I swear if I hear one more grandiose incantation of the Tea Party I'm going to

[Acanthus]

I love how republicans take a page from obama with hopey changey rhetoric, and they fall for it.

It wouldn't be so epic if it wasn't just 2 years ago.

 

[JSt0rm]

I said it before

Neocons traded in their spandex and glam rock for flannel and grunge.

 

[hal2kilo]

I said it before

Neocons traded in their spandex and glam rock for flannel and grunge.

Huh?

 

[nick1985]

Ahh, so you're not a social conservative after all - your position on circumcision in the other thread had me fooled.

I was just trolling that thread :thumbsup:

 

[bfdd]

This 100%.

Until they split off they are just hijackers.

Yup, they'll probably split soon although I doubt before the current elections. Hopefully they'll split and be big enough to at least throw Ross Perots out there every now and then to shake things up.

Look at their backers to get a true picture of the hijacking that took place...Armey, Hannity, Koch brothers, etc. All former neocons.

No doubt, but I honestly don't care about that to much. In fact if all the neocons jump from Republicans Party to the Tea Party that would be great.

 

[nick1985]

Losing the Senate lol. O'Donnell fixed that for ya. Now that she's a, he, he, serious candidate, all her nutbag speaches are being spewed across the airwaves as I type. Good luck with that.

Add to that Nevada, should have been a shoe in for the Repugs, but the wingnuts got their primary candidate and it's neck and neck now. People in this country aren't as extreme as you think.

Notice how I said *possibly* the senate? Or did you miss that key word?

 

[zinfamous]

As the Tea Party and all good Americans celebrate the 223rd anniversary of The Constitution and moves this country back to it's principles we must all do our part to ensure the assault on liberty and institution of tyranny are fought and defeated. Now is the time patriots, ready yourself, your family, your friends for November 2, liberty's last stand.

so what do you do with yourself after the embarrassing, and inevitable losses?

 

[GroundedSailor]

bleh, no one got my joke.

Funny and insightful

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[SP33Demon]

I swear if I hear one more grandiose incantation of the Tea Party...

O'Donnell has your incantation...

 

[LumbergTech]

they dont realize they sound exactly like the people who thought obama was going to change everything

 

[GroundedSailor]

The Tea Party may have grand ideals but the execution of those ideals isnt possible in the real world..

I am a fiscal conservative in how I run my life and approach finances. I have been a member of the republican party as far back as 1979. The mainstream republican party has moved so far to the right of me-and many like me btw- that I am labeled a leftist socialist because I advocate for the poor and like programs that help the downtrodden get back on their feet.

I have asked this question of many so called tea partiers... Ok we get you want smaller government. So what substantive action will you take to make the government smaller? You can rail on bailouts and handouts to the poor and wealth redistribution but the facts are the majority of Tea partiers like social security. They like wars, they like 70-80 percent of what the actual federal government does for them. Talking about shutting down the government-joe miller- and talking about privatizing social security out in the open will be so unpopular they will get laughed out of Washington.

Remember Newts government shutdown?

Taxes are lower now than they have been since the 60s.... Has any tea partier acknowledged this fact?

They can rail about bailouts but the two biggest ones were reletively cheap and have almost been payed back in full-banks-automotive- and in a few cases actually made money.

If you look at the tea party its essentially the same as its been for the last 300 years... White people afraid that the world is changing too quickly around them. The southern strategy has stoked this fire and the fire always becomes more visible during an economic downturn.. The xenophobia and fear are but symptoms of the malaise of people being out of work and looking for a scapegoat...

We are in a paradigm shift from a majority of white people in the US to white people becoming the minority.. Within the next 30 years Latin Americans will outnumber white people in this country and they are terrified of this fact.

We can agree in principle we need to lower the deficits... So how does wanting tax cuts for rich people jibe with the fact that that tax cut will cost more than the stimulus when its all said and done with?

The tea party has already been userped by the social conservatives with their basic agenda to make everyone in their image.... How is that freedom?

Very well put.

Republicans have long played single issue cards very well and are now paying the price in the tea party which is very narrowly focused and has come to present ideals that a minority should have the right to control the lives of others in the name of their perverted morality and extreme agenda.

The party of freedom for all has become the party of of enslavement of many by the few.

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[shira]

I personally would LOVE a reduction of 20 - 30% of the federal budget. Why? Because pork has become prolific and many, many federal departments are superfluous to the well being of this nation. I would start with eliminating the Department of Education, a job for the States. In fact, many federal departments and programs, like environmental protection, usurp or duplicate state programs.

