I think I hate my major.. :(

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Maverick

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man they still expect people starting out to use VI? wow I thought that thing was only for the hardcore systems programmers of the old days :)

I personally hate VI with a passion. Gimme emacs or pico over VI any day. I'd rather rack my brain over the code than over the damn tool.
 

oLLie

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Originally posted by: Imported
Originally posted by: piku
I found out interning this summer that journalism blows. Now I'm completley clueless as to what I want to do... something like forensics facinates the hell out of me and would be a blast to do for a living, but the chemistry would eat me alive.

(edit: I just started college this semester)

Exactly! Forensics (is it related to criminolgy? If not, I meant forensics) fascinates the hell out of me too.. Maybe it's cause I'm watching too much CSI, but it sure in hell fascinates me more than computer engineering..

Ha! I just noticed your sig... woot go anteaters. Me, you and gr1ml0ck are all anteaters I see? *edit* oLLie is an ICS major.
 

dannybin1742

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major in biochemistry or biology and get a minor in CS and many research/biotech companies will pick you for bioinformatics- over 100k a year starting.


me.....i'm a biochemistry major
 
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You're not nailed down to your major in college. Everyone changes their major - it's all part of college - experimentation.
 

I think that they should create a mini-semester course or the professors should be obliged to make room to teach students how to use these 'tools' (e.g, pico, VI).

I remember many students having issues with the tool instead of the program coding. Even I had problems with the tool which held me back for a little while, despite my understanding of the coding. One would spend hours trying to get the gist of the tool because many professors didn't show how to use it. I'm always thankful that I was not a CS major. I remember how I was taking perl instead of engineering design and experimentation (statistics). However, the engineering statistics became a piece of cake because getting the tool for coding in perl became a headache. The professor didn't care to show how to use it and the student who was supposed to assist me couldn't. I wanted to be able to program at home, at the comfort of my PC. LOL! I was always grateful that I chose applied math over the noisy CS.

Imported, give it time. Many students dropped out of CS because it was too fast pace for them. For when they were learning to use the tools, the professors had already gone past the beginner's level. But I'm sure that if these students had given it a litte more time, they would have caught up eventually. The perplexing thing about courses like this is that things look so foreign to the brain and just too fast. But once you get the gist of it, it is so easy to accomplish. I know of a student who switched from Computer Engineering to Computer Science, which kind of surprised me. They're very similar in nature. Try to get access to pico or any similar tool and practice every day. The sad part about programming is that it takes much of one's time overall. Switching to other kinds of engineering that do not involve much programming isn't a bad idea if programming is the difficult part for you.

However, if it doesn't get easier, then do consider taking GE courses and advance GE. You will be amazed how much you may not have explored. I realised my love for logic and philosophy after trying some GE courses. So, explore GE courses that are likely to be useful. You can uncover what you are best at and what will still earn you the money you want or need to survive [in this world].

P.S.: I miraculously learned pico. It was my alternative to VI. *Sigh!!*
 

notfred

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I'd like to say "I told you so", but I never did specifically tell you so. However, I've been telling plenty of people for several years, DONT pick comp. sci. or comp. eng. because of: a) "it pays a lot" or b) "I like computers, quake is fun and I can overclock things".
 

Imported

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Originally posted by: notfred
I'd like to say "I told you so", but I never did specifically tell you so. However, I've been telling plenty of people for several years, DONT pick comp. sci. or comp. eng. because of: a) "it pays a lot" or b) "I like computers, quake is fun and I can overclock things".

Damn, you knew me pretty well by saying b.. :p

I could care less about the pay, as long as I enjoy what I do and it pays the bills.

I thought I'd enjoy CE.. guess not.

luvly, I'm probably suffering from the lack of knowing the tools. I understand the coding and stuff quite well..

Guess I'm going to have to talk to counselors tomorrow.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
For goodness sake don't pick a major based on projected salaries.

Yes, and join the hordes of fast-food industry employees worldwide. McDonald's wants YOU!

Seriously though, money shouldn't be the only consideration, but it should be one of them. See how far a communication or women's studies major will take you out of college.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
For goodness sake don't pick a major based on projected salaries.

Yes, and join the hordes of fast-food industry employees worldwide. McDonald's wants YOU!

Seriously though, money shouldn't be the only consideration, but it should be one of them. See how far a communication or women's studies major will take you out of college.

you could stay in college and be an academic
 

If the tool is the only problem, then don't give up too early. Try this: check the internet for help on using those tools. There are many resources on the internet. If you can get access to the 'tool' easily, then use that opportunity to experiment with it from examples or help given on the internet resources or books, if you prefer. They will show you step-by-step, or something, how to use the tools. You just need basic knowledge enough to get your code up and running. You don't need indepth information to accomplish this. So, consult with the internet. It would be an unfortunate situation to switch your major solely for that reason.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
For goodness sake don't pick a major based on projected salaries.

