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I swear i have the worst luck with cars.

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I have rather good luck. Paid for discounted Michelin PS2's and recieved Super Sports for less than Tire Rack's price (prior to shipping even).
 
Wow sorry dude. This is why I only buy used Japanese.

I usually only buy Ford and Honda. Up until this car the worst car i ever owned was a 3-4 yr old Honda accord. while i didn't have the issues as with this it was pretty damn close. While the dealership is paying for most of the repairs (i had to pay for the trans and o2 sensors) on the Honda i paid for everything but the brakes that went out before i even left the lot.

being around used cars all my life (My grandfather, father and I owned used car lots) I have seen every manufacturer have issues. Imports are not always better then local.
 
Wow sorry dude. This is why I only buy used Japanese.


That's like saying your brother's never used a condom before his whole life and he's STD free and never got a girl pregnant.

I had one too. It was a decent car, only major issue it had was it was rusting out and not worth the money to fix. And I know a few others with Tauruses of various years without much issue too (and I know a couple people that had more problems as well, as with any vehicle).

On the other hand, I know people who have had japanese cars without issue (my dad's Camry), and also know ones who have had nothing but trouble from them (my brother's Altima).

Many times it comes down to how well the vehicle was taken care of. Sure, some are just junk and break regardless of what you do (see: Dodge's transmissions in the mid-late 90s caravans, or Honda's glass transmissions on their V6 accords for so many years).
 
Got the car back! it drives great.

he said what he found was a wire harness to the MAF was melting so they replaced the wires. They drove it 3 days (put on about 500 miles)!

i drove it home and it was great. drove like a new car.

so for $3k i got:
new transmission
new o2 sensors
new fuel injectors
new MAF
tune up
oil change
and wires

oh and a rental (a feista and focus each 1 month) LOL i really hope this is it hehe


though someone did take my air freshner i got from yankee candle =(
 
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do they not have a computer to diagnose the car? 500 miles in 3 days is pretty extreme duty.

Personally, if I have a lingering intermittent issue that is hard to diagnose, I would prefer they take the time and fix it right. 500 miles, oh well. As you can tell, the guy getting the car back is happy that the car is fixed correctly.

And not every car problem is diagnosed by a computer.
 
oh boy. the SEGA ain't over!

i was driving Monday night up to Gymnastics and the check engine light came one again. ..

I took it in Tuesday morning and just got it back. The guy called and said the code was the o2sensor was bad..then changed his story real fast. eh said it was running lean witch means either the fact it has a hole in the exhaust (wich it does. was that way when we bought it) or the spark plugs are bad. He said it would be $120 to fix the plugs and not sure on the exhaust.

I hung up. then got to thinking. Part of the reason i got the car cheap was because the hole in the exhaust. I drove it for a while and the light never came on (hell i drove ti to Kentucky and back). it wasn't until after all this shit that it says its the exhaust or the plugs. I was thinking all the crap they have done to the engine (o2 sensor, maf) could have fucked them up.

I get the feeling they don't want to fix the issue. After they fucked up diagnosing the car and "fixing" things that didn't need fixed (grr paid a few hundred for the o2 sensors!) they wan't it out of the garage.

fuck it. it's time to find a new car heh.
 
Sounds like it's time to find a new mechanic, the car may be in pretty good shape it just needs some attention from a mechanic who knows what he's doing.
 
ehh plugs are dirt cheap to do yourself, and exhaust shouldn't be $$ either. Man I wish you had a decent independent mechanic to talk to.
 
ehh plugs are dirt cheap to do yourself, and exhaust shouldn't be $$ either. Man I wish you had a decent independent mechanic to talk to.

yeah i usually do plugs by myself. I haven't done them on a Taurus though. hate it when they put them in weird places.
 
yeah i usually do plugs by myself. I haven't done them on a Taurus though. hate it when they put them in weird places.

yeah some cars have them in retarded places. Some vans are like that too. Oh and an old Ford ranger I had one time had 8 spark plugs on a 2.3L i4, was so strange.
 
yeah some cars have them in retarded places. Some vans are like that too. Oh and an old Ford ranger I had one time had 8 spark plugs on a 2.3L i4, was so strange.