Social engineering at the cost of huge national debt is not feasible or effective. Keep a safety net going, like unemployment insurance and medal subsidies for basic needs, but it is time to turn away from the nanny state which has become so popular for keeping pols in office and their constituents more destitute in the end.

We need to reduce cost and tighten the belt of federal spending significantly. Prioritize national defense and infrastructure and get out of the business of private industry.

Why don't you tell us - specifically - where that "20 - 30%" reduction in the federal budget will come from. It's easy to say "pork is bad," but why don't you tell us specifically what you would eliminate and how much of a budget reduction you would accomplish.

Like most other know-nothing, right-wing fools, you're all slogans and no solutions.

 

[hal2kilo]

Meh. All that needs to be done is for the Tea Party candidates to talk. When Granny hears that they want to cancel Social Security and Medicare, she won't vote for them. When nonfundamentalists hear about their stances on religion in public schools, science, etc. They won't vote for them either.

And hating gay people and fretting over masturbation will really bring in that young people vote!

Nice wrap up/

 

[Hacp]

Since defense is one of the biggest cash cows of the budget and full of corruption and pork spending, and we have more planes, ships, etc. than all of rest of the world combined, Why is it that no one in the tea party talks about defense cuts? Only programs that benefit the poor or aged seem to get referred to as unnecessary.

Defense is 1/3. Social security and Medicare are the other 2/3. I say slash them all in half. Every year. Then void all government backed pensions. Finally repeal all laws favoring Unions. Only then can things come to a happy equilibrium.

Less government, more freedom! Patriots, gather up and show your support. We can win, we must win, we will win!

 

[manimal]

Defense is 1/3. Social security and Medicare are the other 2/3. I say slash them all in half. Every year. Then void all government backed pensions. Finally repeal all laws favoring Unions. Only then can things come to a happy equilibrium.

Less government, more freedom! Patriots, gather up and show your support. We can win, we must win, we will win!

If you look at poverty numbers for the last century or so every single category other than seniors has had a gradual or serious rise. Seniors have been protected by social security and for the most part agree that social security-something most of them payed into now for 40-60 years btw is great.

If you advocate for any reduction in social security benefits right now you hand the other side a big victory.

I can respect your libertarian position but the details of it are unsustainable in the sense that those millions of baby boomers when their health runs out and they retire would be on the street or dependant on social or local programs to survive. Shantytowns would grow, public unrest and crime would follow. All these problems will cost much more than their benefits would.

Is social security something that needs to be fixed? Yes, is throwing away the baby with the bathwater a good solution? Not even close...

Ask your parents or any family what they think about your solution.


Now your position on reducing military spending by one third I would be behind 100 percent...

 

[CaptnKirk]

Why don't you tell us - specifically - where that "20 - 30%" reduction in the federal budget will come from. It's easy to say "pork is bad," but why don't you tell us specifically what you would eliminate and how much of a budget reduction you would accomplish.

Like most other know-nothing, right-wing fools, you're all slogans and no solutions.

Simple - cut the Federal assistance to all of the parasite Southern States, those which are loaded up with simple minded
GOP supporters - the ones which receive much more from Federal Government support than they contribute.
South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana - even Texas, which has it's hand out for everything
while denying as much assistance to their citizens as possible, inorder to line the pockets of the ruling class GOP.

That's the base of the Southern Strategy, and home of the Tea Party.

I doubt that any open minded and progressive thinking moderates will side with the Extreme Right movement,
and that's where the financial cuts should start -against those who are gaming the system and causing the problems.

Some states, like California, do provide more than they take, but with the inbalance of power and a 66%+ requirement
for advancing policy, a minority of only 34% can terminate any advancement of that states financial process.
The GOP has effectivly killed the advancement of Califorina Politics, and they think they can further destroy it's progress,
and bring that same quenstional benefit to the rest of the country.

 

[umbrella39]

The difference between touting/supporting the Tea Party movement and worshipping Obama is the Tea Party is an idea. A movement with no defined leader. Obama is a man.

VAST difference.

Now, I have never posted about the Tea Party, nor do I consider myself a member. But for you to compare Obama worship to Tea Party followers is pretty damn silly. There is a VAST difference between worshiping a man and touting an idea.

Touting what idea exactly? That once a black man became president things that weren't important the previous 8 years now became important? Because the higher taxes/socialist crap is just that, thinly veiled bullshit. Who the hell are these people who worship Obama anyway? Most of us know he is just as inept as his predecessor just in VASTLY different ways.

 

[umbrella39]

I'm glad Liberals feel threatened by something for a change.

??? These are the same people who were called neocons a few short years ago... nothing has changed but their name. Keeping them out of power is not a liberal agenda. It's common sense.