I surprised at how many people don't turn WEP on with their Wireless routers

[FuZoR]

Originally posted by: notfred
Mine is off. Go ahead, sit on my doorstep and hack me.

 

[CrazyDe1]

Why bother? I could care less if someone decides to surf on my connection...if they're gonna spend the effort to go through and find my network to surf on or to packet sniff go for it...I don't have anything all that interesting anyways..

 

[wyvrn]

Yes this has been posted 10 zillion times. Most people do not know how to setup WEP, or don't care. Free bandwidth for you, yippee skippee. I still don't understand why people get all excited about this

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

 

[AnMig]

can anyone comment if WEP slows down the network when playing games?

I am trying to troubleshoot my friends High ping despite being on DSL (100 ping)
I initially thought it might be the wireless usb nic (belkin) that I got him but I do remember turning WEP on.


Peace

 

[loup garou]

MAC filtering here...good enough for me.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

 

[Nyical]

Originally posted by: Rallispec

Originally posted by: redly1
so let me get this staight, if I don't have WEP activated, someone in range of my wireless network could access the files on my hard drive directly??

just your shared files, folders, and printers....

they would be stealing your bandwidth too.

Well one dead give away when someone is useing your connection, when your printer startes up and you see on the paper that just got printed telling you to turn on wep

 

[n0cmonkey]

authpf

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

And a 128bit WEP connection takes 8 hours of data to crack. Wireless is inherintly insecure.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

And a 128bit WEP connection takes 8 hours of data to crack. Wireless is inherintly insecure.

It can be secured though. Of course, many people are adverse to solutions that require more thinking than "Dlink or netgear." I personally like NASA's solution.

 

[Rallispec]

Originally posted by: AnMig
can anyone comment if WEP slows down the network when playing games?

I am trying to troubleshoot my friends High ping despite being on DSL (100 ping)
I initially thought it might be the wireless usb nic (belkin) that I got him but I do remember turning WEP on.


Peace

WEP will slow things down. Not sure how much it effects PINGS, but becuase all the data has to be encrypted, sent, and then decrypted, seems logical that pings would increase some.

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

And a 128bit WEP connection takes 8 hours of data to crack. Wireless is inherintly insecure.

It can be secured though. Of course, many people are adverse to solutions that require more thinking than "Dlink or netgear." I personally like NASA's solution.

What's NASA's solution?.....

 

[geno]

heh, I remember when WEP stoof for Windows Entertainment Pack fun ol' games, they were

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

And a 128bit WEP connection takes 8 hours of data to crack. Wireless is inherintly insecure.

It can be secured though. Of course, many people are adverse to solutions that require more thinking than "Dlink or netgear." I personally like NASA's solution.

What's NASA's solution?.....

white paper

 

[JetsFanatic]

Originally posted by: notfred
Mine is off. Go ahead, sit on my doorstep and hack me.

me too
me too

 

[maziwanka]

my wireless setup is in my house - i figure who's gonna be close enough to steal my connection, and if so, bravo.

 

[AnMig]

WEP will slow things down. Not sure how much it effects PINGS, but becuase all the data has to be encrypted, sent, and then decrypted, seems logical that pings would increase some.

thanks for input, at least it something else to try to do before ditching the wireless usb nic for a pci wireless nic.


peace

 

[thebestMAX]

Nothing Im woried about someone stealing on my systems but still use 128 encription.

I play games with it on and with my wireless print server and 2 other computers going also I notice no slowdown or increase in pings. YMMV.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: igowerf
I have mine off but MAC address filtering is on.

Same here... should be good enough right? I check my router every so often and don't see any foreign attached devices.

MAC addresses are easily spoofed.

And a 128bit WEP connection takes 8 hours of data to crack. Wireless is inherintly insecure.

It can be secured though. Of course, many people are adverse to solutions that require more thinking than "Dlink or netgear." I personally like NASA's solution.

What's NASA's solution?.....

white paper

LOL, as I was skimming through that I was thinking "Sounds like something I could set up on an OpenBSD box, using PF, isakmpd, etc...".
Then I got to this part:

Given the multiple functionalities and enhanced security required for this device, a PC running OpenBSD Unix was chosen

Maybe I should apply for a job at NASA, we seem to think alike

 

[Joemonkey]

ok so i'll ask again, does having the SSID broadcast turned off help? how could someone even know you had wifi going?

 

[PlatinumGold]

I prefer my USB Wireless adapter as it allows me to move the antenna around and get better reception.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
ok so i'll ask again, does having the SSID broadcast turned off help? how could someone even know you had wifi going?

If i remember correctly, even if SSID Broadcast is turned off, you can still obtain an IP address from a WAP that has DHCP Turned on.

It's better to turn of DHCP, Designate 5 or 6 IP addresses in a unique range like 192.168.35.86 to 92.

then set static ip addresses on each machine.

also, Use wep. i know several ATers really criticize WEP for how weak it is, but it's still better than nothing. the comparison i made in the other thread is to locking your car door, sure it's not much but it will slow down or stop the casual car thief / joy rider.

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
ok so i'll ask again, does having the SSID broadcast turned off help? how could someone even know you had wifi going?

If i remember correctly, even if SSID Broadcast is turned off, you can still obtain an IP address from a WAP that has DHCP Turned on.

It's better to turn of DHCP, Designate 5 or 6 IP addresses in a unique range like 192.168.35.86 to 92.

then set static ip addresses on each machine.

also, Use wep. i know several ATers really criticize WEP for how weak it is, but it's still better than nothing. the comparison i made in the other thread is to locking your car door, sure it's not much but it will slow down or stop the casual car thief / joy rider.

The good thing about WEP is that it prevents XP from automatically using your network. With WEP off, a user could be using the wrong network without even knowing it...

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
ok so i'll ask again, does having the SSID broadcast turned off help? how could someone even know you had wifi going?

I would say it helps tremendously, primarily because all the quasi-hackers using NetStumbler and friends wouldn't pick up your network. There are essentially two ways to locate a wlan: broadcast or probe. NetStumbler uses the former method to locate wlans. I'd bet that most of these people wanting to leach bandwidth haven't the interest/ability to get linux up and going for something like Kismet, which is what you'd need as it uses a probe.