LOl yeah i had a old Ranger that was that way. The guy who sold it to me did his best to convince me it was really a 8 cylinder and not a 4. i walked off after telling him he was full of shit. eh pops the hood and says see! 8 spark plugs! i laughed and told him again he was full of shit and he lies one more time im leaving.

he finally stopped and sold it to me. when i got the title i showed him where it said 4 cylinder heh

ahh man i miss that truck.
 
Yeah sounds like the mechanic working on it has no clue how to diagnose a problem, they seem to be chasing their own tail. They need to start looking at live data rather than chasing codes. Although I'd be suspecting overall incompetence at this point since the problems seems to follow where they were last working.

First an o2 sensor is bad after dropping the tranny - more likely they trashed the o2 sensor in the process of getting the tranny out (iirc, the front section of exhaust has to be dropped on these,) not "They sometimes will do that after fixing a transmission." :\

Next is an issue with the MAF, which is going to be removed when dropping the tranny since it basically is sitting on top of it. They probably pinched the wire somewhere at some point, and probably threw the MAF aside to get it out of the way. I don't see otherwise how this stuff is suddenly magically no good, especially after they just got done messing with all of it.

Now they're on to injectors, luckily those are safe when dropping the trans. Unfortunately they decided one needed to be replaced and they must have some really shit luck at this point and once again, something they touched was bad, but of course "It wasn't our fault, we got a faulty injector!"

I guess at least the trans is shifting well?? Just seems like they're all over the place, and then bigger problems follow in the area they get their hands into.
 
LOl yeah i had a old Ranger that was that way. The guy who sold it to me did his best to convince me it was really a 8 cylinder and not a 4. i walked off after telling him he was full of shit. eh pops the hood and says see! 8 spark plugs! i laughed and told him again he was full of shit and he lies one more time im leaving.

he finally stopped and sold it to me. when i got the title i showed him where it said 4 cylinder heh

ahh man i miss that truck.


Sweet, I have a V16 then! 😉
 
Yeah sounds like the mechanic working on it has no clue how to diagnose a problem, they seem to be chasing their own tail. They need to start looking at live data rather than chasing codes. Although I'd be suspecting overall incompetence at this point since the problems seems to follow where they were last working.

First an o2 sensor is bad after dropping the tranny - more likely they trashed the o2 sensor in the process of getting the tranny out (iirc, the front section of exhaust has to be dropped on these,) not "They sometimes will do that after fixing a transmission." :\

Next is an issue with the MAF, which is going to be removed when dropping the tranny since it basically is sitting on top of it. They probably pinched the wire somewhere at some point, and probably threw the MAF aside to get it out of the way. I don't see otherwise how this stuff is suddenly magically no good, especially after they just got done messing with all of it.

Now they're on to injectors, luckily those are safe when dropping the trans. Unfortunately they decided one needed to be replaced and they must have some really shit luck at this point and once again, something they touched was bad, but of course "It wasn't our fault, we got a faulty injector!"

I guess at least the trans is shifting well?? Just seems like they're all over the place, and then bigger problems follow in the area they get their hands into.

last time i had it (its still sitting at the car lot. they said they would get a estimate how how much to fix the exhaust and plugs) it ran great. the shifting was smooth, no hesitation nothing. it ran like a new car. so i was rather surprised to get the lase check engine light.

So now for them to claim the exhaust (which they sold it to me with a hole in it) or plugs kinda worry me.

I have had the car roughly 9 months. 3 months of that time it has been sitting at the shop.
 
last time i had it (its still sitting at the car lot. they said they would get a estimate how how much to fix the exhaust and plugs) it ran great. the shifting was smooth, no hesitation nothing. it ran like a new car. so i was rather surprised to get the lase check engine light.

So now for them to claim the exhaust (which they sold it to me with a hole in it) or plugs kinda worry me.

I have had the car roughly 9 months. 3 months of that time it has been sitting at the shop.

Wondering if all those $3k sub-100k miles Sable/Taurus I see on Craigslist have the same problems...
 
picked up the car today. i talked with the guy in service. He said the engine light was a new code so they have fixed the orginal problem.

he said it would be $550 to fix the exhaust and knocked it down to $90 for the plugs. I again told him the hole in the exhuast has been there since i got it and with all the crap they did to the engine its likely they messed up the plugs.

on the way home i stopped at autozone and had them run the codes for me. They are the same fucking codes i took it in to start with.

The guy at the dealership said ohwell fix it myself and hung up.

so don't buy or have a car fixed at manning ford in Dekalb IL.
 
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