Originally posted by: dawza
Originally posted by: blackrain
There should be a failsafe for this. I'm not an engineer and don't know how easy or difficult it would be to implement something like that, but AMD and intel should really come up with something to prevent such situations. There's a lot of amateurs these days learning how to build their own rig. Every day there's a new post in here about someone building a pc. Things have really changed. And i'm sure the processor manufacturers recognize this.
I'm not saying that the OP is right...he certainly isn't. He shouldn't con his way out if his mistake.
What I am saying is that AMD and Intel are in a better position (than the average consumer) to prevent such mistakes that could damage the product. We're talking about processors here. Its a sophisticated product that requires care beyond what the average person would normally take.
Edit: yes it was a stupid mistake but lets not be so hard on this guy. I KNOW there are plenty that have made that mistake!
We are giving the OP a hard time not because he made a stupid mistake, but because his post gives the impression that he knew NOT to run the CPU without a heatsink, yet he went ahead and did so anyway (if this was simply an error made in carelessness, I apologize for my assumption). To make matters worse, he now plans to blatently lie to AMD's face and claim that any damage done was not a user, but rather, a manufacturer error (no assumptions here).
I agree that it would be nice if there were a failsafe mechanism where PC components never got damaged due to heat- however, I do not believe the manufacturers have a responsibility to absolutely ensure this- certainly, overheating due to lack of a heatsink (near-instantaneous) versus overheating due to inadequate cooling (more gradual) are very different things. Manufacturers should (and do) provide safeguards against the latter, as such could be the result of an improperly seated heatsink, overly high ambient temps, lack of case ventillation, defective processor, defective sensor, defective CPU fan, etc- all conditions which are not associated
solely with gross end user neglect. Running a processor sans heatsink is a different matter altogether- the end user forgot to attach the heatsink --> processor fries --> SOL- no question as to who the responsible party is.
The bulk of the responsibility with respect to properly using a (non-defective/well-manufactured) product should and must lie in the hands of the end user. As you stated, and I agree, building a PC is not something to be taken lightly. Carelessness, laziness, and idiocy do not mix well with expensive electronic hardware; unqualified individuals who choose to tinker irregardless, and then try to screw manufacturers with fraudulent RMAs only make it more expensive for everyone in the end.
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