and over and over and over...


Like what?

Personally, I don't care about the hood/bumpers caving or whatever.. This is something that's expected on a lightweight budget sports car.

I don't care about the actual materials of the interior either, it's the overall design and apparent total lack of thought that I have issues with.
 

AdamK47

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Like what?

Personally, I don't care about the hood/bumpers caving or whatever.. This is something that's expected on a lightweight budget sports car.

I don't care about the actual materials of the interior either, it's the overall design and apparent total lack of thought that I have issues with.

The stereo knob. Too nobby.