Yes, and join the hordes of fast-food industry employees worldwide. McDonald's wants YOU!

Seriously though, money shouldn't be the only consideration, but it should be one of them. See how far a communication or women's studies major will take you out of college.

you could stay in college and be an academic

Better hope for scholarships and/or a miracle to pay off those undergrad loans.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
For goodness sake don't pick a major based on projected salaries.

Yes, and join the hordes of fast-food industry employees worldwide. McDonald's wants YOU!

Seriously though, money shouldn't be the only consideration, but it should be one of them. See how far a communication or women's studies major will take you out of college.

you could stay in college and be an academic

Better hope for scholarships and/or a miracle to pay off those undergrad loans.

Why? If you are going academic you could just stay in school for life and pay the minimum on your undergrad loans.. minimum is like 25 bucks a month usually... then when you die they are pardoned... sounds like a plan to me
 

Imported

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Originally posted by: luvly
If the tool is the only problem, then don't give up too early. Try this: check the internet for help on using those tools. There are many resources on the internet. If you can get access to the 'tool' easily, then use that opportunity to experiment with it from examples or help given on the internet resources or books, if you prefer. They will show you step-by-step, or something, how to use the tools. You just need basic knowledge enough to get your code up and running. You don't need indepth information to accomplish this. So, consult with the internet. It would be an unfortunate situation to switch your major solely for that reason.

It's not just the tool.. I'm just finding a lack of interest.. :(
 

josphII

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if you have 30, 40, or 50k in student loan debt the minimum payment aint gonna be no $25 i can assure you

30k=$300/month
 

amdskip

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My major is computer science I think but I'm going the smart route by attending my local community college and just getting my 2 year degree there and then transferring. It may take me more than 2 years after I transfer, but it will be worth it I hope.
 

Shanteli

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As previously stated...do what u want to do....experiement....take all of the Gen Ed classes the 1st year while testing the waters in the field that you think u would like. And yeah picking a major based on projected majors is stupid. For example:

My friend is gonna graduate with Electrical Engineering in December and he hates it...like all of it. He wants to be an actor. Just this last semester he tried out a few acting classes and found out that he really liked it and was good at it. So he will probably end up ditching engineering, not applying for a job, and moving to LA to try to act (like a few thousand other people, but at least he will try)

Another friend of mine majored in Marketing & Entrepreneurship and he moved to LA to try to get into film. He is poor as fu@k but at least he had the balls to do it.

And I graduated in MIS cuz CE was way too much...but if I could do it all over again I would go into Sociology and Dance....who would have thought right? But too late now...so find what you like...very important.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
For goodness sake don't pick a major based on projected salaries.

Yes, and join the hordes of fast-food industry employees worldwide. McDonald's wants YOU!

Seriously though, money shouldn't be the only consideration, but it should be one of them. See how far a communication or women's studies major will take you out of college.

you could stay in college and be an academic

Better hope for scholarships and/or a miracle to pay off those undergrad loans.

at my school you can get a TAship and get free tuition + small stipend in return
 

Ameesh

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you should switch to some easy major like communications cause if your gonna be such a wuss and change your major after only 2 days of being in it you deserve to work at mcdonalds after you graduate.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
you should switch to some easy major like communications cause if your gonna be such a wuss and change your major after only 2 days of being in it you deserve to work at mcdonalds after you graduate.
If you spend 4 years learning to do something you hate, then 40 years doing something you hate, you deserve to die miserable.
 

Imported

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
you should switch to some easy major like communications cause if your gonna be such a wuss and change your major after only 2 days of being in it you deserve to work at mcdonalds after you graduate.

Right..
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I've already worked at places far better than McDonalds..

So you're saying I should spend 4 years learning something I'll probably hate, find not interesting, etc.. then get a job into that field which I'd find not interesting and ending up to hate it even more?
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And the only reason I'm in such a hurry is because I'd rather not fall behind on any classes I transfer over too.. :confused:
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Imported
Originally posted by: notfred
I'd like to say "I told you so", but I never did specifically tell you so. However, I've been telling plenty of people for several years, DONT pick comp. sci. or comp. eng. because of: a) "it pays a lot" or b) "I like computers, quake is fun and I can overclock things".

Damn, you knew me pretty well by saying b.. :p

You have no idea how many times I've seen that happen.